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loquacius posted:I'm not going to watch this 86-minute-long Youtube video, but we didn't lose this election because Trump's philosophy matches up so well with the American people, we lost this election because the DNC poo poo the bed He has more votes than Romney. He had less than Romney as of election night but people forget for some reason millions of votes are counted after election night, to the point where Hillary is only down a couple hundred thousand on Obama 2012.
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All y'all saying Social Democracy > Socialism, remember we had a pretty strong Keynesian thing going on and it all broke down over about 30 years and now look at where we are. Also remember that the one thing Capitalism does better than anything else is destroy its opposition. Finally remember that even Social Democracy is guilty of terrible loving atrocities at home and overseas. If you're interested in the best lives for the most people, the only long term solution is the complete systematic dismantling of the global capitalist/imperialist system. Anything short of that will bring us right back to technocracy and predatory, crony capitalism. Thank you for your time. Full Socialism now.
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Most socialists seem to really loving dig imperialism though, and socialism doesnt stop that Edit: actually i guess thats mostly communists Socialism doesnt seem any more stable than anything else though
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Baloogan posted:eye....brows....
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Zikan posted:she has breast cancer but it was caught early so she's getting treatment and probably will pull through He's in remission as well
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GlyphGryph posted:Most socialists seem to really loving dig imperialism though, and socialism doesnt stop that Yeah. I mean I'm the first one to object whenever someone busts out the "b-b-but the USSR!" objection to socialism, but you can't deny that socialist regimes as we've seen them so far haven't exactly shied away from sending the Red/People's Army in whenever it's been convenient.
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Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to imply capitalism = bad and socialism = wonderful. I more meant capitalism = inevitably bad and socialism = potentially good. Thank you for your time. Full Socialism now.
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yeah I have no hope that an american socialism would be any better or worse than any tried so far maybe it is the people that are bad guillotine everyone just to be safe
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Who the gently caress is pewdiepie, another youtube idiot trying to cash in on the gator reactionary crowd?
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pewdiepie is THE youtube idiot
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zegermans posted:Who the gently caress is pewdiepie, another youtube idiot trying to cash in on the gator reactionary crowd? Go read about pewdiepie, and then please come back here and let us know how depressed you are.
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I ain't concerned with labels. You can call me a liberal, a socialist, a communist, a son of a bitch, I don't care. If it will actually help people, and more especially help the poor and working classes, then I'm fer it: universal health care, universal basic income, a few heads of billionaires on pikes, free college, the economic freedom for a person to do what they want and not what merely what others will pay them to do, and anything else that will improve the quality of life of my brothers and sisters in this great land of ours. If you're human and you're hurting, that makes us kin as far as I'm concerned. If it helps the rich, gently caress em, they already got and got too much as it is with nothing more than a 'gently caress off' to the minds, muscle, and souls what got them there. Y'all had your turn and you've about ruined us. And goddamn it, we're not about to take any more of it.
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loquacius posted:I'm not going to watch this 86-minute-long Youtube video, but we didn't lose this election because Trump's philosophy matches up so well with the American people, we lost this election because the DNC poo poo the bed it's actually both, Hillary shat the bed terribly and a poo poo ton of white Americans totes agreed with what Trump was saying
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:I ain't concerned with labels. You can call me a liberal, a socialist, a communist, a son of a bitch, I don't care. If it will actually help people, and more especially help the poor and working classes, then I'm fer it: universal health care, universal basic income, a few heads of billionaires on pikes, free college, the economic freedom for a person to do what they want and not what merely what others will pay them to do, and anything else that will improve the quality of life of my brothers and sisters in this great land of ours. If you're human and you're hurting, that makes us kin as far as I'm concerned. Uh, 
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so how salty are we about the new TNC piece in the Atlantic
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:I ain't concerned with labels. You can call me a liberal, a socialist, a communist, a son of a bitch, I don't care. If it will actually help people, and more especially help the poor and working classes, then I'm fer it: universal health care, universal basic income, a few heads of billionaires on pikes, free college, the economic freedom for a person to do what they want and not what merely what others will pay them to do, and anything else that will improve the quality of life of my brothers and sisters in this great land of ours. If you're human and you're hurting, that makes us kin as far as I'm concerned. big time Son of a Bitch Party member here
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:I ain't concerned with labels. You can call me a liberal, a socialist, a communist, a son of a bitch, I don't care. If it will actually help people, and more especially help the poor and working classes, then I'm fer it: universal health care, universal basic income, a few heads of billionaires on pikes, free college, the economic freedom for a person to do what they want and not what merely what others will pay them to do, and anything else that will improve the quality of life of my brothers and sisters in this great land of ours. If you're human and you're hurting, that makes us kin as far as I'm concerned. scoop, if true. time for a little game theory. trend this.
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I don't even know who that is but seeing him in the "Fight Song" video made me angry.
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Thoguh posted:I don't even know who that is but seeing him in the "Fight Song" video made me angry. he looks so proud of himself for beatboxing and you just want 2 crush his windpipe
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I sometimes don't know what Adam Curtis means by the Hypernormal, but this is almost definitely it.
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guy cecil (priorities USA chair and supposedly-but-not-really runner-up to robby mook for hfa cm) unexpectedly has been kind of on a tear recently. i think he's largely in the correct direction https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/808732159720771585 https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/808733289766940680 https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/808733972389920769 https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/808734421457190913 https://twitter.com/guycecil/status/808735512928382978
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Concerned Citizen posted:guy cecil (priorities USA chair and supposedly-but-not-really runner-up to robby mook for hfa cm) unexpectedly has been kind of on a tear recently. i think he's largely in the correct direction Cecil was always 'the smart one' in that gaggle so I'm not surprised he's the one who seemed to actually learn while Mook is still dumb as poo poo.
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loquacius posted:I'm not going to watch this 86-minute-long Youtube video, but we didn't lose this election because Trump's philosophy matches up so well with the American people, we lost this election because the DNC poo poo the bed You should watch it. Blyth is compelling to listen to, and he's got some very smart points on how most macroeconomists don't know what they're talking about.
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Democracy for America endorses Ellison for DNC chair. Building up a lot of support.
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paranoid randroid posted:so how salty are we about the new TNC piece in the Atlantic It's quite good and I think mostly correct about what Obama got right and where he fell short. Not sure why you'd think there'd be a different attitude about it here.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:You should watch it. Blyth is compelling to listen to, and he's got some very smart points on how most macroeconomists don't know what they're talking about. Eh, I got stuff to do today  *spends 8 consecutive hours posting on SA*OhFunny posted:Democracy for America endorses Ellison for DNC chair.  No surprises here, DFA endorsed Bernie too. That's what happens when grassroots organizations poll their members to decide their endorsements rather than having their leadership decide themselves, the endorsement goes to whoever has more grassroots support.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Cecil was always 'the smart one' in that gaggle so I'm not surprised he's the one who seemed to actually learn while Mook is still dumb as poo poo. mook and cecil, the world's worst goofus and gallant
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robbie mook pisses the rust belt down his leg guy cecil carefully numbers his tweets
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The USSR was state capitalist, not Socialist. Socialism is a democratic system where the workers control the means of production and decide what to produce, how to produce it, whom to sell it to and what to do with the profits - as opposed to a few capitalists at the top calling the shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZhJ-74FcR8
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paranoid randroid posted:so how salty are we about the new TNC piece in the Atlantic it's pretty accurate, imho quote:Obama’s greatest misstep was born directly out of his greatest insight. Only Obama, a black man who emerged from the best of white America, and thus could sincerely trust white America, could be so certain that he could achieve broad national appeal. And yet only a black man with that same biography could underestimate his opposition’s resolve to destroy him.
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