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Work Friend Keven posted:That would be dumb, just like another guy I know. He's the village ninja dunce who only got anywhere thanks to his hard work, but also his parents were super good famous ninjas. His name? Naruto. i actually wanted to bring up goku's dad who also happened to be the one not-dickhead saiyan and also happened to fight frieza and also happened to be a super saiyan and didn't bleach do this too?
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bleach took it to super idiotic levels where the mc had every variable set of powers because of his mengele-genetics
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Work Friend Keven posted:That would be dumb, just like another guy I know. He's the village ninja dunce who only got anywhere thanks to his hard work, but also his parents were super good famous ninjas. His name? Naruto. Thank you for doing this. I considered it, but was too lazy to do it. Good job. 
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Brother Entropy posted:i actually wanted to bring up goku's dad who also happened to be the one not-dickhead saiyan and also happened to fight frieza and also happened to be a super saiyan bleach gave ichigo all of the powers forever but it was never a plotpoint that he was just a normal guy overcoming his situation. he was always special from the first issue actually if deku's dad is all for one, that would be a case of even worse writing than bleach because they at least foreshadowed that poo poo in bleach 
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I feel like the shounen ideal is for the protagonist to be special, but not too special. Like, it's fun if he has some ability no one else has, but it's not fun if that ability lets him easily trounce everyone he encounters (see: 99% of web novels). MHA is a good example of this - main character is special by virtue of having attracted the attention of the most famous hero and being given his power, but the power comes with its own set of challenges that don't render it disproportionately ridiculous.
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Brother Entropy posted:i actually wanted to bring up goku's dad who also happened to be the one not-dickhead saiyan and also happened to fight frieza and also happened to be a super saiyan Hey man, that's just confusing facts with fiction. Bardock never became a Super Saiyan and was a gigantic jerk just like the rest of the Saiyan Race, dude commited genocide on a daily basis as his job. He just happened to not want to see his own race genocided, and failed utterly at it. Everything else in Dragon Ball about Bardock is non-canon and should be treated as such. Yes, even the parts Toriyama made. Minus is terrible. Also I'm entirely sure Deku's parents are super normal for the setting. His dad's quirk was low-level pyrokinesis, that's straight from Inko's mouth.
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Bardock never really fought him either, Frieza didn't have to leave his little car to kill him.
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tap my mountain posted:Bardock never really fought him either, Frieza didn't have to leave his little car to kill him. in fairness i've never actually watched the bardock stuff i just kinda absorbed it secondhand from games or wherever else but it all sounded really dumb
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bardock being the first super saiyan and actually a nice family man is canon, for whatever that means in dragon ball. also goku's childhood was retconned and he wasn't an rear end in a top hat that needed to be brained by a rock to chill out after all that stuff is lame and worse than the original stuff tho, plus it's just in side stuff anyway so you can just ignore it if you want
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Hopeford posted:That said, it would make no thematic sense or anything. They've been pushing how similar Midoriya and Shigaraki are for 50+ chapters now. They're mirrors of each other. And Shigaraki is related to One for All. There's also this: 
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i want to ignore bardock but i'm playing db fusions and he's my strongest unit rn so he's on my brain alot until i get someone to replace him
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Vengarr posted:They've been pushing how similar Midoriya and Shigaraki are for 50+ chapters now. They're mirrors of each other. And Shigaraki is related to One for All. If it's a mirror, then wouldn't Deku be AFO's grandson and his dad still just a normal dude? I personally don't think we'll get much about Deku's dad beyond maybe some stuff about him a pretty heroic person himself. Like, not an actual hero or anything but the type of guy who goes out of his way to help people or something.
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If you've got a super duper powerful quirk, and quirks can be passed on, with possible variation, to your children, and you can steal quirks from people, and you are really just extremely evil. Yes, You have children, you have as many as you can, you take any useful power they might have been born with, and you abandon the garbage kids. And then All-Might pounds your face into mush bringing your hosed up breeding program to an end. Midoriya is probably All for Ones kid. But he was probably a reject.
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Deku's dad is Ochako. The clues are all there
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Deku's father was Ochako's dad's business partner. He was killed by shoddy building practices which have harmed the company's reputation to this day, and the post-All for One story involves the heroes establishing a Japanese Super-OSHA. The plot twist is that Deku's dad was the one that cut the corners in the first place.
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Dec 13, 2016 00:00
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Deku's dad is Sasuke, and also the traitor.
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Dec 13, 2016 00:03
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it'd explain why he's never around at least
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NecroMonster posted:If you've got a super duper powerful quirk, and quirks can be passed on, with possible variation, to your children, and you can steal quirks from people, and you are really just extremely evil. I dunno, Midoriya's mom doesn't seem like the type of woman who would go for a tool like All for One.
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Deku's dad is Darth Vader.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Deku's dad is Darth Vader. NOOOOOOO!
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Vengarr posted:They've been pushing how similar Midoriya and Shigaraki are for 50+ chapters now. They're mirrors of each other. And Shigaraki is related to One for All. Shigaraki is related to OfA in the same sense Deku is related to All Might: He was chosen as a pupil because he had something that attracted his mentor to him. In Shigaraki's case, it was his relationship with All Might's predecessor.
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Deku is adopted and his real parents are quirkless nobodies who died
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Brother Entropy posted:i actually wanted to bring up goku's dad who also happened to be the one not-dickhead saiyan and also happened to fight frieza and also happened to be a super saiyan Being special and important chosen ones from a line of chosen ones is a common trait among all young adult protagonists, manga or otherwise. Naruto is just funny because he's explicitly set up as not that, but rather a hated outcast with no special skills other than determination, who then turns out to be village royalty with special unique superpowers.
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Dec 13, 2016 03:56
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If Mineta got One For All, he'd be called "Ball Might"
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Uraraka would be "Y'all Might".
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Mina would be "All Right!"
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If Bakugo got it, he'd be Dyna-Might.
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Cero would be 3Might.
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Shouji would be Tentac-All Might.
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Tokoyami would be All Night.
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Hagakure would be Out of Sight.
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Mineta is definitely Balls Might. e: gently caress
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Jiro would be Sounds All Right. .... The Uncharted 4 LP thread broke me.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Jiro would be Sounds All Right. accept the wordplay into your life and become punstoppable
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i banish you all to another world with a wave of my omnipotent hand
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Mt. Lady... Tall Might.
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Aoyama would be All Light.
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super saiyan bardock is non-canon as fuuuuuck
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Momo would be Mall Might.
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Manatee Cannon posted:bardock being the first super saiyan and actually a nice family man is canon, for whatever that means in dragon ball. I mean, you are right about the rest, but Story of Bardock is part of Dragon Ball Heroes, a card game that does ridiculous stuff like make Super Saiyan 4 Broly, not part of the main universe storyline.
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