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Cell phones were almost universally poo poo pre-iPhone and especially around ~2004-2006 you couldn't sit down with a group of friends without having a discussion about why each person hated their piece of poo poo cell phone. The only thing worth maaaaybe getting nostalgic for is being able to close your flip phone with the flick of the wrist.
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prom candy posted:Cell phones were almost universally poo poo pre-iPhone and especially around ~2004-2006 you couldn't sit down with a group of friends without having a discussion about why each person hated their piece of poo poo cell phone. The only thing worth maaaaybe getting nostalgic for is being able to close your flip phone with the flick of the wrist. Cool kids could open them with a flick, too. Pinch the keyboard side between your fingertips and palm, then flick your wrist outward.
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Dec 13, 2016 14:37
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JnnyThndrs posted:Holy poo poo, that was the best feature phone ever and you're the only person that I've ever seen who remembers it. I kept mine well into the smartphone era because it worked so well. The e-ink keys were great and you could text like a motherfucker with it. Too bad someone doesn't redo it with modern LTE and Android. Yeah I could definitely type way faster on that thing than I could on a smartphone keyboard. I loved that drat phone. I posted a couple of Motorola Droids that had really awesome solid keyboards earlier in the thread, but the Alias 2 was my favorite of all time I think. Some indie smartphone company was working on a phone with an e-ink display on the back; not sure if it ever took off though. Also Pebble had those e-ink smartwatches which were supposed to be pretty sweet, but  they're a dead company nowI also definitely remember an issue of either GQ or Wired that had an e-ink cover. e-ink is a cool idea and it's a shame it's only really used in Kindles
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I don’t think Pebble ever used e‐ink, just low‐power LCDs that they cleverly up‐branded. Think of the LCD in a ’90s wristwatch. It’s always on, yet the watch runs for a decade on a CR2032. Using a pixel grid instead of seven segments per digit uses a little more power, but not enough to matter in a smart watch. e: Okay, so that’s what they did with the original, but the Pebble Time did use real e‐paper. e2: gently caress that, they just doubled down on the misinformation. Pebble Time used LCD after all. Part number is LPM014T262C. E‐Ink is a trademark. “E‐paper” is not, and Pebble took full advantage of that. 
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Platystemon posted:Cool kids could open them with a flick, too. I broke the hinge on my Motorola doing this.
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Dec 13, 2016 15:00
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You can't unsee the goatse in the nGage once you know it's there.
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Platystemon posted:Cool kids could open them with a flick, too. But if you're in New York they arrest you for having a "gravity phone"
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Dec 13, 2016 17:29
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Holy poo poo I want this phone. Especially if you push a button and it flips up.
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I think it rotated.
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Yeah that's what I mean. If it's spring loaded to swing up.
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Cojawfee posted:Yeah that's what I mean. If it's spring loaded to swing up. It is, I have one somewhere, I never used it back in the day or anything but it somehow mysteriously appeared in my house about three years ago 
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Platystemon posted:I don’t think Pebble ever used e‐ink, just low‐power LCDs that they cleverly up‐branded. Looks like you're right, though according to the definitions, E-Ink is a specific type of E-Paper. Also the Alias 2 used actual E-Ink 
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Quote-Unquote posted:You can't unsee the goatse in the nGage once you know it's there. Was it ever confirmed outside of these forums that the design was legitimately based on goatse? I mean yeah the resemblance is obvious, but I've never found a second source for the story that all the engineers at Nokia hated the N-Gage and they deliberately made the first design based on goatse as a joke and it got approved and put into production.
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goose willis posted:I never had one of those and I always wondered how the hell you were supposed to type on those tiny keys Carefully yet poorly.
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Kelp Me! posted:
E-ink really promised so much. I first read about it when it was in the development stage in a blurb in Maximum PC and I figured that was definitely how we'd all be reading magazines in the near future. Are computer magazines a tech relic yet? I used to love reading old issues of PC World that you'd find in libraries and stuff. The 386 era was hilarious to look at by 2002 or so.
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 Re: Old cell phones: The Blackberry Bold 9000 had a bad OS and a terrible web browser, but to this day it's the best phone I've ever had for texting. I didn't even have to look at it while I wrote.
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Kelp Me! posted:Also the Alias 2 used actual E-Ink Too bad there are no published details about how to interface with the keys and re‐purpose them.
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Will we ever return to the days of phones with physical keyboards
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Just wanna know what's so dang hard about mass producing a e-ink watch that's designed to be hackable.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Was it ever confirmed outside of these forums that the design was legitimately based on goatse? I don't know if that story is true (a quick Google has people talking about it on other forums besides SA as far back as 2003!), but I'd kinda be surprised if it isn't considering exactly how strong the resemblance is. Like, it's too similar, aside from having too many fingers on one side.
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PinkoBastard posted:
I had a lovely tracphone a few years ago. It had a keyboard almost exactly like that which was something I kinda missed when I bought an actual smartphone. Touchscreen texting still feels weird sometimes and if I'm drunk/high haha forget about it.
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Gobblecoque posted:I had a lovely tracphone a few years ago. It had a keyboard almost exactly like that which was something I kinda missed when I bought an actual smartphone. Touchscreen texting still feels weird sometimes and if I'm drunk/high haha forget about it. I never tried using a blackberry keyboard until after I'd already had an iPhone and I've never been able to get used to the tiny buttons. People who had blackberrys first seem to have the opposite problem.
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Trunko posted:Will we ever return to the days of phones with physical keyboards Oh how I wish! I can deal with the extra bulk in size as I use a lovely Samsung S4 Zoom that sucks for putting in pockets. In my test run a few months ago of using either an Nokia N900 or N97 at a primary phone - they were slim enough to pocket and had all the physical functionality I needed, but alas no Android support for the apps that are now critical to my daily life (banking software being one)
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Sentient Data posted:This was my favorite phone of all that I ever owned (followed closely by the palm pre back when webos was a thing), and I wish the price for the gsm version wasn't so stupidly high Reminds me of my old LG Chocolate. Not a bad phone, but I was really pining for one of these bad boys.  The built-in keyboard sold it for me. Trunko posted:Will we ever return to the days of phones with physical keyboards Not if you like your phones nice and ultra-thin.
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As soon as swipe-to-type became a thing I realised how truly awful those tiny horrible mobile phone keyboards were.
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I figured out by accident that I can trigger the shutter and flash on my Canon camera by winking at it. It won't be long before you don't even have to type on a real or fake keyboard, you'll just make a dumb face or mash your fingers on the screen and you'll send huge slabs of thought through the tubes (or launch the Awful app). Which sorta reminds me of this old story by Asimov: http://www.sffaudio.com/someday-by-isaac-asimov/
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Dec 14, 2016 17:23
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You are already able to fart into your phone's microphone and it posts to something awful forums.
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PinkoBastard posted:
My Treo had the best nubbin keyboard. So good for texting.
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doctorfrog posted:I figured out by accident that I can trigger the shutter and flash on my Canon camera by winking at it. It won't be long before you don't even have to type on a real or fake keyboard, you'll just make a dumb face or mash your fingers on the screen and you'll send huge slabs of thought through the tubes (or launch the Awful app). I interpreted this to mean that Canon has developed a hell camera designed to only take pictures of people when they're blinking.
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I miss my Palm Pixi. Clicky keyboard, wireless charging, multitasking, cloud-based data sync, all that in 2009.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4qwhrw45bM
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I miss my Palm Pixi. Clicky keyboard, wireless charging, multitasking, cloud-based data sync, all that in 2009. Man I remember people lining up outside the Sprint store for those on release day, iPhone/Apple Store style.
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And they were right to do so - webos is much better than ios and every ios-ifying android update. I miss gingerbread and hardware keyboards 
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Sentient Data posted:And they were right to do so - webos is much better than ios and every ios-ifying android update. I miss gingerbread and hardware keyboards I miss hardware keyboards but my only experience with Gingerbread was on older tablets and God I hated that poo poo e: speaking of tablets I contend that there was not, nor will ever be, a better tablet than the 2013 Nexus 7. Haven't found a stock, cruft/bloatware/overlay-free tablet as thin, sharp and responsive as that one and as long as the XDA forums keeps pumping out unofficial software updates for it, I don't think I'll ever upgrade it. Snow Cone Capone has a new favorite as of 22:05 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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I will agree with that. I've seen lots of tablets and I love my Nexus 7. Probably would be cooler if it were bigger. I never had a Nexus 9, so I don't know if that was any good. The 7 is still really good.
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Kind of reminds me of the first smart phone I got was the android based T-Mobile G1:  I think I got it in around 2008 after upgrading from some Nokia thing and I was really happy to not have to use T9 texting anymore. A few years after that I got an iPhone 4 and it was weird getting used to the on screen keyboard. e: just last year I was living in Japan and was rocking this badass phone:  SoftBank Pantone 202SH. poo poo ruled. Iron Prince has a new favorite as of 02:13 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Speaking of Webos and old tablets... I have an HP touchpad, dual boot with Webos and android that gave my 2 y/o to fiddle with and he LOVES it. Here, I will take a quick video. Ignore the unwrapped Christmas present mess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9ivmHdPGg
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I loved the palm pre. I had a pre plus, a pre 2, and then hp cancelled the pre 3 after they had been manufactured but before they had been released. They gave a bunch out to palm employees who were about to be laid off so they unloaded them all on eBay, and I bought one of those too. WebOS was so good. As for modern phones with a keyboard, the Blackberry Priv is nice. It's not thick, it has a keyboard that slides out at the bottom, palm pre style, it has a decently sized and really nice screen, and runs a very lightly themed version of android. They've tried to bring the blackberry is workflow over to android and it's ok, but you can ignore that if you want and treat it as a 95% stock android phone.
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I had a Nokia 3300 in the first part of this century, and I still remember it fondly.
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