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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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bitterandtwisted posted:I hadn't realised Edinburgh Trams were likely to be extended down Leath, but apparently, that's part of the reason Leith Walk is currently being dug up. What's everyone's thoughts on that? They already dug up Leith Walk for the trams in 2008-9, from what I remember most of the utilities have been moved out of the way of the tracks or moved deeper so the trams won't destroy the ducts. Then again that is long enough ago that some company will have appeared and buried something too close to the surface, just enough to cause you many more years of delays as they try to get Edinburgh to pay to have it moved. GL. edit: because I was thinking about it again: The original plan had airport-->Princes street and a ring back via Leith Walk and Ocean Terminal and out to Clermiston and back out to the airport via the Gogar depot (where the trams go to sleep) and there was also a plan for a later extension down the way of Edinburgh uni's king's buildings, or in the vicinity of them anyway. In fact, how many different areas have they dug up this time? I remember it being maximum 7 open sites at once across the entire route, for maximum annoyage... Budgie fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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The data on how every school in Scotland is doing on reading, writing and numeracy is now available here. Don't worry, they've taken every possible measure to stop league tables from being made. They put a message on the home page telling you not to make one. 
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Dec 13, 2016 17:25
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baronvonsabre posted:The data on how every school in Scotland is doing on reading, writing and numeracy is now available here. Don't worry, they've taken every possible measure to stop league tables from being made. The Scottish Government really are bewildering sometimes.
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Dec 13, 2016 17:30
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bitterandtwisted posted:I hadn't realised Edinburgh Trams were likely to be extended down Leath, but apparently, that's part of the reason Leith Walk is currently being dug up. What's everyone's thoughts on that? The trams are awesome. I live near one of the stops and use it for the airport or for getting into town all the time. There's just less thinking required overall due to its linearity. Like I've been here 5 years and still have to Google which bus to get anywhere, even down to leith. On top of that the traffic lights seem calibrated to it so it gets through princes street faster. Seeing as they go at a fixed speed (as far as I'm aware) they'd be a lot more efficient too in terms of traffic congestion along the city centre if they were the only things going along it. It would be good to get one running along each trunk road through the city. Like up over the bridges to the very southern end of the city, and maybe one going down Lothian Road too. Any disruption on clerk Street and Newington would kick up a ridiculous amount of fuss though. The amount of nimbyism going on for the cycle path in murrayfield is ridiculous.
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Dec 13, 2016 19:32
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forkboy84 posted:The Scottish Government really are bewildering sometimes. URL is also the word 'tableau'
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Dec 13, 2016 19:49
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Sion posted:URL is also the word 'tableau' That's the name of the software they are using, still ironic
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Dec 14, 2016 00:30
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Rebranded PFI still a crap idea. Who could've guessed?. Rather weirdly, it doesn't mention the SNP once, not even to ask for comment.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:33
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Well, looks like the SNP are taking their first tentative bite of the bullet; gotta give them credit for doing it, I suppose: https://www.ft.com/content/3a97dbe6-c2ed-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354quote:Wealthier taxpayers in Scotland will pay more tax than their counterparts elsewhere in the UK when the Scottish government exercises its powers over income tax for the first time next year.
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Just thinking this morning about the oft repeated nationalist threat that the Scottish government could 'call a second referendum'. Any such referendum would have to have the backing of Westminster to have any legitimacy, but if Holyrood didn't get it and attempted to hold one anyway, would they be able to compel local authorities - only a few of which are run by the SNP - to take part? Without the polling stations and vote counters I'm not sure how such a poll would be possible.
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Dec 22, 2016 10:26
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Pissflaps posted:Just thinking this morning about the oft repeated nationalist threat that the Scottish government could 'call a second referendum'. I assume this is how you spend every morning
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Dec 22, 2016 14:14
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Angepain posted:I assume this is how you spend every morning At least during his private time.
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Dec 22, 2016 14:21
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The Scottish government should just make the next referendum a 'retweet for yes like for no' Twitter poll.
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Dec 22, 2016 19:38
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Pissflaps posted:Without the polling stations and vote counters I'm not sure how such a poll would be possible. Perhaps they could seek advice from their major donor Brian Souter? After all, he has experience organising a Scotland -wide poll that eschewed polling stations.
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Dec 22, 2016 22:06
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/syrian-baker-who-fled-war-now-serving-pastries-in-east-lothian-1-4324419 Not everything is bad 
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Dec 23, 2016 15:12
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Andy Murray has received a Knighthood and many nationalists are not happy about it.
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Dec 31, 2016 11:10
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Pissflaps posted:Andy Murray has received a Knighthood and many nationalists are not happy about it. how do they feel about Alexander McEwen's knighthood?
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Dec 31, 2016 11:26
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Are we independent yet?
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Dec 31, 2016 17:50
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Scottish Leave voters are looking forward to independence from the EU.
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Dec 31, 2016 17:54
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Happy 2017 Scotgoons. Lang may yer lum reek and all that. EDIT: Ooooh, happy postiversary to me!
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Jan 1, 2017 01:44
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Acaila posted:Happy 2017 Scotgoons. Lang may yer lum reek and all that. hah scots isnt a real language u nerd (Happy new year  )
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Jan 1, 2017 03:59
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Does anybody want to talk about baby boxes? Or the latest independence preference polling data?
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Jan 2, 2017 23:08
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Pissflaps posted:Does anybody want to talk about baby boxes? Or the latest independence preference polling data? I like the idea of baby boxes (although slightly sad that i missed out on them like I did with the baby bonds - my baby timing was rubbish). What would be even better would be putting the child benefit forms in them too and kicking Bounty out of maternity wards. Or just kicking Bounty out of maternity wards and giving new parents child benefit forms at any of the other times people see them. They could just have a big pile of them on the desk - whatever. (For people who don't frequent maternity units Bounty is a company that give out free samples and try and get you to buy photos of your baby. They also give you your child benefit forms and can make new mums - who have probably been through a fairly sleep deprived and painful 24 hours - feel obliged to hand over personal information that they use for marketing as well as spending money on fancy photos because of the legitimacy that providing government forms gives them.)
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Jan 2, 2017 23:22
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Baby boxes are fine but are bizarrely celebrated despite just being a box with some stuff in it and doing nothing to combat issues such as child poverty and the attainment gap, i.e. things that actually matter. Labour's response has been woefully inadequate and appears just to be "there should be some more stuff in the boxes". I've not seen the new polling data but I'm going to predict it, right here, in front of your very eyes: nothing has changed and No is still in a large lead. Nothing that has happened since 2014 has brought people into the independence campaign. Whenever anybody switches from No to Yes, somebody else (like myself) switches from Yes to No.
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Jan 2, 2017 23:22
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Pissflaps posted:Does anybody want to talk about baby boxes? Or the latest independence preference polling data? Baby boxes good. Independence polling data bad. More substantively, baby boxes are a neat little cheap policy idea and Labour's response to it shows why they are on the way to polling single digits. Independence support won't change until a new approach is taken by Sturgeon. Or the EU suddenly starts being a lot more accommodating to an Independent Scotland's membership post-brexit. I don't see either happening. At this point (unless something changes dramatically) there needs to be a development of a solid 20-30 year strategy concerning independence, based around a separate Scottish currency and membership of EFTA. 20-30 years is the arbitrary time I give the SNP to sell both of these ideas to the electorate in a way that wins majority support. But i'm an ultra-gradualist which is a dying breed in the party and it's hard to expect a lot of the new-converts to accept such a long-term strategy.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:05
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Yeah the baby boxes seem harmless and might do some good for some people - I think Labour were ill advised to come out against them in any way. It looks terrible regardless of the merits of what was said. The poem that's going to accompany them, however, is execrable.
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Jan 3, 2017 00:08
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What's the polling data now?
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Jan 3, 2017 01:12
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54.5% No.
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Jan 3, 2017 01:18
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14997280.Majority_of_Scots_oppose_second_independence_vote_in_2017__poll_shows/ Pretty standard stuff. No desire for a referendum this year and support for independence is the same as it was 2 years ago.
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Jan 3, 2017 01:19
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The Graun: Universal basic income trials being considered in Scotland This is encouraging.
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Jan 3, 2017 12:42
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Can it even be called 'universal' anymore when you've restricted it down to one council area? I'm willing to bet right now that whatever the council comes up with won't even be for everyone in the city, and won't be a basic income you could live off of. UBI will continue to be a pipe dream.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:11
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How could a council even provide UBI?
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Jan 3, 2017 15:13
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cargohills posted:Baby boxes are fine but are bizarrely celebrated despite just being a box with some stuff in it and doing nothing to combat issues such as child poverty and the attainment gap, i.e. things that actually matter. Labour's response has been woefully inadequate and appears just to be "there should be some more stuff in the boxes". Apparently they've been very effective in Finland at reducing the child poverty rate substantially, so maybe they do have an inherent effect. Polling is irrelevant until Article 50 and/or Brexit moves forwards in any substantial way.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:30
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How do baby boxes reduce child poverty? Are they filled with cash?Coohoolin posted:Polling is irrelevant until Article 50 and/or Brexit moves forwards in any substantial way. Bollocks.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:34
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It's bollocks that the bad things predicted have to occur before real change in opinions?
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Jan 3, 2017 15:41
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Pissflaps posted:Bollocks. Why? Even with the pound dropping people are still in for Brexit right now because nothing bad has really happened. When they start privatizing the NHS Sturgeon should try again.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:41
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It's bollocks that polling only matters at an arbitrary point in time.Fiction posted:Why? Even with the pound dropping people are still in for Brexit right now because nothing bad has really happened. When they start privatizing the NHS Sturgeon should try again. The NHS is devolved, and we're referring to Scottish independence polling.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:42
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Pissflaps posted:It's bollocks that polling only matters at an arbitrary point in time. That's a ridiculous stance. Polling results are a snapshot of the public opinion. If something major has happened of course it will effect the poll results. What "matter of time" it is is extremely important. You are claiming that it's not important to compare a poll before a possible economic collapse with one after.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:54
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TomViolence posted:The Graun: Universal basic income trials being considered in Scotland I really like the idea but the more I read about the people in politics championing UBI, the more suspicious that they are just trying to poison the well. £100 a week? Hmmm, scrap JSA, housing benefit, council tax assistance, and just give everyone a lump sum which sounds like more than JSA but is much less than the combined benefits. It's potential disastrous for people who will simply no longer be able to afford both the rent & keeping the electricity on and having enough money to eat healthily.
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Jan 3, 2017 15:55
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Regarde Aduck posted:That's a ridiculous stance. Polling results are a snapshot of the public opinion. If something major has happened of course it will effect the poll results. What "matter of time" it is is extremely important. Something major has happened. Support for independence remains static. What's bollocks is deciding that a current snapshot of public opinion somehow doesn't matter because you hope that the snapshot will be different at some point in the future. Regarde Aduck posted:You are claiming that it's not important to compare a poll before a possible economic collapse with one after. No I'm not.
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the only way you could think that is if you think brexit won't cause economic recession, which, lol
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