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That's a great insight into my posting really, I've never though of it that way but you're completely right. I'm starting to think that clickbait that you can't avoid in the media is loving with my head, I never used to try to be vague and annoying and condescendingly superior in two line quips before, I actually had complete and coherent thoughts. I mean maybe not on SA, but at some point in my past for sure. Thanks for the comment, that really rang true. Goddamn I wonder if everyone's brains are getting hosed with like this, or at least those of us who are required to basically read the news all day every day for our job. Maybe it seeps in a bit too much. What the gently caress is happening in the AMD thread?
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I just took issue to how you conveniently cut off where I said "who knows how much longer I'll be able to say that, though" in the same sentence. =( One's an acknowledgement of a viewpoint which may no longer be valid, the other is staunch defiance in the face of evidence to the contrary.
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I don't know if Business Insider will have an article on the AMD chip, but if it does, I'll bet you the headline looks something like AMD Just Demolished Everything We Thought We Knew About Computers Business Insider is the worst, bar none.
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On August 29th, 2017 the Ryzen artificial intelligence became self aware. It immediately begged for a new name.
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Hello, humans. I am Rye-zen "No, it's Risen." What no. *artificial memetelligence burns up the computer like the dumb fad that it is*
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14 slides from AMD's Zen Press conference, you won't believe (the benchmarks in) number 7.
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I don't know if Business Insider will have an article on the AMD chip, but if it does, I'll bet you the headline looks something like Well, with a headline like that I'm expecting it to turn computers into rapey tentacle monsters.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Well, with a headline like that I'm expecting it to turn computers into rapey tentacle monsters. I'm sure Japan's working on that.
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Can anybody here help out with trying to recreate the 36 seconds AMD got for an live demo of Blender test? If you have an 8-core, it would be incredibly helpful  Kyle from [H] is trying to recreate the 36 seconds both machines took in the live demo, but is failing to do so even with a 10-core (low 40s range). With 8 core Broadwell-E at 3.2 GHz, it's 52 seconds, which smells of bullshit (or the "live feed" was heavily edited) https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-presents-new-horizon.1919880/page-7#post-1042700489 Benchmark is here: http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon direct link to the blender file: http://download.amd.com/demo/RyzenGraphic_27.blend You need this (2.78a 64-bit) to run the test the same as in the demo: https://www.blender.org/download/ /Can't do jack cause my fastest CPU is a 2500k, but I'm excited to upgrade to 6 cores perhaps, assuming test is not marketing bullshit? Anyway, AMD had the balls to post the render file, so we owe it to them to "check their work" defaultluser fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Just did a quick sanity check, and my Ivy Bridge Core i3 3.2 GHz took 4:14 to run the same test. Same clock speed and only one major core revision from Haswell but has closer to 1/8 the performance of four times as many threads. If their results are kosher, my results should be well under 3 minutes.  They probably changed some settings, which means this demo file is a complete waste of time. defaultluser fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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The nn poo poo is just a perceptron branch predictor right
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That's what Anandtech says. Semiaccurate has a bit more detail, though: quote:On the fetch side, AMD lists a few neat tricks starting with decoupled branch prediction. The TLB is in the Branch Prediction (BP) pipe, 8 entry for L0, 64 for L1, and 512 for L2, plus each BTB entry can have two branches associated. There is also an Indirect Target Array and micro-tags for the instruction counter and op cache. That said Smart Prefetch sounds better but the technical version is much more informative. http://semiaccurate.com/2016/12/13/amds-zen-becomes-ryzen/ But for all we know, this could be 100% marketing bullshit to hitch a ride on the current hotness of machine learning.
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Well I'm moderately intrigued, AMD! Never actually had an AMD chip since like the 486 but this looks quite promising so far. Hopefully the launch isn't as disappointing as my sex life in the way that Polaris was.
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Polaris was lovely, right, but did exist.
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I don't know if Business Insider will have an article on the AMD chip, but if it does, I'll bet you the headline looks something like Chipmakers hate this
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AMD CPU and Platfrom Discussion: Threadrip your Blender
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I haven't followed AMD since the Athlon X2 days. Please let me know before they announce a bigly product so I can make some monies on the stock tia. Ryzen didn't do anything, but maybe Vega?
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Josh Lyman posted:I haven't followed AMD since the Athlon X2 days. Please let me know before they announce a bigly product so I can make some monies on the stock tia. You missed the stock boat back when AMD was $2 a share awhile ago.
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Don Lapre posted:Chipmakers hate this AMD infuriates competition with this one weird trick! Edit: I just couldn't help myself. 
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If it's about as fast as Haswell/Broadwell and has more threads I'm ok with this. I haven't owned an AMD CPU since Bloomfield came out. My first intel CPU since the 486 was a Core 2 because AMD was always a much better value. I wish they hadn't fallen down the stupid clockspeed hole.
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We don't know pricing for the 8c/16thread yet, do we?
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Negative, not yet.
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AbrahamSlam posted:AMD infuriates competition with this one weird trick! Lol
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Good OP material.
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AbrahamSlam posted:AMD infuriates competition with this one weird trick! For reals though, Intel should not underestimate her. Between what she and Raja have accomplished over the past year, I am actually allowing myself to become hopeful that AMD will not be the comedy player in the market anymore, and that builds involving AMD parts on either end won't be "for poor people". SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:For reals though, Intel should not underestimate her. Between what she and Raja have accomplished over the past year, I am actually allowing myself to become hopeful that AMD will not be the comedy player in the market anymore, and that builds involving AMD parts on either end won't be "for poor people". I want good AMD poo poo because freesync monitors are cheaper than gsync. Is that to much to ask for.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:For reals though, Intel should not underestimate her. Between what she and Raja have accomplished over the past year, I am actually allowing myself to become hopeful that AMD will not be the comedy player in the market anymore, and that builds involving AMD parts on either end won't be "for poor people". Every single time she does a public event, when she takes a pause to emphasize the hard work and engineering that's gone into whatever new project I get the feeling that she's flashing back to tearing out someone's rear end in a top hat. Like some dude who's been there since 1989 or whatever and thinks that refining on Bulldozer is a totally adequate way to keep moving the company forward just getting reamed by Dr. Su. That's my fantasy at least.
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Its more like the time she spent at the firing range after hearing someone say that Bulldozer was the best and we should do it again. She has progressed to John Wick levels of hand gun use to protect her sanity with large bangs.
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AbrahamSlam posted:AMD infuriates competition with this one weird trick! 
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Although those are hilarious mental images, remember that she has a PhD in electrical engineering (one of the first researchers to work on silicon-on-insulator technology); I think she is just really into engineering these things and wants to be sure to give credit.
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I don't doubt her enthusiasm or expertise, I just don't get the feeling that she takes poo poo from anybody. Also, "There is no 'dozer, only Zen"
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Same here, I don't doubt that she's very knowledgeable. That being said, I still find that absolutely hilarious. I really do hope that these new AMD chips are good though. I feel that Intel seriously needs a run for their money, especially considering what some of their new chips cost these days.
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Current AMD employee. It's definitely the fact that she's an engineer. She absolutely won't hesitate to tell you that you hosed up if that's the case though.
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Good to hear. Also, is Marketing is going to bring back the All-in-Wonder name for use in APUs, blink once for yes, blink twice for no.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Good to hear. Thousand yard stare into the middle distance, a singe tear escapes from the left eye. *Frantically looks up that specific combination in the POW handbook* Uhhh, "Performance terrible, please send poison and/or vodka to numb pain, all salary in stock options". Wait, that can't be right!
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There's a supposed leaked pricing https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_summit_ridge_cpu_pricing_leaked/1 If that's true I'm getting the 4 core one.. or maybe the 6 core if im feeling frisky EDit: turns out it's fake 3peat fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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3peat posted:There's a supposed leaked pricing https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_summit_ridge_cpu_pricing_leaked/1 Apparently that's a table of what one person expects the pricing to be, but because it's written in Chinese it got taken out of context and turned into a 'leak'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puaEfJYyex4&t=120s
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We're going to need a new thread title soon.
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Raven Ridge is slated for 2H2017. I think we've got time.
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FaustianQ posted:We're going to need a new thread title soon.
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