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OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?
North America and Europe give you 10 armies combined. Asia only gives you 7. Suck it China.

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May 2, 2008

Bip Roberts posted:

Getting baked with pot.

poo poo yeah high fives dude!

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Fojar38 posted:

Turns out that controlling territory is more important than having shitloads of people when it comes to global influence

why should I care about influence on bumfuck nowhere spread out over several continetns when I have 1/5 of human life under complete dictatorial control in the place human life is thriving the most

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Modest Mao posted:

why should I care about influence on bumfuck nowhere empty land when I have 1/5 of human life under complete dictatorial control

Because the 1/5th of human life you have under complete dictatorial control is unproductive as gently caress and sheer human mass hasn't been particularly meaningful since the middle ages

also too many loving people in too small an area is actually a genuine problem

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

China wants to enforce a smoking ban.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38295628?ocid=socialflow_twitter

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Fojar38 posted:

Because the 1/5th of human life you have under complete dictatorial control is unproductive as gently caress and sheer human mass hasn't been particularly meaningful since the middle ages

banned for racism

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
lmao do you not get how ethno centric your world view is its like how white people 'discovered america' despite people already being there

"Chinese people haven't had a large impact on the statically small segment of human experience I personally exist in, therefore gently caress 'em they're worthless"

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

Indoors, nationwide? Good luck with that.

It can't even be enforced here, I went into sister ping's restaurant in NYC a few months ago and a bunch of dudes were smoking up the whole joint, they saw my white face and said in fuzhounese I was gonna call the cops then quickly snuffed the cigarettes out

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Modest Mao posted:

lmao do you not get how ethno centric your world view is its like how white people 'discovered america' despite people already being there

"Chinese people haven't had a large impact on the statically small segment of human experience I personally exist in, therefore gently caress 'em they're worthless"

tell me more about how you think chinese influence on the world is equal to western influence on the world

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
2nd ammendment rights show the devotion Americans feel to one of china's 4 great inventions

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Koramei posted:

2nd ammendment rights show the devotion Americans feel to one of china's 4 great inventions

:yeah:

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Koramei posted:

2nd ammendment rights show the devotion Americans feel to one of china's 4 great inventions

:drat:

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I think this whole argument can be summed up with one nice historical reality. China invented gunpowder but only used it to make fireworks to scare off ghosts. Chinggis Xaan looked at it and said "Yo we can use this to blow the hell out of stuff".

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Yorkshire Pudding posted:

I think this whole argument can be summed up with one nice historical reality. China invented gunpowder but only used it to make fireworks to scare off ghosts. Chinggis Xaan looked at it and said "Yo we can use this to blow the hell out of stuff".

And now we're overrun with ghosts. :(

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
turns out that having pretty much every imaginable natural resource, a genocidally-cleansed continent ready for a grassroots culture, and basically living on a geographical aircraft carrier makes you rich, powerful, and completely impregnable to attack

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Invisible Handjob posted:

poo poo, would have been cool. If you have any books that aren't primary sources that'd be cool too. I can read Chinese but not the crazy old stuff like would be in philosophy books
Yeah, I can't ready any of that poo poo worth a gently caress but he's a goddamn Confucian scholar at this point; dude is doing translations of a whole bunch of primary sources to Icelandic. Really cool guy.

And I'd make effortposts if I felt that I was up to the task really. I did decently well in his classes but I haven't kept up with developments in the field and it would get super academic and complex really quickly so I'd hesitate to bring it up even in the D&D thread, rather less here.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

I think this whole argument can be summed up with one nice historical reality. China invented gunpowder but only used it to make fireworks to scare off ghosts. Chinggis Xaan looked at it and said "Yo we can use this to blow the hell out of stuff".

I think this whole argument can be summed up with one nice smilie :sissies:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Modest Mao posted:

lmao do you not get how ethno centric your world view is its like how white people 'discovered america' despite people already being there

"Chinese people haven't had a large impact on the statically small segment of human experience I personally exist in, therefore gently caress 'em they're worthless"

If you want to to get pissy: 'China hasn't impacted on a statistically large number of cultures outside of those that border China, however other cultures have had a fairly significant impact on China.'

I think what you're saying is that never leaving your borders and out breeding everyone else means your culture is more significant. Right?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
China inspired the Wu Tang Clan, I don't think any good rappers have come from europe.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Taiwan might be #1, but the Wu is forever.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Modest Mao posted:

why should I care about influence on bumfuck nowhere spread out over several continetns when I have 1/5 of human life under complete dictatorial control in the place human life is thriving the most

Food for one.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Do chinese people even know about the Wu Tang? Do they like tour over there?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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bongwizzard posted:

Do chinese people even know about the Wu Tang? Do they like tour over there?

By definition most people don't know about secrets

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Anyway my Chinese teacher decided to phone it in last class and instead of drilling vocab he shared a bunch of poems from the Tang dynasty. I thought they were pretty cool and I look forward to exploring more of China's rich cultural heritage.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

By definition most people don't know about secrets

A billion people with their necks unprotected, what a shame.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
what culture has the highest influence to breeding ratio

is it the jews

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Modest Mao posted:

what culture has the highest influence to breeding ratio

is it the jews

it's europeans actually

europeans hosed everything both literally and figuratively

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Yeah, I can't ready any of that poo poo worth a gently caress but he's a goddamn Confucian scholar at this point; dude is doing translations of a whole bunch of primary sources to Icelandic. Really cool guy.

And I'd make effortposts if I felt that I was up to the task really. I did decently well in his classes but I haven't kept up with developments in the field and it would get super academic and complex really quickly so I'd hesitate to bring it up even in the D&D thread, rather less here.

yeah I don't blame you this thread is quickly heading towards the gas chamber

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Invisible Handjob posted:

yeah I don't blame you this thread is quickly heading towards the gas chamber

much like the nation state, the peoples republic of china

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Fojar38 posted:

it's europeans actually

europeans hosed everything both literally and figuratively
dont see how what you two just said is contradictory hohoho

I'd say it was us Icelanders because we have any influence at all and are so dang tiny

Invisible Handjob posted:

yeah I don't blame you this thread is quickly heading towards the gas chamber
Ehhh, it really is a more academics forum discussion

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Fojar38 posted:

much like the nation state, the peoples republic of china

O_O

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Ehhh, it really is a more academics forum discussion

I'll have to scout one out someday then, I've always been into philosophy, felt like I kind of hit a dead end with western philosophy and then some of the stuff I've been reading recently has been like a lightbulb turning on. just really cool. this is probably not the place for it though like you said

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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its not doing well and there is a decent chance it wont be around much longer

dunno what you were thinking

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
influence to breeding means you divide the influence by the breeding. Like if you have a lot of influence and a lot of breeding it's just as good as little influence and little breeding.

I did not propose this system, other posters merely stated that holding up and out breeding other cultures means your impacts are less important

so I am wondering then which culture's influence isn't diluted

half the world worships the jewish god but only like 6 million of them are jews themselves that's p good

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Modest Mao posted:

what culture has the highest influence to breeding ratio

is it the jews

I think ODB had like 15 kids or something like that.


EDIT: I checked, only 13.

bongwizzard fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Dec 13, 2016

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

bongwizzard posted:

A billion people with their necks unprotected, what a shame.

tcm aint nothing to gently caress with

https://a.cuntflaps.me/dliudm.mp4

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Modest Mao posted:

why should I care about influence on bumfuck nowhere spread out over several continetns when I have 1/5 of human life under complete dictatorial control in the place human life is thriving the most

Did you know that territory contains resources like gold and diamonds and oil that you can turn into money?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

big time bisexual posted:

tcm aint nothing to gently caress with

https://a.cuntflaps.me/dliudm.mp4

I watched for like two seconds but I really cannot handle seeing like an explosion of pus or a dude dying.

I just assume all internet videos are one of the two at this point.

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

bongwizzard posted:

I watched for like two seconds but I really cannot handle seeing like an explosion of pus or a dude dying.

I just assume all internet videos are one of the two at this point.

good call he died in an explosion of pus

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nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Modest Mao posted:

what culture has the highest influence to breeding ratio

is it the jews

jews are pound for pound the most influential ethnic/cultural group in the world, there isn't anyone anywhere close

not only do people "worship the jewish god" but the modern (europeanized) world is the world according to the abrahamic invention

the real jewish god is the confluence of anthropomorphism and resentment-morality that, in contact with greek humanism, made scientifism possible and reshaped everything

"westerners" want to believe they're more greek than "oriental" but the reverse is true; we are far more jewish than greek

the abrahamic invention is not only the premier invention in world history, it is probably the only genuine invention; everything else is more or less more of the same

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