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Lurdiak posted:I found the one dude who thinks Epilogue improves Batman Beyond instead of ruining it. What a world. Even older and crankier soup-making Bruce Wayne is the best. "Where the devil have you been?"
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This is all awful. 2016 is the worst year
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CapnAndy posted:The JLU episode? It totally does, fight me son. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MduM0SCXlqM&t=25s
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Dec 14, 2016 19:33
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Mr Hootington posted:This is all awful. 2016 is the worst year Yeah, it's like the first half of Final Crisis. 2016: The Year Evil Won.
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Dec 14, 2016 19:39
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You really wanna do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOooJW5SSDA
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Mad Stan was by far the best Batman Beyond villain
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Roth posted:Mad Stan was by far the best Batman Beyond villain Mad Stan got his own episode later on due to that segment being so popular and it was loving awful. Batman Beyond had a single good villain in Blight, and maybe the Jokerz, and the rest was crap or just classic Batman rogues returning. It was one of the things that keeps the show from being amazing, despite the incredibly strong dynamic between Terry and Bruce. Most of the time Terry'd fight a one and done monster of the week or something really ill-conceived and unmemorable like Curare. I doubt there's a single person out there who's favorite DC villain is Inque or Spellbinder or loving Big Time. Even the Royal Flush gang was only compelling because of the relationship drama with 10.
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I liked Spellbinder... Outside of that, though, yeah, it wasn't a great assemblage of villains. The Jokerz and Blight were good, but the Jokerz were just two bit mooks for flavor and Blight was totally Norman Osborne. But the one shots were great.
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Dec 14, 2016 21:40
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I liked Inque, and Talia/R'as had potential.
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CapnAndy posted:I liked Inque, and Talia/R'as had potential. The latter is obviously counted in returning villains from the old show, just like Tim Drake Joker doesn't count as an original villain.
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Lurdiak posted:Mad Stan got his own episode later on due to that segment being so popular and it was loving awful. Batman Beyond had a single good villain in Blight, and maybe the Jokerz, and the rest was crap or just classic Batman rogues returning. It was one of the things that keeps the show from being amazing, despite the incredibly strong dynamic between Terry and Bruce. Most of the time Terry'd fight a one and done monster of the week or something really ill-conceived and unmemorable like Curare. I doubt there's a single person out there who's favorite DC villain is Inque or Spellbinder or loving Big Time. Even the Royal Flush gang was only compelling because of the relationship drama with 10. I think Blight was meant to be a sort of Dr Phosphorous adaptation with a slightly less silly name, too. The most memorable villains for me remain the four cyborg teenagers from "April Moon" because I will always remember the one scene where Terry activates the failsafe and one guy's arms and legs just break apart and fall off.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:18
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The best villain was Zeta, for inflicting The Zeta Project on the world.
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This new Jessica Jones series is starting to piss me off.
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Gaunab posted:This new Brian Michael Bendis series is starting to piss me off. Fixed that for you
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Rhyno posted:Fixed that for you God dammit, I'm on a 6 month delay because of unlimited, but I was digging Iron-Man and hoping it was a return to form and all the terrible things I heard about Civil War 2 through the grapevine was just because it was an event book and Marvel event books suck, but Bendis loving up Jessica Jones of all things is the worst news possible.
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Rhyno posted:Fixed that for you But you didn't change anything.
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Skwirl posted:God dammit, I'm on a 6 month delay because of unlimited, but I was digging Iron-Man and hoping it was a return to form and all the terrible things I heard about Civil War 2 through the grapevine was just because it was an event book and Marvel event books suck, but Bendis loving up Jessica Jones of all things is the worst news possible. I enjoy the Iron Man series. Of course the new ones with the new status quo just started, so it's a bit early to judge them, but the one before was fun when the CW II poo poo didn't interfere. Smarmy, helping Dr Doom is fun, when he drives Tony mad with his friendliness.
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Decius posted:I enjoy the Iron Man series. Of course the new ones with the new status quo just started, so it's a bit early to judge them, but the one before was fun when the CW II poo poo didn't interfere. Smarmy, helping Dr Doom is fun, when he drives Tony mad with his friendliness. CWII just started and I haven't actually read it yet. Marvel should really just make a commitment to not having a big event for 2 years. It gets you 24 issues for all of their main books where the creators can just go hog wild without worrying too much about anything else, and then the crossover would have greater impact. They're just an IP farm for Disney at this point anyway so embrace it and get weird.
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The good news is that we're less than a month out from the next big Marvel event introducing your new favourite character.
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Ghostlight posted:The good news is that we're less than a month out from the next big Marvel event introducing your new favourite character. Is Iron Man still a teenage black chick?
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Skwirl posted:God dammit, I'm on a 6 month delay because of unlimited, but I was digging Iron-Man and hoping it was a return to form and all the terrible things I heard about Civil War 2 through the grapevine was just because it was an event book and Marvel event books suck, but Bendis loving up Jessica Jones of all things is the worst news possible. Bendis event books suck.
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Dec 15, 2016 11:23
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Fear Itself was written by Matt Fraction
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irlZaphod posted:Marvel event books don't suck. They absolutely do. Hickman was somehow immune to the curse is all.
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Dec 15, 2016 12:17
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Infinity and Secret Wars were both great. In general Event Books (from both the Big Two) are pretty trash, aside from a small number of exceptions. Bendis ones in particular are usually pretty bad though.
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How is the new Jessic Jones book bad? Let me take a wild stab. Her and Luke are separated and the baby isn't around? And it is kinda cringe worthy that marvel's next event is right around the corner, but this event actually sounds fun.
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The best event Marvel has had was Infinity Gauntlet back in 1990-91(ish).
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Mr Hootington posted:How is the new Jessic Jones book bad? Let me take a wild stab. Her and Luke are separated and the baby isn't around? Kid's still around mostly, but yes, the former is correct. There may be a twist as the first arc introduced the idea of people from alternate realities or having the memories from other realities in the MU. The other big reveal is the villain is the lady from CW2 with the empty briefcase. Surprise, she's now an evil mastermind, which defeats the purpose of a plot point Bendis himself created AND doesn't achieve what I think he wants it to (making Carol 'right all along') because she's only seeking revenge because of what happened in Civil War.
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Gaz-L posted:Kid's still around mostly, but yes, the former is correct. There may be a twist as the first arc introduced the idea of people from alternate realities or having the memories from other realities in the MU. Well I'm glad he did the one thing that would make the book bad. Keeping that tradition of blowing up marriages in comics alive. The second paragraph means nothing to me expect cw2 is bad from what I read, so being connected to cw2 is also bad.
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irlZaphod posted:Marvel event books don't suck. I highly doubt you can prove that.
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Secret Wars was such a good event that after it got started people didn't really bitch much about the regular ongoings being put on hiatus. Convergence disrupted books for two months, and everyone went nuts because it was so bad.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Secret Wars was such a good event that after it got started people didn't really bitch much about the regular ongoings being put on hiatus. Convergence disrupted books for two months, and everyone went nuts because it was so bad. Many of the SW minis were better than the books they replaced.
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The books were going to be disrupted because of the DC's move, Convergence was what they did to cover up the gap.
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Rhyno posted:Many of the SW minis were better than the books they replaced. It was a very happy coincidence that i started getting into comics when sw was happening because the strength of most of those minis was what made me willing to keep following marvel after the event was done
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Rhyno posted:Many of the SW minis were better than the books they replaced. That is very true. I'm going to give it like a year, but I'm excited to reread all the tie ins. I read the hardcover when it came out, and the reordering of some scenes near the end wasn't anything major, but it helped the third act flow better.
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I loved Convergence for the two-shots. You had no fuckin' idea what anything coming out was. A half handful were amazing, and others were bizarre and 'off' enough that they were just as good. Convergence: Atom read like fuckin' Stardust: The Super Wizard. I found two months of that really fun.
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Open Marriage Night posted:That is very true. I'm going to give it like a year, but I'm excited to reread all the tie ins. I read the hardcover when it came out, and the reordering of some scenes near the end wasn't anything major, but it helped the third act flow better. I'm hoping they do a SW omnibus of all the minis at some point. Two volumes would do the job.
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Mr Hootington posted:Well I'm glad he did the one thing that would make the book bad. Keeping that tradition of blowing up marriages in comics alive. I actually don't hate the book. Gaydos' art is still perfect for it, and Bendis does seem to be going somewhere with the Luke and Jessica thing (the last issue opened with a bizarre and clearly foreshadowing dream sequence). It's very in keeping with the Jessica Jones: Massive Self-sabotaging Fuckup from the early issues of Alias.
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Gaz-L posted:I actually don't hate the book. Gaydos' art is still perfect for it, and Bendis does seem to be going somewhere with the Luke and Jessica thing (the last issue opened with a bizarre and clearly foreshadowing dream sequence). It's very in keeping with the Jessica Jones: Massive Self-sabotaging Fuckup from the early issues of Alias. Gaydos is back? God his art is gross.
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Gaz-L posted:It's very in keeping with the Jessica Jones: Massive Self-sabotaging Fuckup from the early issues of Alias.
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CapnAndy posted:That's why it's rubbing me the wrong way, though. It seems to be tossing years of character development (that Bendis wrote himself, for fucksakes!) to revert her back to Alias state, because that's how she was in the TV show and the TV show was popular. That's absolutely what's going on and it bothers me as well. They did the same thing to Star-Lord.
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