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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



Blowfish with tits.

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EgonSpengler
Jun 7, 2000
Forum Veteran

Ola posted:

I realize this thread isn't post the mattest wraps u got, but :holymoley:



Do they have a wrap that fixes the misalignment on the rear doors?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

EgonSpengler posted:

Do they have a wrap that fixes the misalignment on the rear doors?

Yes, you get to rap battle with the service managers.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
I personally think that matte wraps kinda look like garbage. :shrug: I'm not into the video game car look. Must be really hard to clean, too

The farthest I'd be willing to go would be like a satin chrome kind of effect, like liquid metal. Otherwise just stick with regular gloss/metallic why not

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

I saw a dirty matte wrap yesterday, it did look really loving dirty. But still good IMO. Maybe it's just because it's different and I'll get over it after a while.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Ola posted:

Yes, you get to rap battle with the service managers.

Step on the brakes
Now step on the gas

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

The way Chevrolet is handling the Bolt launch is like a cute girl that doesn't know she's good looking, treats all her potential suitors like poo poo, and then bitches about how lonely she is.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



MrYenko posted:

The way Chevrolet is handling the Bolt launch is like a cute girl that doesn't know she's good looking, treats all her potential suitors like poo poo, and then bitches about how lonely she is.

m'lady

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
M’PG

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

MrYenko posted:

The way Chevrolet is handling the Bolt launch is like a cute girl that doesn't know she's good looking, treats all her potential suitors like poo poo, and then bitches about how lonely she is.

uhhhhh

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

MrYenko posted:

The way Chevrolet is handling the Bolt launch is like a cute girl that doesn't know she's good looking, treats all her potential suitors like poo poo, and then bitches about how lonely she is.

I'm curious, what metaphors did you reject in favour of that one?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


MrYenko posted:

The way Chevrolet is handling the Bolt launch is like a cute girl that doesn't know she's good looking, treats all her potential suitors like poo poo, and then bitches about how lonely she is.

They lose money on every car sold, and need 14% of their cars sold in california to be zero emissions vehicles so they don't have to buy credits.

Once they sell around 8000 in california, they'll let them trickle out to the rest of the country. They were aiming for around 60,000 a year.

They also used over 100,000 federal tax credits on volt sales, so by the middle of next year, the $7,500 tax credit will start halving every 2 quarters.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
I'm seeing more and more Model Xs around here and I've grown to *really* like the grill-less look that Tesla went with. I thought it was ugly at first but now I think it looks really good.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Subjunctive posted:

I'm curious, what metaphors did you reject in favour of that one?

I was shooting for most triggering. Looks like I succeeded.

Unlike GM.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Sure. "It was a prank!"

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Powershift posted:

They also used over 100,000 federal tax credits on volt sales

In it, Voted 5, though I wish the heater was 5x stronger.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

KakerMix posted:

I'm seeing more and more Model Xs around here and I've grown to *really* like the grill-less look that Tesla went with. I thought it was ugly at first but now I think it looks really good.

Yeah, I didn't like it on the X, and was disappointed that I was going to get it on my replacement S, but I've really come around.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Porsche has made one of those silly scrolly sites (which I believe is the correct web design term) about the Mission-E. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/mission-e/international.aspx

The ride height alone eliminates it from being very usable for rural or mountain destinations. It's more of a Star Trek captain's home leave GT. Looks great.

HFX
Nov 29, 2004

Ola posted:

Porsche has made one of those silly scrolly sites (which I believe is the correct web design term) about the Mission-E. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/mission-e/international.aspx

The ride height alone eliminates it from being very usable for rural or mountain destinations. It's more of a Star Trek captain's home leave GT. Looks great.

Wouldn't be very usable on many urban streets either.

I am actually a little surprised at the suicide rear doors. I wonder if it would actually make it to production with them considering the drawbacks.

roomforthetuna
Mar 22, 2005

I don't need to know anything about virii! My CUSTOM PROGRAM keeps me protected! It's not like they'll try to come in through the Internet or something!

Ola posted:

Porsche has made one of those silly scrolly sites (which I believe is the correct web design term) about the Mission-E. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/mission-e/international.aspx

The ride height alone eliminates it from being very usable for rural or mountain destinations. It's more of a Star Trek captain's home leave GT. Looks great.
"So the future of the sports car looks highly promising. You might even say electrifying."

I hope that writer got a bonus for that amazing zinger!

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
It's been three weeks since I ordered a chargepoint, and blink cards. Still nothing :(

Edit: speak of the devil, I get home and my ChargePoint card is waiting for me on the table :)

blugu64 fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Dec 16, 2016

The Sicilian
Sep 3, 2006

by Smythe

blugu64 posted:

It's been three weeks since I ordered a chargepoint, and blink cards. Still nothing :(

Edit: speak of the devil, I get home and my ChargePoint card is waiting for me on the table :)

Protip, use the app regardless.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Can't, my office has a free ChargePoint charger but is unlisted so it's not on the app or searchable, so there's no way to activate it via the app.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Goddamn it I don't even have the plates yet and some dick just backed in/side swiped my car in a parking lot. I was parked and stationary, and he took off before I could get the plates.

It's not bad and only cosmetic but damnit man, this is the first car I've owned that wasn't 10+ years old.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





blugu64 posted:

Goddamn it I don't even have the plates yet and some dick just backed in/side swiped my car in a parking lot. I was parked and stationary, and he took off before I could get the plates.

It's not bad and only cosmetic but damnit man, this is the first car I've owned that wasn't 10+ years old.

Sounds about right. There's always this new car stress and it inevitably gets dinged up. At least you have it over with.

My first new car, before I even had plates... awful hail storm came through and did 4k+ damage in body work.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Subjunctive posted:

Yeah, I didn't like it on the X, and was disappointed that I was going to get it on my replacement S, but I've really come around.

Hahaha I'm the exact opposite and didn't even consider buying an S until they changed it. I love the new front.

Also Blugu that sucks so much. I did the worlds longest sigh when someone even scratched my first new car. Other drivers are the worst.

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Luckily it is only cosmetic, though it really sucks to have that happen so quickly and the immediate insurance hit/deductible.

There is a Model X in town, seen it a few times and really like the looks. Sadly, there are no superchargers anywhere near us, so it is just a fancy city car without some careful planning of 240v charging for trips. So much for Tesla's original 2015 promise on that.

fordan
Mar 9, 2009

Clue: Zero
So Tesla owners, be sure to move your car off the Supercharger immediately when it's charged. Tesla is going to start charging a 40 cent/min fee for every minute you leave your Tesla plugged in when it's done charging (waived if it's under 5 minutes). No upper limit to the fee.

https://www.tesla.com/support/supercharger-idle-fee

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
40¢⁄minute is usurious.

“Charging an electric car isn’t so bad. You can have lunch or go shopping while you wait.”

…But be prepared to drop everything, and don’t stray more than five minutes from the car.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

I think it's a good idea and prevents assholes from being assholes.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
BRB, hacking the car to lie about its state of charge and dump energy into a resistor bank to keep the meter from starting.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Platystemon posted:

BRB, hacking the car to lie about its state of charge and dump energy into a resistor bank to keep the meter from starting.

Why not swap the resistor bank for a supplemental battery pack?

I agree with Tesla, given that there are idiots who park at the supercharger overnight etc. Nobody thinks gas pumps are parking spots, so I guess this needs to be hammered in.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Ola posted:

Why not swap the resistor bank for a supplemental battery pack?

Because it takes shedloads of capacity to absorb a supercharger’s output for an appreciable amount of time.

Even if you were paying retail rates for the electricity used, it would still be cheaper to waste it than to eat Tesla’s parking fine.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Platystemon posted:


Even if you were paying retail rates for the electricity used, it would still be cheaper to waste it than to eat Tesla’s parking fine.

Good! Move the car!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I’m not opposed to a disincentive to hogging charger space. I am opposed to such a stiff one.

It’s like telecommunications. A given bundle of copper has a finite bandwidth, and we all need to share it.

So telecom companies institute data caps.

But that’s not really why they’re doing it. They’re doing it because it’s a great revenue generator. There really ought to be investing in infrastructure, but that’s expensive and it threatens the fees they are now dependent on.

When it’s cheaper for NASA to get data from a deep space probe than it is for me to text my friend on the other side of the city, the fees are too high.

When it’s cheaper to pay for valet, the fees are too high.

What’s more problematic to you, as a telecom customer? Slow downloads at peak times because your neighbours are all torrenting porn? Or are you more frequently concerned about running into your data cap?

How many times have you pulled up to a supercharger site and found all bays full? Enough to justify the guaranteed inconvenience of babysitting your car every time you use one?

It’s worse than feeding a parking meter. At least with those I know with certainty at what time I will have to go feed them money or move my car. I’m also far more likely to find a meter close to where I want to be than I am to find a Supercharger.

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Dec 17, 2016

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Platystemon posted:

It’s worse than feeding a parking meter. At least with those I know with certainty at what time I will have to go feed them money or move my car. I’m also far more likely to find a meter close to where I want to be than I am to find a Supercharger.

I find the charge-time estimates from the car and app to be pretty accurate. Do you not? The "it's almost done" notification usually gives me enough time to wrap up what I'm doing, too.

I guess they could only charge if all bays were full or something, but that was the case more often than not for some of the SCs I used to frequent.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Platystemon posted:



It’s worse than feeding a parking meter. At least with those I know with certainty at what time I will have to go feed them money or move my car. I’m also far more likely to find a meter close to where I want to be than I am to find a Supercharger.

Sounds like you're confusing parking with charging. Have a plan to charge to 80-85, then you can be a bit late and let it charge to 90-95 without paying anything. Plan to move the car after 20-30 minutes, don't leave it and go do something which you can't leave for hours.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Is it manageable? Yes.

Does it put a bad taste in my mouth? Also yes.

I think it’s a bad business move. Electric car makers have enough trouble convincing people to adjust their lifestyles.

Supercharging is supposed to ease range anxiety, not replace it with anxiety of another kind.

Maybe Tesla really should hire valets for their high‐traffic superchargers, if the space is so precious.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

You're just trying to justify your own nonchalance and laziness. Move your drat car, someone else wants to charge.

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I wonder if it's priced high enough to not backfire. Replacing social pressure with fees doesn't always work well, especially if the people in question have a lot of disposable income. Childcare places see this, when they institute late pickup fees: people feel that since they're now paying for it, it's ok to be late. It stopped being an imposition on another human, and started being a $1/minute economic transaction.

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