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TheAgent posted:1 company in GR that works on the game Are you saying they have a company in Greece? Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine but if you mean Frankfurt, that's in DE.
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That reddit thread was great. I love how they still think real developers hit the same problems CIG does, just behind closed doors. I have never worked on a project that is anything like Star Citizen and thank god for that. Dear reddit lurkers, Croberts is a talentless hack that missed nearly two decades of industry advancements and best practices yet micromanages his company like he has any loving clue. Literally everything CIG does is done the wrong way and they're working backwards. There is not a single serious studio in the world that would be redoing art assets 3, 4, or 5 times in alpha while still nailing down documents and missing effectively every core feature. Since Chris does not know modern coding, or design, or how to lead all he does is focus on fidelity but no matter how many polygons you try and fill that gameplay hole with it won't be enough. But please continue to pledge often and in large amounts, I don't want the show to end.
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DapperDon posted:My very first locked thread! I'm reminded of that one thread where someone cross-posted one of my effort-posts from here to there and claimed it was a new Goon-based FUD project and then someone else posted it to the Derek Smart stalking subreddit. People were tripping over themselves to argue with it or tell everyone it wasn't worth arguing with. I roll my eyes when we do it here because we should know better but they took it to an honestly impressive level. One guy argued with every single point, possibly because he thought he was arguing with Derek Smart. I know one guy was doing a language analysis to determine if it was Derek or not. I'm Derek now.
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Man I love that a year after launching their so called Alpha, all CIG have managed to add is a couple of ships, the ability to buy pants and one new space-station. The Alpha still doesn't even have one star system and they haven't been able to do monthly patches as they said they would at the start of the year.
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Colostomy Bag posted:And what happened, then? Well, in Santa Monica they say – that the Crobert's wallet grew three sizes that day. And then – the true meaning of Star Citizen came through, and the Croberts found the strength of ten companies, plus two!
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Atreiden posted:The Alpha still doesn't even have one star system and they haven't been able to do monthly patches as they said they would at the start of the year. The apologist answer has been they only said they would try to do it. Which is fair enough I guess, but they still failed to achieve it.
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Atreiden posted:Man I love that a year after launching their so called Alpha, all CIG have managed to add is a couple of ships, the ability to buy pants and one new space-station. The Alpha still doesn't even have one star system and they haven't been able to do monthly patches as they said they would at the start of the year. Well, you see with all the background work on pipelines, items 2.0, persistence, and everything else content should start coming out much faster. Any day now. Yup, any day.
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Exinos posted:Well, you see with all the background work on pipelines, items 2.0, persistence, and everything else content should start coming out much faster. Production will really ramp up in
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Daztek posted:Production will really ramp up in What about coding, though?
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ArfJason posted:Alright. Wow your p ugly
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Ok so serious question about corporate structure. Any other game developer out there that also uses CIGs model of 10+ different entities conected through an intricate web of ownership and obfuscation? And I'm excluding the massive publishers like EA or Ubi, because they surely have both legitimate as well as illegitimate reasons for having a ton of subsidiaries.
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Erenthal posted:Ok so serious question about corporate structure. Ortwin is a Hollywood lawyer, I bet this stuff is pretty common in the sickening and heartbreaking entertainment industry
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Fargin Icehole posted:Goddamnit, this scam of a game just pisses me off, I don't see w The video of it is even better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpl1fP_1fOw
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his nibs posted:hello Hi! How are you? Oh gently caress I'm doxxing already aren't I? Can I pass this power on to someone else? Tijuana Bibliophile posted:In just one year, they've expanded player count from 0 to 16 and system count from 0 to 1. Now if we extrapolate these percentual improvements, Honestly if we only count the monthly patches they've managed this all in just five months of production. That's crazy! Technically crazy, if I can steal a little bit of the pizzazz from MoMA.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Ortwin is a Hollywood lawyer, I bet this stuff is pretty common in the sickening and heartbreaking entertainment industry
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Hey CIG... Your sound design is rear end. It sounds like a room of obese motherfuckers with chronic flatulence. Much like your studios, but it's still unforgivable. Here's some tips to crobble. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_zqpdwBr5w
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It still baffles me that they are STILL loving up the absolute basics in game design. This is poo poo that I, someone who is not a game designer, fully understands.
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ewe2 posted:Lmao even the mods are getting sick of the screaming. they better get use to it. It is down hill from here.
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Xaerael posted:It still baffles me that they are STILL loving up the absolute basics in game design. This is poo poo that I, someone who is not a game designer, fully understands. You clearly don't.........oh hang on.
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shrach posted:I'm not sure where you are getting those 75% figures from. You should check the links. Foundry 42 Ltd and Roberts Space Industries UK Ltd are both owned 100% by Cloud Imperium Games UK Ltd. RSI UK Ltd only has one share in issue for example. fuctifino pointed (on my Discord) out that CIG (UK) - the parent company - actually now owns 100% (not 75% as I posted earlier) of both F42 (UK) and RSI (UK). The filing is buried in the 10/15 and 10/13 filings for both companies. Which means that, just as I had posted awhile back, the execs had sold back their shares to the company, thus taking out a significant amount of wealth from the project. I wrote about this back in my July 2016 blog: quote:There are so many holes in this whole thing that the minute I even make public everything I know, I would no doubt have pretty much impeded on-going investigations. So we wait. But while we’re waiting, here’s a nugget. Please ask them if it’s true that: after they founded a studio (Foundry42-UK) to help develop this game, and Chris pulled in his brother and childhood friends in from another company to head it, that less than two years later, another subsidiary (associated with the project) then turned around and bought the company back from those very people. Thus taking out a significant amount of wealth out of the project and putting it into the pockets of those very friends and family. While still paying his brother Erin, what amounts to almost $250K in yearly salary; not including benefits or bonuses – which aren’t disclosed. Aside from this being reported to be almost 3x what he was making at his previous company, it’s also 2x the average for a director in the Manchester region. And in case you forgot, this is a crowd-funded project.
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hey thread, its been a long time, glad to see some familiar faces still honourably cataloguing this shitshow. the last big thing I remember was ticklegate, did CIG continue to top itself at being a shitshow? e: doing some reading up on it, they still haven't released 2.6 and some star citizens on the forums are excited for 3.0 which they think might come out before new year somehow (i thought this was an old post, but actually nope its from yesterday so they literally think 2 updates in the next 2 weeks is possible or likely for CIG...) also the "evocati" are under NDA so the PTU now has its own PTU hahaha? e2: oh, oh no. they're still doing the whole "next update gets the pipeline in place and then the content will just rush forth like sewage from a burst pipe!"... I kinda feel bad for the citizens at this point, nobody deserves this... maybe dickwulf deserves this. Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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nopantsjack posted:hey thread, its been a long time, glad to see some familiar faces still honourably cataloguing this shitshow. Believe it or not, there are actually quite a few who most certainly deserve it. If you choose not to, simply post in reddit with the title of "Why is 2.6 not out yet?" and gauge for yourself.
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nopantsjack posted:hey thread, its been a long time, glad to see some familiar faces still honourably cataloguing this shitshow. It's pretty awesome that there are Citizens who get excited because CIG will maybe manage to produce a wet fart after an 18-month bean diet.
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Whose excited to play some Star Marine today according to their on time internal schedule? I'm looking at you major tom. I assume you are a proud subscriber.
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D_Smart posted:https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08882924/persons-with-significant-control Yeah the control is "75% or more". In both those cases it is 100% which is more (To confirm, you can check the annual return filings at the same links). D_Smart posted:
I think that it's correct to. You have to consider these as the separate legal identities that they are. If you have a number of businesses buying and selling to each other, you wouldn't net any transactions off. The UK parent company (as part of the consolidated accounts) should disclose them as related party transactions though. POOL IS CLOSED posted:I think we're of the same mind on this. Does that make us the antipope of German auditors? Or are we both Smart now? I did get a D grade in German at GCSE which I think fails me on both counts. Derek's blog sometime posted:There are so many holes in this whole thing that the minute I even make public everything I know, I would no doubt have pretty much impeded on-going investigations. So we wait. But while we’re waiting, here’s a nugget. Please ask them if it’s true that: after they founded a studio (Foundry42-UK) to help develop this game, and Chris pulled in his brother and childhood friends in from another company to head it, that less than two years later, another subsidiary (associated with the project) then turned around and bought the company back from those very people. Thus taking out a significant amount of wealth out of the project and putting it into the pockets of those very friends and family. While still paying his brother Erin, what amounts to almost $250K in yearly salary; not including benefits or bonuses – which aren’t disclosed. Aside from this being reported to be almost 3x what he was making at his previous company, it’s also 2x the average for a director in the Manchester region. And in case you forgot, this is a crowd-funded project. We'll see how much they paid for the company when they file the parent company accounts. The benefits are included in the accounts, though. I doubt there are any company cars and such in the UK companies though. That would be an American thing, it's very rare to see in a UK company these days. The correct way to handle travel is for a director to own the car personally and then charge the company per mile used. Check out P11D benefits if you are interested (you're not). shrach fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Hopper posted:Are you saying they have a company in Greece? Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine but if you mean Frankfurt, that's in DE.
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This is hilarious, they basically expect the Star Citizen NPCs to be the robots from Westworld.
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Randarkman posted:This is hilarious, they basically expect the Star Citizen NPCs to be the robots from Westworld. spoiler: it never works out
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Xaerael posted:Hey CIG... Your sound design is rear end. It sounds like a room of obese motherfuckers with chronic flatulence. Much like your studios, but it's still unforgivable. Was literally just thinking that they obviously don't have a sound team
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peter gabriel posted:2.6 won't come out this year and if it does I will eat my own arse Live stream it, you'll get more views than anything sc ever produced.
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Xaerael posted:Hey CIG... Your sound design is rear end. It sounds like a room of obese motherfuckers with chronic flatulence. Much like your studios, but it's still unforgivable. I tried to think about CIG doing something as well as Blizzard does but then I started laughing and didn't stop until I was dead.
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Beet Wagon posted:I tried to think about CIG doing something as well as Blizzard does but then I started laughing and didn't stop until I was dead. Rockstar might be able to come close.
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