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Concerned Citizen posted:2020 starts now!!! the message they should be getting is "they want a new face with new ideas leading the party" but they're going to get "boy people really want to see president joe biden!!!!!"
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tbh i'm surprised bernie isn't leading but it's fine because i'll always be on the Liz Warren Train
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Al! posted:the message they should be getting is "they want a new face with new ideas leading the party" but they're going to get "boy people really want to see president joe biden!!!!!" also the poll is probably bullshit
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Agean90 posted:also the poll is probably bullshit this argument will be valid for the next forever
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Serf posted:this argument will be valid for the next forever
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The hope seems to be "we can nominate whoever, because we just need to ask 'are you better off now than you were 4 years ago' and walk away with the victory." The reality (if they go with this strategy) is likely identical results to 2016, after Trump singles out just enough factories in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc. that a small majority of voters in thos states will respond "yes."
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Unless they're the next "green jobs"
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Agean90 posted:also the poll is probably bullshit A poll in December right after the election basically boils down to "who on this list do you recognize"
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Alter Ego posted:A poll in December right after the election basically boils down to "who on this list do you recognize" yeah pretty much, it is interesting though to see strong support for left-leaning candidates as well as general feeling that none of them are good enough candidates.
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Nonsense posted:Maybe coal miners can be uranium miners obama sold those mines off to russians
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quote:Though D.N.C. officials had learned that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had been infected, too, they did not notify their sister organization, which was in the same building, because they were afraid that it would leak. incredible. literally incredible.
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I'll never stop lollin at how john podesta clicked on a Cool Free Ringtones link and the entire DNC got owned to the point where they swear up and down elite russian hackers stole their emails
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speaking of podcasts street fight radio should be in required listening of cspam. It's good like chapo but a little less up it's own rear end about weird in jokes.
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Dec 13, 2016 21:08
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Is there any support for Perez besides that one article saying "well, he's part of the Obama admin, so even though Obama hasn't endorsed him he kind of has? HORSERACE!" Ellison pretty much has this on lock: he's got the unions, Bernie's krewe, Schumer, some others I'm forgetting--I just don't see any major sources for Perez to call upon short of an Actual Obama Endorsement (which he won't give).
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OAquinas posted:Is there any support for Perez besides that one article saying "well, he's part of the Obama admin, so even though Obama hasn't endorsed him he kind of has? HORSERACE!"
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Segmentation Fault posted:I'll never stop lollin at how john podesta clicked on a Cool Free Ringtones link and the entire DNC got owned to the point where they swear up and down elite russian hackers stole their emails The easiest way to get into any computer system is to just give people the opportunity to click on dumb poo poo or plug in a flash drive they found.
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the fact the Joe Biden is getting so much support just proves how little people actually gave a poo poo about Clinton's policy stuff because he's exactly the same as her, or to the right of her, on literally everything.
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OAquinas posted:Is there any support for Perez besides that one article saying "well, he's part of the Obama admin, so even though Obama hasn't endorsed him he kind of has? HORSERACE!" haim saban and whole host of obama white house staff people plus the soft power of obama phoning up state democratic party chairs and vice chairs (about half the voting membership of the dnc)
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Setting aside which guy has the highest ranking Social Links, is there actually a strong reason to prefer Perez over Ellison?
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Rangpur posted:Setting aside which guy has the highest ranking Social Links, is there actually a strong reason to prefer Perez over Ellison? Perez is known as a genuine friend to labor but apart from that there isn't and even that isn't really a strong reason.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:the fact the Joe Biden is getting so much support just proves how little people actually gave a poo poo about Clinton's policy stuff because he's exactly the same as her, or to the right of her, on literally everything. There are so many things wrong with this post i do not even have the energy to pick it apart. How do you make it through the day Lets just stick with "so much support" being weird for someone with only a third of the poll results despite being one of the best known if not THE best known member of the party
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Perez is known as a genuine friend to labor but apart from that there isn't and even that isn't really a strong reason. Isnt ellison known to be the same? So that doesnt really count as an advantage if it applies to both
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Dec 13, 2016 21:20
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GlyphGryph posted:There are so many things wrong with this post i do not even have the energy to pick it apart. How do you make it through the day let me put it another way then the fact that Biden, who is a much more regressive option than Clinton was, gets literally any support, is a sign how little people gave a poo poo about her policies and probably has some other factors to bring up too
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Perez is known as a genuine friend to labor but apart from that there isn't and even that isn't really a strong reason. heroic Yoshimitsu ftw
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Tatum Girlparts posted:let me put it another way then well he is sitting vp, that surely counts for something. but if warren wasn't in that poll i suspect bernie would be far ahead. since i doubt both of them would run (since it would ensure neither wins), i think the left is doing much better than implied. of course there's still a couple years until this poo poo kicks off so who knows what it will look like?
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Dec 13, 2016 21:23
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let me put it another way, the poll is bullshit and drawing any conclusions from it is like trying to cook with dogshit
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Dec 13, 2016 21:23
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Mike dukakis smirks grimly as someone he becomes the not-worst candidate ever.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:make cspam great again Joke's on you pal, CSPAM's never been great! Oh wait-
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Dec 13, 2016 21:24
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GlyphGryph posted:Isnt ellison known to be the same? So that doesnt really count as an advantage if it applies to both I honestly don't know about Ellison but it wouldn't surprise me. It's more just a positive thing about Perez than a strength of his contra Ellison, honestly.
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Dec 13, 2016 21:24
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Biden is an Establishment Dem who is popular in the very states that Hillary failed to carry the hardest when she needed to. Of course he's going to get support now.
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cspam is great because cspam is good
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Biden is an Establishment Dem who is popular in the very states that Hillary failed to carry the hardest when she needed to. Of course he's going to get support now. i would say that both biden and bernie are popular with specific set of voters that we're all very concerned with right now. and they're both popular for different reasons.
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What if Hillary had been a charismatic candidate who understood the importance of playing to Rust Belt voters? She'd essentially be Diamond Joe Biden except with boobs and a vagina. To steal a term from the Military History Thread in Ask/Tell, Biden is Gay Black Hillary.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:let me put it another way then You don't know whether the people who want Biden aren't the same people who would want another Hillary run. My facebook feed suggests this is the case. e: Very Serious Democrats
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:What if Hillary had been a charismatic candidate who understood the importance of playing to Rust Belt voters? Then she wouldn't have been Hillary.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Biden is an Establishment Dem who is popular in the very states that Hillary failed to carry the hardest when she needed to. Of course he's going to get support now. I mean I'd still vote for him, and there's a solid argument to be made for his eletability... just not on the policy merits
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If we're going to seriously discuss 2020 candidate choices in 2016, then I'm choosing the comet ping pong owner, who after being terrorized by death threats for three years unleashes Chang
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