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Wildcat Strike is a phrase only topped in beauty by General Strike.
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NumberLast posted:Unironically good movie. 
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semi-daily reminder to listen to Keith Ellisons podcast, which lays out problems we're facing as a country and how we can solve them https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/we-the-podcast/id958234911?mt=2 http://wethepodcast.podomatic.com/
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NumberLast posted:Wildcat Strike is a phrase only topped in beauty by General Strike. Don't forget sympathy strikes (also illegal).
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Dec 14, 2016 23:10
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NumberLast posted:Unironically good movie. I am a huge Cage fan and to my shame I haven't seen it because I just don't watch many movies
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Dec 14, 2016 23:11
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:glad to know that unions are in a healthy state in this country and that public anti-union sentiment is actually from republican mind-control and not anything union leadership has done. corruption isn't the same thing as incompetence, and lol just lol if you think anti-union sentiment in this country has not been deliberately incubated since the 1940s (and earlier, really) really, to say 'union density is really just the unions own fault!' is basically 100% the GOP/chamber of commerce talking point for the past several decades
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Dec 14, 2016 23:11
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man id settle for hearing the words "a strike that accomplished its goals" at this point
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paranoid randroid posted:man id settle for hearing the words "a strike that accomplished its goals" at this point the verizon strike 6 months ago was pretty successful
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Dec 14, 2016 23:13
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Bushido Brown posted:Like, maybe, just maybe, one of the major problems beyond Hillary being awful in various ways is that unless and until you throw someone as miraculous as Barack Obama at it, Democrats, not Republicans, are demographically hosed and not in line with the electoral-majority viewpoint. People seem to have this massive psychic block when it comes to the majority of the United States electorate being white. They keep hoping that rather than learn to deal with this fact they can rely on demographics as destiny, but the real sad thing is Latin communities are super diverse and many of them are merging into 'white identity' the same way the Irish, Poles, Germans and etc did. Democrats desperately need to work out ways to appeal to the majority while also not reflexively throwing the minority under the bus. Like, you can be pro-women's rights *and* pro-economic development. They aren't mutually exclusive. Likewise you advocate for black community revitalization *and* UHC at the same time. Somewhere people got it into their heads that progress is zero sum, and doing anything for one group necessarily involves betraying some other group. And then that dumb idea infected discourse in general.
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paranoid randroid posted:no i mean i mean above-and-beyond their usual fuckups. they have to basically condense six years of GWB into two for 2018 to start looking particularly rosy for the dems i'm not optimistic about this. i don't see the democrats replicating the success of the tea party, even with a younger and more streetwise electorate
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NumberLast posted:Unironically good movie. Speed Racer was a good movie and if anyone thinks otherwise I'm going to frown real hard
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I honked and thumbs-upped some of these strikers while driving past them, and felt very good about my coastal liberal elite self
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Dec 14, 2016 23:15
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Not a Step posted:People seem to have this massive psychic block when it comes to the majority of the United States electorate being white. They keep hoping that rather than learn to deal with this fact they can rely on demographics as destiny, but the real sad thing is Latin communities are super diverse and many of them are merging into 'white identity' the same way the Irish, Poles, Germans and etc did. Democrats desperately need to work out ways to appeal to the majority while also not reflexively throwing the minority under the bus. Like, you can be pro-women's rights *and* pro-economic development. They aren't mutually exclusive. Likewise you advocate for black community revitalization *and* UHC at the same time. Some might say you should advocate for universal social advancement, encompassing civil liberty and economic justice. A sort of social...ist ideology, if you will.
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Not a Step posted:Speed Racer was a good movie and if anyone thinks otherwise I'm going to frown real hard It was actual live action anime. He did it. Trump did it.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:17
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I was just about to bring that one up. There's a Verizon facility I used to run by regularly when I was living in metro Boston and I stopped to talk to the strikers on the picket line (I'm in UUP). I found it encouraging both that the workers appear to have gotten a settlement that favors them, and also when Vz was trying to hire scabs they got significant pushback and their recruitment ads got defaced all over the place. Not a Step posted:Speed Racer was a good movie and if anyone thinks otherwise I'm going to frown real hard I did not care for it.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:17
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theflyingexecutive posted:She did a billion of these and got zero attention She should have done ANY events that weren't $10,000 plate fundraisers with rich donors also maybe had a platform that appealed to working americans I mean look at this poo poo, right here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.39c423d139b3
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Dec 14, 2016 23:21
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Somebody upthread said something about Sanders and Ellison doing a future of the dnc thing tonight but I can't find it again. Is that happening? Anyone have any info on that? Also speed racer was good 
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Dec 14, 2016 23:21
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I did not care for it. I'm frownin'. My wife can't watch it because the visual effects give her migraines. Same thing happened when we went to see Dredd. I am forever alone in my love for a visually gorgeous real life anime.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:22
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I was just about to bring that one up. There's a Verizon facility I used to run by regularly when I was living in metro Boston and I stopped to talk to the strikers on the picket line (I'm in UUP). i remember the vz strikes in boston too, there was a building somewhere round seaport that had strikers in front of it for a good few weeks. glad to hear things went relatively well for them i just hope boston, and massachusetts, stays safe.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:23
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Not a Step posted:I'm frownin'. My wife can't watch it because the visual effects give her migraines. Same thing happened when we went to see Dredd. I am forever alone in my love for a visually gorgeous real life anime. Dredd was also very good.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:23
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big black turnout posted:Somebody upthread said something about Sanders and Ellison doing a future of the dnc thing tonight but I can't find it again. Is that happening? Anyone have any info on that? https://ourrevolution.com
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Pollyanna posted:i remember the vz strikes in boston too, there was a building somewhere round seaport that had strikers in front of it for a good few weeks. glad to hear things went relatively well for them One time when I went by (this was in Wakefield, not downtown) there was a cop talking to the picketers, but he was clearly just bored of watching the road crew across the street and wanted someone new to talk to. Closest thing to drama I noticed during that strike. I do kinda miss Boston though I've only been gone a little over a month now, but I don't miss how goddamn expensive everything has gotten there.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:28
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Not a Step posted:People seem to have this massive psychic block when it comes to the majority of the United States electorate being white. They keep hoping that rather than learn to deal with this fact they can rely on demographics as destiny, but the real sad thing is Latin communities are super diverse and many of them are merging into 'white identity' the same way the Irish, Poles, Germans and etc did. Democrats desperately need to work out ways to appeal to the majority while also not reflexively throwing the minority under the bus. Like, you can be pro-women's rights *and* pro-economic development. They aren't mutually exclusive. Likewise you advocate for black community revitalization *and* UHC at the same time. It wasn't an accident that economic identity politics has been excluded from mainstream conversations about racial and gender identity politics.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:29
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Not a Step posted:People seem to have this massive psychic block when it comes to the majority of the United States electorate being white. They keep hoping that rather than learn to deal with this fact they can rely on demographics as destiny, but the real sad thing is Latin communities are super diverse and many of them are merging into 'white identity' the same way the Irish, Poles, Germans and etc did. Democrats desperately need to work out ways to appeal to the majority while also not reflexively throwing the minority under the bus. Like, you can be pro-women's rights *and* pro-economic development. They aren't mutually exclusive. Likewise you advocate for black community revitalization *and* UHC at the same time. This is literally the opposite of my point, though. I am saying there isn't a silent mass of voters who will vote dem if you speak to economic problems. I am saying that barring Barry O level charisma, wit, and charm, maybe it's hard to get folks to sign onto democratic/leftist ideas. People voted for Obama despite the liberalism, not because of it.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:30
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its really hard to have economic identity when the entire economy of the united states is predicated on 80% of the population driving themselves into tremendous debt to prove they arent poor
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Dec 14, 2016 23:32
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Perhaps the same can be said of all capitalist economies! But enough talk, have at you!
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Dec 14, 2016 23:32
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Mankind I'll needs a president such as Trump
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Dec 14, 2016 23:35
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Bushido Brown posted:This is literally the opposite of my point, though. WRONG.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:36
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Ace of Baes posted:What people are arguing in this thread: Tom Perez is running as a factional bid to retain control of the DNC structure for the current power brokers/players and him defeating Keith Ellison would signal that the democratic party is rejecting the concept that the changes that need to be made are structural and idealogicial, versus technical.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:36
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remember the presidential avatar trend and posters had non-Nixon avs? We need to think like influencers, and strut around with Democrats of ol'
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Dec 14, 2016 23:37
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Bushido Brown posted:This is literally the opposite of my point, though.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:38
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Isnt bernie or keith speaking tonight about something
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Dec 14, 2016 23:38
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Ugh wow more of Bernie's full communism now platform. Sorry dipshit, AMERICA DOESN'T WANT THAT.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:38
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Uncle Wemus posted:Isnt bernie or keith speaking tonight about something https://twitter.com/OurRevolution/status/809160306446372865
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Dec 14, 2016 23:39
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Bushido Brown posted:This is literally the opposite of my point, though. I think this election *has* proved pretty conclusively that there is a vast Democratic voting group out there who will *only* show up if you speak to their economic concerns, and nothing else - no amount of crying about the racist sexist clown man or their civic duty to minorities - will get them to turn up at the polls. *Or* only the charisma of Bill and Barry could do it, in which case we're hosed because we're fresh out of them, so embrace a thousand years of Trump. I know which story I'd rather believe. E: Maybe youre one of those people who think since Hillary had a progressive platform and lost that means progressive platforms are busted? The thing there is that Hillary didn't campaign on that platform and very few really trusted her to carry it out even if elected. This is the candidate who screamed on stage that UHC would NEVER EVER HAPPEN. No one forgot that just because Bernie won some concessions at the Convention. Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 23:43 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Bushido Brown posted:This is literally the opposite of my point, though. "Voters will forgive you for disagreeing with them so long as they know that you genuinely believe what you are saying and that you include them in your plans. They may disagree with you on your policy, but if they know that you believe that because you want to help them, then they'll vote for you." -- Jason Kander
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Not a Step posted:I think this election *has* proved pretty conclusively that there is a vast Democratic voting group out there who will *only* show up if you speak to their economic concerns, and nothing else - no amount of crying about the racist sexist clown man or their civic duty to minorities - will get them to turn up at the polls. a huge portion of that group aren't even democrats. bernie crushed it with nonaffiliated/independents in the primary.
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