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p dece There's modern remakes of its dedicated programmer too. Which are worth it imo.
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I love my jx-3p. The pg200 makes it easier to program but it's easy enough to use without one. Great synth.
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yeah that's a great find, grats
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ChocNitty posted:I don't know anything about synths. I have a Roland digital piano that I love, and i've had a lot of $200 yamaha and casio student keyboards, but I found this guy at a pawn shop for a couple hundred bucks, so I decided to get it, as at the very least, its a midi controller with a lot of octaves, for my garage band bullshit. Congrats! I keep seeing those for way-too-cheap and wishing I didn't have a JX-03. I think there are app versions of the programmer if you have a way to send midi from a phone, and there's a Kiwi audio mod that will add some extras (like, I believe, an extra envelope?) but its a couple hundred and involves sending away. Still worth keeping in mind.
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JamesKPolk posted:I think there are app versions of the programmer if you have a way to send midi from a phone It can't be programmed via midi without mods (the Kiwi job mentioned above). That's where the pg200 comes in- it's proprietary, not midi. Anyway, I have one too (no programmer either). How noisy is the chorus on yours? Mine's like a pure static generator, I can barely make out a chorus effect so I just turn it off.
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ChocNitty posted:I don't know anything about synths. I have a Roland digital piano that I love, and i've had a lot of $200 yamaha and casio student keyboards, but I found this guy at a pawn shop for a couple hundred bucks, so I decided to get it, as at the very least, its a midi controller with a lot of octaves, for my garage band bullshit. I think if it's your first foray out of Casioland you'll be pleased. Roland Junos and J-models are usually pretty solid in the sound department. You'll have some great new fat textures to mess with even if you just stick to the presets, but now you can also open Pandora's box with us and get programming your own patches. 
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Thanks to this thread I've just noticed the jx-3p pitch bend only works in one direction on the narrow setting. I either never used that setting before or it has recently gone kaput. Time to start chasing op-amps apparently.
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ozmunkeh posted:I love my jx-3p. The pg200 makes it easier to program but it's easy enough to use without one. Great synth. If one didn't want to drop the $200-$500 that a standalone PG200 sells for, aren't there also desktop software controllers available, or did I just imagine that? E:fb many times over. Of course it would require a hardware mod, the JX-3P predates MIDI 
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Super for-realsies: I want to build this system. Tell me what's wrong with it (besides a couple of modules not yet being generally available). https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/374050
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sliderule posted:Super for-realsies: I want to build this system. Tell me what's wrong with it (besides a couple of modules not yet being generally available). It costs $4,220.00
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Luckily, that's not a problem. 
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sliderule posted:Luckily, that's not a problem. In that case,
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But for real I keep hearing that you can never have enough VCAs, but I have relatively few. One pair of masters, the Scan & Pan for oscillator mixing and one attenuverting mixer. The distings can multiply two signals as well so there are two more, but I get the feeling it's still too few. I can imagine that I have enough for the audio paths, but maybe not for CVs.
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Yeah I would deffo suggest a dense VCA module, something like the sputnik valve multiplier or erica's pico vca or ladik's similar tiny jobbers 
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Given that the rack's full, what would you pull to fit more VCAs? I get that I can effectively emulate the wogglebug with the teletype (sans audio oscillators), so maybe that can go? I'd hate to lose clouds, and distings seem really good value for real estate.
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no no no no no. im building a perfect synth you see and it's only thiiiiis big *gestures 84hp x 2 to my wife* really it's not that big or messy and it has a lid that i can close and it's perfect and i'll never replace anything in it
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Electric Bugaloo posted:If one didn't want to drop the $200-$500 that a standalone PG200 sells for, aren't there also desktop software controllers available, or did I just imagine that? The JX-3P has very basic MIDI but the deal is that you can't use MIDI and the programmer simultaneously. There is a mod that adds this and also improves the MIDI capability of the synth. Details here: http://organix.inque.org/ I don't have it, it's on my "when I get around to it" list.
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sliderule posted:no no no no no. im building a perfect synth you see and it's only thiiiiis big  honestly I'd dump the z-dsp. I think it makes sense in a large system especially if you want to stay in the modular for fx but nothing I've heard from it has ever wowed me vs dedicated FX units. That and you're already getting some fx from disting/clouds.
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this. it's also really big and you're giving up a lot by including it in a system that small. e: also consider the SSF ultra random analog instead of the wogglebug. it's the same size but packs in a lot of extra utility. Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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So, after unsuccessfully trying to jam more by sticking to my existing equipment, some gift money has landed in my pocket and is slowly burning a hole in it. The one big thing I need to do is play more, and I never bought a real good analog monosynth. My range is up to about $700 max. The ones I'm considering are the Korg ARP Odyssey module, Novation Bass Station II, and Korg Monologue. I'm kinda torn because while the Odyssey is the best sounding by far and funkiest by far, the other two have patch memory, despite being a little more sterile. I'm kinda steering away from the brutes , just not the biggest fan of their sound. Kinda the same for the MS-20, tried the mini and did not like it much, but then again I didn't get to play with patch cables. Any other suggestions?
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Startyde posted:honestly I'd dump the z-dsp. I think it makes sense in a large system especially if you want to stay in the modular for fx but nothing I've heard from it has ever wowed me vs dedicated FX units. That and you're already getting some fx from disting/clouds. Yes the Z-DSP would be the first thing I would remove, especially if you mostly want it for the Valhalla verbs, since you can just go spend $200 on his plugins instead and get dozens of algorithms in better quality. Or just spend $50 on your favorite one. But if you hate computers then whatever.
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Normally I'm wary of kickstarters, but KOMA is an established brand so here goes: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/komaelektronik/field-kit-electroacoustic-workstation Looks like a nice little experimental platform.
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AxeBreaker posted:So, after unsuccessfully trying to jam more by sticking to my existing equipment, some gift money has landed in my pocket and is slowly burning a hole in it. The one big thing I need to do is play more, and I never bought a real good analog monosynth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvG__N0Q0o8.
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AxeBreaker posted:So, after unsuccessfully trying to jam more by sticking to my existing equipment, some gift money has landed in my pocket and is slowly burning a hole in it. The one big thing I need to do is play more, and I never bought a real good analog monosynth. I'm wondering something similar - with the caveat that I have some bases covered. We may be looking in different directions but if it helps... I've got the loud, noisy, distorted, modulated sound thing covered well but I'm missing bread and butter bass and lead tones - I'm thinking rubbery portamento and arpeggios, and maybe some Warp-ish stuff with reverb. Basically if SH-101s were 500 dollars cheaper I'd be looking there. Ideas: Intellijel Atlantis: I like the differences enough to make them bonuses, and the patch points are very nice. The problem is I'm not in euro and it's $$$ by the time I get there just for the Atlantis (though I'd have NO problem expanding to fill 84 or 90hp once I had a case and power sorted) Mother-32: Similar appeal without NEEDING the rack, and I don't currently have a Moog filter in my palette. I'm not sure I prefer it to the Roland ones though... (But I have a F-106 module if need be). Vermona Mono Lancet: The above without the patch accessibility (until I get that euro system), but with a more appealing knob layout. Feels more immediately satisfying than the Mother, with less depth. The filter sounds slightly better but that could be subjective w/ like video white balance. Eowave Magma: It's a currently produced SH-101 clone module? That's about all I can find other than "inspired by the... 80s!" Arp Odyssey: I like the features but from the demos the sound feels thinner and brassier than I want - the stuff I'm not loving with my Evolver. I feel like I'd spend more time with the modulation options than writing melodies. Bass Station II: Gets mentioned a lot but I haven't been wowed by a demo (I may not be listening to the right ones). I'd like to avoid a keyboard if possible. AIRA System 1/1m + Plugout: I'm fine with the VA but the neon green is a dealbreaker. It's dumb but that's where I'm at. Future Retro XS: Big and I'd prefer a 24db filter but it seems pretty close... though if I could do cheaper I'd prefer. And other than that... what perfect synth am I forgetting that's going to scratch that exact itch?
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People posted:drop the Z-DSP Yeah I guess that all makes sense. I was hoping to splash some reverb on in the case; it's part of what makes the Music Easel sound so good I think. Halls of Valhalla would have been icing on the cake, but I do have a Lexicon unit in the rack, so I guess as long as I'm at home with it, I don't need DSP FX. Also, as mentioned, I have Clouds. Good points. I'm looking at a 10hp hole now after adding a Sputnik Valve Multiplier (which looks amazing for the space!) and an O'Tool (because scopes are rad). Maybe a 4ms QCD to add some tactile adjustment to the algorithmic input triggers? Maybe a chronoblob or a spring reverb? I'll give it some thought. Mr. Glass posted:e: also consider the SSF ultra random analog instead of the wogglebug. it's the same size but packs in a lot of extra utility. Oh hey that's quite nice. Thank you all for your feedback.
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Warps with the parasites mod is a fun use of 10HP.
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AxeBreaker posted:So, after unsuccessfully trying to jam more by sticking to my existing equipment, some gift money has landed in my pocket and is slowly burning a hole in it. The one big thing I need to do is play more, and I never bought a real good analog monosynth. Buy a Roland SH-09 on ebay or reverb.
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JamesKPolk posted:I'm wondering something similar - with the caveat that I have some bases covered. We may be looking in different directions but if it helps... Buy a Roland SH-09 on ebay or reverb. Amazing sounding monosyth, they basically cut down the quality and made it into the SH-101. Sounds better than a 101, you can still get them for like $500 which is the craziest steal in the gear world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMopRfAdEQ
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Buy a Roland SH-09 on ebay or reverb. Amazing sounding monosyth, they basically cut down the quality and made it into the SH-101. Sounds better than a 101, you can still get them for like $500 which is the craziest steal in the gear world. Wow yeah what the hell? I figured they were like 1.5k plus and didn't even look. Guessing it's the lack of arp/sequencer, which is just fine for me. Sounds like the Audio In does some cool env follower things too.
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Yarbald posted:Help me guys, I just bought a Pittsburgh Modular Foundations 3.1, I have no idea what I'm doing but it's so much fun! i have a spare pressure points, if thats any help
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sliderule posted:But for real I keep hearing that you can never have enough VCAs, but I have relatively few. One pair of masters, the Scan & Pan for oscillator mixing and one attenuverting mixer. The distings can multiply two signals as well so there are two more, but I get the feeling it's still too few. you need more attenuators, more mixers, and maybe more vcas. not too up on the monome thing but isnt ansible replacing most of their modules in fewer hp? clouds and wogglebug are the only two modules i got rid of completely (keeping 1 pp) , clouds makes nice sounds just not for the way i play, and i found the wogglebug way less rewarding than something less prepatched like the sport modulator. its cool but it alone would eat most of your attenuation if you wanted it to, something like a triat and a mutable kinks might help this setup a bit more imo
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eventide would like your money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCEo65dGlg8&t=187s
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magiccarpet posted:eventide would like your money Space is so loving good
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dj bobby bieber posted:Space is so loving good I have the H9, but 90% of the time it's set to their various space algorithms.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:you need more attenuators, more mixers, and maybe more vcas. not too up on the monome thing but isnt ansible replacing most of their modules in fewer hp? Yeah, fewer HP but no interactive terminal. Teletype means I don't need a computer nearby. mrbradlymrmartin posted:clouds and wogglebug are the only two modules i got rid of completely (keeping 1 pp) , clouds makes nice sounds just not for the way i play, and i found the wogglebug way less rewarding than something less prepatched like the sport modulator. its cool but it alone would eat most of your attenuation if you wanted it to, something like a triat and a mutable kinks might help this setup a bit more imo I swapped out wogglebug for a SSF Ultra-Random Analog so I hear that call. Thanks for calling my attention to mixing and attenuation. After reading your posts I thought a bit about some patches I would make, and I can start to see how these would be useful/necessary. Mutable Kinks doesn't look attractive to me: what can I do with it that I wouldn't do with a Disting, and how often would I do them?
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sliderule posted:Thanks for calling my attention to mixing and attenuation. After reading your posts I thought a bit about some patches I would make, and I can start to see how these would be useful/necessary. maybe you should get an lxd? you can use it with maths inner channels to get resonance, bp, and hp responses. or maybe a self oscillating filter to feed the wavefolder on the shapeshifter some time?
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:maybe you should get an lxd? you can use it with maths inner channels to get resonance, bp, and hp responses. or maybe a self oscillating filter to feed the wavefolder on the shapeshifter some time? You mean putting a self-oscillating filter in feedback with the wavefolder? Morpheus should be able to cover resonant filters, though. I'm sure there are a few self oscillating configurations. Also how do you manipulate the LxD response? I've never touched an LPG, what am I missing?
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FYI: if you are in the US and you've got a Verbos module you were considering sending in for repair, do it now. They are closing their NY office and moving to Berlin on the 23rd.
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Has anyone seen a video of the TB-03 connected to and being controlled by a K-25m? I'm curious to know if and how the two interact, but all of the TB-03 videos I can find are just standalone demos. 
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