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fishmech posted:i would be highly surprised if there were real workers rights for people who don't speak the language and are either barely allowed to work in the country legally or just flat out are working illegally If I had to guess, though, people "in the shadow economy" probably make much less than average wages, so weighting it by GDP underestimates the percentage of people.
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ShadowHawk posted:Ahh ok, I was wrong then if it scales like that. I swore I had read some articles (particularly about France) where there was some notion of exempt-from-fulltime-benefits status that was increasingly growing as a worker classification, particularly among youth, but I could be either misremembering or confusing it with just old fashioned under the table labor. There is a problem in the UK with some companies trying it on and pretending that low paid staff are contractors, particularly parcel couriers, because independent contractors are exempt from holiday pay and have special tax rules. These rules were designed for high paying specialist jobs and aren't meant for people on near minimum wage. There have been a few court cases recently and these companies are about to get hosed for unpaid holiday entitlement / pension contributions. fishmech posted:i would be highly surprised if there were real workers rights for people who don't speak the language and are either barely allowed to work in the country legally or just flat out are working illegally jre posted:Just how broken is America that you literally can't believe other places have workers rights. ( for everyone ) Quoting this again because gently caress sake  
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jre posted:Quoting this again because gently caress sake lol so you're pretending none of those people exist that's kind of the problem, ya moran
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Workers in the US: "If you don't like the conditions of employment, go find another job!!" *gets mad when job requires being in a union; asks for laws to change that*
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ShadowHawk posted:Yeah and your remedies available under the NLRA are pretty weak (such as being reinstated with back-pay, working for a company that doesn't want you there) if it were up to me the presence of an illegal provision in an employee handbook would mean that all firings were assumed to have been conducted under that provision unless proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. it was really nice to go from a job where people were all uptight about money to a job where your pay is. a matter of public record and discoverable with a simple google search.
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jre posted:Quoting this again because gently caress sake europe lacked worker protections before america did so it's not worth discussing 
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europe/the uk tends to ignore their systemic issues when it comes to racism and workers rights and pretend the problems don't exist and doesn't fix them america tends to acknowledge their systemic issues when it comes to racism and workers rights and disregards the problems and doesn't fix them it is left as an exercise to the reader as to which is worse
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Stymie posted:europe/the uk tends to ignore their systemic issues when it comes to racism and workers rights and pretend the problems don't exist and doesn't fix them it's u
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Dec 11, 2016 23:26
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workers have the right to suck it
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Sagebrush posted:maybe twice a year i get one of those all-hands emails saying so-and-so is suffering from a serious illness, would you like to donate your unused vacation time to them to help them out? "buhh durr unions aren't necessary any more in the 21st century"
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I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe
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Smythe posted:I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe hehe
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Smythe posted:I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe but enough about being an SA admin
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Smythe posted:I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe 
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Smythe posted:I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe you should take your girlfriend on a vacation
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Smythe posted:I don't get any benefits and there is no official time off / leave policy. I haven't taken more than a couple days off on a handful of occasions for uh like 9? years. I also work 6 or 7 days per week usually. Hehe Please tell me this isn't true
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Shifty Pony posted:if it were up to me the presence of an illegal provision in an employee handbook would mean that all firings were assumed to have been conducted under that provision unless proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. we don't even have that provision (though i swear we did, maybe it was mentioned in a meeting) but everyone at my workplace is still really defensive over their pay i don't get it because at least one of them is making less after 4 years than a job posting for our company advertised for the same position. but the manager said "oh nobody will actually get that, we didn't say that. no sir." 
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DuckConference posted:Please tell me this isn't true lowtax is a slavedriver
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https://twitter.com/GidgetNomates/status/808516984631652352
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I mean that's what the tech support guy is gonna do anyway
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unlimited dynamic memory hack. apparently it's some kind of swap system for palm os
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quote:Google has refocused its autonomous driving efforts away from developing its own car without a steering wheel and pedals, according to a report from The Information. Instead, the company is said to be partnering with automakers on more conventional cars with a view to possibly launching an autonomous ride-sharing service by the end of next year.
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i guess the first 80% of an autonomous car is relatively easy, but the remaining 20% is really really hard.
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pretty smart of the car companies to let these guys do a bunch of the heavy lifting for them
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Wheany posted:i guess the first 80% of an autonomous car is relatively easy, but the remaining 20% is really really hard. That is very very true. My university had a graduate lab course where we built the first 80% of an autonomous car (we used a motorized wheelchair base). It took 5 grad students under a semester. There was another group that made a real car which participated in a DARPA Challenge related to self-driving, and that took a dozen grad students a bit over a year. Chauffeur has had the best experts in the world working on that last 20% for years and years and no one knows how far off they are.
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SolTerrasa posted:That is very very true. My university had a graduate lab course where we built the first 80% of an autonomous car (we used a motorized wheelchair base). It took 5 grad students under a semester. There was another group that made a real car which participated in a DARPA Challenge related to self-driving, and that took a dozen grad students a bit over a year. Chauffeur has had the best experts in the world working on that last 20% for years and years and no one knows how far off they are. I'm gonna go with far, far off
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google fiber is trying to move into my building that already offers free wifi. today they were giving out free chikfila, please spend more money google.
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Wheany posted:i guess the first 80% of an autonomous car is relatively easy, but the remaining 20% is really really hard. That's everything. Guess what part of the project involves the least of the work and all the acclaim?
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google self driving cars are being pushed out of the nest. they are now a company called waymo.
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:I'm gonna go with far, far off companies have been working on that last 20% for decades
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google realized that brillo is for scrubs, so they renamed and refocussed it. it is now known as android things and it's an iot... something.
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The Management posted:google self driving cars are being pushed out of the nest. they are now a company called waymo. Did the announcement involve implausibly optimistic hype about everyone having affordable perfect self driving cars by next tuesday? Those are my favorite part of self driving car announcements.
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The Management posted:waymo ayyyyy
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SolTerrasa posted:Did the announcement involve implausibly optimistic hype about everyone having affordable perfect self driving cars by next tuesday? Those are my favorite part of self driving car announcements. of course it did. ""It's an indication of the maturity of our technology," John Krafcik, the project's chief executive, told reporters. "We can imagine our self-driving tech being used in all sorts of areas." Until now, the program has been part of secretive research unit Google X. Waymo stands for "A new way forward in mobility," according to Krafcik. "We can imagine our self-driving technology being used in lots of different areas — ride-sharing business, in transportation, trucking, logistics, even personal use vehicles and licensing with automakers," Krafcik said." http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/google-self-driving-car-unit-to-become-waymo.html
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im gonna go ahead and say that the autism ball pit got tired of trying to get those last 20% of the way, spun that poo poo off so they can quietly close it down in a couple of years without it being too attached to the GOOGLE BRAND (TM)
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they got bored it's the answer to every single google product ever they got bored and it doesn't contribute even 1% to their bottom line so they just drop it and move on to the next shiny toy
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refleks posted:Waymo stands for "A new way forward in mobility," then it should be ANWAY but I guess that would be too self aware
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