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Taffer posted:considering how loudly everyone is screaming about this i expect it'll be added within a couple days valve not only never made grid view the default for hero select (as it always should have been) but never even put in the option for you to set it as default.
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You guys are insane. Monkey King is as good as a farmed undying with mobility items. He can't carry, seems like he's completely irrelevant at like 40 minutes in even with an insane amount of farm. He's a great team fighter, initiator, and clean up, though.
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Groovelord Neato posted:valve not only never made grid view the default for hero select (as it always should have been) but never even put in the option for you to set it as default.
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emdash posted:congrats to Kevin "Purge" Godec on ASMR fetish fame https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5ib86b/purges_patch_notes_video_got_posted_in_the_asmr/ I wish we could go back to pre 7.00 and that someone could come from the future and say the next dota patch from purge will last longer than a drive from lands end to john o' groats
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Incoherence posted:Well, good news, now it is the only option. (Even for modes where the card view sort of made sense like SD.) And they fixed the sorting to make sense to people who haven't played Dota 2 since 2012. *does the arsenio hall thing but saying "woot" instead*
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Dec 14, 2016 20:06
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Andrast posted:How does not getting along with Artour make ppd the problem? At least they actually managed to win stuff with him captaining. being completely unlikable makes it hard to stay on teams, even if you draft real good
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Why is DC in China? I don't see them on the WCA team list or anything else
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emdash posted:Why is DC in China? I don't see them on the WCA team list or anything else They are in this tournament I have never heard of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/China_Top/2016
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Bonnono posted:They are in this tournament I have never heard of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/China_Top/2016 oh. Well that explains this then: https://twitter.com/MoonMeanderated/status/809105834869329920
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Up Circle posted:being completely unlikable makes it hard to stay on teams, even if you draft real good But Artour doesn't even draft real good? 96 spacejam posted:https://www.monsterenergy.com/evil-genius/the-rise-of-an-evil-genius  at this post
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Up Circle posted:being completely unlikable makes it hard to stay on teams, even if you draft real good ppd was on EG for a long-rear end time with some players playing with him for years so obviously he can't be that terrible especially considering EG was one the most stable dota 2 teams roster wise with him.
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Chair In A Basket posted:it is truly a shame that AFs win at the Boylston major, and the actions of the vile villan Macine, will all be forgotten in the dota 7 haze. great now fake news is invading dota2
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ZionestLord posted:pretty cool how that's not even remotely close to true ? its a large aoe spell that lets the hero what cast it right click enemies in an aoe unless they leave that aoe, which is what rikis is also. except that monkey king can still use his regular right click and also his spells and also its bigger and also it gives more free bonus damage and i think lasts longer?
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Ojetor posted:Observer wards. Place them on high ground. I don't think the issue with MK is vision at all, but rather every other thing. He's a ridiculously strong laner that later on runs around blowing up people instantly. He's Ursa except he doesn't fall off and has actual utility: a huge range stun, a decent mobility skill and giant aoe ult that will destroy anyone unfortunate enough to get caught in it. All the rest of his abilities can be scaled, so at the moment i consider them completely broke, but things that can be scaled with patches to reduce damage or crit or whatever. The wards thing is great, but only in the areas where you can place elevated wards. So, two places in each side jungle. Any fight that happens outside of that, or in lane most importantly, you won't have vision unless you have a hero scouting with flying. Versus say Riki or Bounty, you just drop sentries to protect yourself. With Monkey you don't really have that defense. Not saying it can't be changed, but I think its broken at the idea level, instead of just needing stats tweaked. Also the fact it gives him flying vision as well. All the cool pro plays where you juked people through the trees and escaped to TP out, or dodge an opponent's vision to pull out a kill by a hair's breadth. He defeats that. Just keep scouting along waiting to ambush the split push or keep people from ambushing you. The flexibility of information it provides is similar to Nightstalker's Aghs. That's my problem with it. Rest of the stuff you can fix with tweaks to numbers, but getting the equivalent of a 3 second blink, invisibility when on a tree, chasing potential, and flying vision ala Nightstalker Aghs is a bit much to me in one skill. Its cool, but it needs a review. Or, it has a weakness I haven't seen yet. And I don't think merely cutting down his tree is it yet.
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Andrast posted:ppd was on EG for a long-rear end time with some players playing with him for years so obviously he can't be that terrible especially considering EG was one the most stable dota 2 teams roster wise with him. like zai and universe right arteezy?? aui probably isn't a big fan of him, not that aui got to vote him off or anything mason too but lol at mason this thread always acts so confounded that ppd isn't playing for eg still idgi whats he good at besides drafting??
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mikeraskol posted:I think you're overrating this a little bit. It's very good if the enemy has no idea where you are, but if they do they are going to cut down your tree, stun you for 4 seconds and you are dead. It's also not a free blink, it goes on CD when you take damage from a hero. The one way in which tree jump is unequivocally amazing (and nearly unique) is being able to jump => E as soon as you hit the tree for close to a 2000 range blink as long as there is a tree in the middle. Obviously it's not instantanous movement but if you see a gank coming you can get the gently caress out of dodge very quickly, especially since after using E you can jump up into another tree fairly soon for a sweet 3000 units of movement in ~1.5-2 seconds.
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Up Circle posted:like zai and universe right Being the heel and  .
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Up Circle posted:like zai and universe right If players leaving a team means that the captain is bad then literally every single captain in pro dota is awful. If he is so awful to play with how did he keep EG going as a stable strong team for a long-rear end time when the average age for a dota team is like three months? Most of the players you listed played with him for like years which is loving forever in pro dota. Andrast fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Andrast posted:If players leaving a team means that the captain is bad then literally every single captain in pro dota is awful. If he is so awful to play with how did he keep EG going as a stable strong team for a long-rear end time when the average age for a dota team is like three months? PPD was the best player on EG.
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Don't get me wrong, ppd was fine at what he did: drafting, presumably calling the shots in-game, and taking up a near-zero amount of farm so that any contribution he made was a big plus. He still got bumped so that the current "goon squad" could have a shot under the EG name, and the rumor (that has never been soundly debunked afaik) is that he was voted out. It's implausible that this had to do with results, leaving chemistry the big remaining factor. Results don't fix bad chemistry long-term. You can put up with bad chemistry for good results for a bit (see: win TI5 then kick Aui). You can ruin good chemistry with bad results (I worry this may be happening with EG completely unable to touch OG in four straight series). But there are no examples of winning, even on the biggest stage, causing a team that has chemistry problems to stay together. In fact teams consistently win big and then shuffle anyway. People should not be surprised by it emdash fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Up Circle posted:like zai and universe right playing a position 9 support while still being relevant to the game e yeah ^^^^ shotcalling too
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There is some serious revisionist history and theorizing based on no information going on in this thread at the moment
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*Leads team to three straight top three TI finishes, including one win* IDGI what does he do?
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emdash posted:Don't get me wrong, ppd was fine at what he did: drafting, presumably calling the shots in-game, and taking up a near-zero amount of farm so that any contribution he made was a big plus. He still got bumped so that the current "goon squad" could have a shot under the EG name, and the rumor (that has never been soundly debunked afaik) is that he was voted out. It's implausible that this had to do with results, leaving chemistry the big remaining factor. Sure. It's pretty likely that ppd as voted out or left because of team chemistry reasons but that doesn't mean it's his (or anyone else's) fault like some people love proclaiming. Sometimes team chemistry just doesn't work and/or the players want to try something different but that doesn't mean it's anyone's fault. rtz still isn't winning a valve event though.
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mikeraskol posted:*Leads team to three straight top three TI finishes, including one win* Some of it no doubt goes back to what I posted about people overvaluing cores and undervaluing supports. PPD doesn't get the Big Frags and the Big Farm.
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Up Circle posted:like zai and universe right aui is playing with Envy again despite like 100% of Cloud 9 so let's not get too hasty.
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I think you have to play support to be a good captain. As a carry you have to focus on maximizing your farm and not getting ganked.
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RisqueBarber posted:I think you have to play support to be a good captain. As a carry you have to focus on maximizing your farm and not getting ganked. I think EE has actually been doing very good as a captain despite being a high impact (whether its impact for him or other team :clown9:) core.
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Support is a thankless loving job, I tell you what.
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https://gfycat.com/DizzyFatherlyFireant why Kild fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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I agree. Why? Why are you posting a massive image about a bug with a UI they are patching four times a day that will obviously be fixed as soon as its identified?
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Andrast posted:If players leaving a team means that the captain is bad then literally every single captain in pro dota is awful. If he is so awful to play with how did he keep EG going as a stable strong team for a long-rear end time when the average age for a dota team is like three months? is that a stat can you back up that terrible stat
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mikeraskol posted:*Leads team to three straight top three TI finishes, including one win* yeah but like, so did puppey, and look at him now
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mikeraskol posted:*Leads team to three straight top three TI finishes, including one win* this is what i mean he had 4 great players on his teams every year puppey did the same thing no team has stayed relevant after winning ti, why would it be that crazy for them to rebuild the roster no offense meant, since ppd means alot to you, but he was the weakest player on the team every time, even if he was the best drafter and probably the shotcaller in game too
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Up Circle posted:no team has stayed relevant after winning ti
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Up Circle posted:this is what i mean Nobody is saying it's crazy to rebuild the roster. Frankly I don't even know what your point is anymore. My only two points were that (i) to take a quote from an article where PPD says there were issues between him and Artour and say that means it was PPD's fault shows brain damage, and (ii) saying you don't know what PPD did for EG also demonstrates some sort of cognitive problem. It doesn't matter how good your other 4 are, you aren't getting top 3 or winning a TI without being a world class player at whatever your role was. For PPD it was drafting, shot calling and enabling greedy lineups by playing poverty support yet still having an impact. It's weird to me that you say "even if he was the best drafter and probably the shotcaller in game too." That's really loving important, a team can't work without that even if you have the best player at every other position. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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