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a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

CherryCat posted:

Wow, not gonna lie but JJ's performance made me tear up, poor dude.

Same, I can't believe JJ!! On ICE is going to end in tragedy.

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Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


I still haven't watched but couldn't help myself and saw spoilers and oh god please is jj just loving falling all over the place while his theme plays because I'll die from secondhand embarrassment

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

It's cool, dude, JJ didn't fall a single time.

Adelheid
Mar 29, 2010

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

I still haven't watched but couldn't help myself and saw spoilers and oh god please is jj just loving falling all over the place while his theme plays because I'll die from secondhand embarrassment

there's nothing embarrassing about this episode of JJ's Bizarre Adventure: JJ!!! on ICE. no embarassment, only tragedy

a computer ghost
May 30, 2011

an unhackable cat???
It's (not) JJ time :canada:

The_Doctor posted:

Oh god, the post credits bit. What does it meeeeeean? :ohdear:

It better be something like, "and by ending it I mean the whole skating thing, let's retire and go raise some adorable big ol' poodles together and let Yurio take over as Hot poo poo on Ice."

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde
I'm leaning towards him noticing that Victor misses skating so he only wants to end the coaching relationship.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
This episode was so drat nerve racking, and if it's just to up the tension before victory I'm 100% for it but god I'm dying everyone.

VivaLa Eeveelution
Apr 3, 2011

drat, JJ choked harder than Makkachin.

And worst case scenario is that Yuuri wants to retire with Victor and raise poodles in Hasetsu while coaching Yurio, who insists they're both pathetic and he's only there for the katsudon.

Best case is that he's been inspired by watching Victor watch the other skaters, and possibly by reading some dril tweets, because it'll turn out that he's all get on the rink and kick my rear end

Alopex
May 31, 2012

This is the sleeve I have chosen.
I'm not okay with that last line and I can't believe I have to wait a week to see what Victor has to say about it! Presumably they'll have an emotional breakdown at each other before the free skate because Yuri is the man who stole Victor from the world and he should be proud of that!

Also congratulations Plisetsky, everything went really well for him so he's not getting much commentary but he deserves it.

Soral
May 30, 2009

devtesla posted:

This episode was so drat nerve racking, and if it's just to up the tension before victory I'm 100% for it but god I'm dying everyone.

agreed, i felt like my dang heart was going to stop. coming off episode 10 and landing on this is such a rollercoaster.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
And there's only one episode left! With all the Free Skating sections to go too, how is it all going to fit?!

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



THAT ENDING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :gonk:

I'm likely going to be driving for hours next Wednesday so I'll be stressing out about not watching the finale as soon as I can... :emo:

a computer ghost
May 30, 2011

an unhackable cat???

The Deviations posted:

drat, JJ choked harder than Makkachin.

I'm the monster that laughed at this, I'm sorry Makkachin.

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



The_Doctor posted:

And there's only one episode left! With all the Free Skating sections to go too, how is it all going to fit?!

I think Kubo tweeted the OP and ED won't be in the next episode. Saves a good five minutes at least.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
The what?

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

As the only rep from NA... def had to pour a 40 for JJ... :canada:

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


I hate the world for making me cry over JJ

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



I wasn't that shocked by JJ choking because it seemed pretty well telegraphed. He got two golds AND has the highest base score to beat AND his whole FS is a giant masturbation session. More so than the guy who literally comes on the ice.

Basically it's a recipe for a fall. And for Yuuri to maybe have to cheer him up or something next episode to show things going full circle I guess.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


I didn't think he'd win but I didn't think he'd megafuckup either. Yowza.

Okuyasu Nijimura fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Dec 15, 2016

Viola the Mad
Feb 13, 2010
Holy poo poo, I knew something would go wrong with JJ, but I didn't expect it to go that wrong. Or that tragically.

I'm pretty glad to see the parallels between Victor and Yurio in this episode. Since Rostelecom-ish, I've been thinking that he end the show ready to fill Victor's skates, so that sequence was pretty gratifying. Victor doesn't seem too happy about that, though--unlike when he was watching the other skaters, he had a little frown on his face when Yurio skated. I think he's worried that Yurio is going to end up in the same place he did in about ten years, lonely and bored with his success.

Troll Bridgington
Dec 22, 2011

Keeping up foreign relations.
My theory is that Viktor decided that it was time for him to hang it up for good while watching Yurio absolutely destroy the ice. Maybe Yuri is misinterpreting that? I have no idea how this is going to end. UGH

Gibbering
May 24, 2014

:catdrugs:
I'm still hoping for the Instagram wedding album ending.

Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

I remember reading somewhere on tumblr after episode 9 a theory that Yuri was planning to call things off after the season (based on their reunion, plus a few other things), but I can't find it now.
Yuri, just because Victor is watching the other skaters doesn't mean he doesn't want to stay with you. Can't you see how lost he looks when you're not there?

ETA: Some people are doing the scoring math and calling shenanigans. JJ shouldn't be anywhere near there with 2 popped jumps and Yurio's score is impossible given his routine.

Maera Sior fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 15, 2016

Alopex
May 31, 2012

This is the sleeve I have chosen.

hopeandjoy posted:

I think Kubo tweeted the OP and ED won't be in the next episode. Saves a good five minutes at least.

I was half hoping that Otabek was gonna skate to the OP but it doesn't seem like his style.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
Yuri is dumb but Victor is dumb too. "If you win we'll get married" sounds romantic but it implies that his loved for Yuri is conditional on winning. His SP looked painful this time, I'm guessing that's why.

It's all Victors fault, is what him saying.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Alopex posted:

I was half hoping that Otabek was gonna skate to the OP but it doesn't seem like his style.

I was distracted by other things but it's important to note that Otabek's skate was amazing, and I love how it fit with everything else going on. He's awesome.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

I hate the world for making me cry over JJ

I'm glad JJ is dead.

Erin M. Fiasco
Mar 21, 2013

Nothing's better than postin' in the morning!



Jesus, I know I wanted JJ to get knocked down a peg, but I didn't expect it to be so heartbreaking. I love it. The parallels between him and Yuri were fantastic. This is easily the best pure-skating episode and it had plenty of what I love about those - that we see each skater's character really come out in their routine. Each of them does something different and it's all so unique.

It's also super wild to be watching this right after the actual Grand Prix Final and realizing how spot-on the aesthetics are. Impressive.

Seriously though, I kept waiting all series for someone to have a really bad performance but for it to be JJ and accompanied by those incredible visuals...I'm blown away.

As for the thing at the end, I have to admit that while thematically appropriate considering the theme of On Love: Eros, if we get anything less than Yuri and Victor together and married I'll be sad. I hope the two of them sort out their differences and misunderstandings somehow and realize that they've kind of been not opening up to each other like they should have and let's just have a happy ending god drat it. They can split as coach-and-skater but don't let them actually split. Please.

I JUST LOVE THEM SO MUCH AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS IS GOING. :cry:

Gibbering
May 24, 2014

:catdrugs:
Viktor needs to straight up tell Yuuri "stay by my side, don't leave", because this whole non-verbal communication thing clearly isn't working well enough. Sometimes direct is best, kid.

Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

Gibbering posted:

Viktor needs to straight up tell Yuuri skate "stay by my side, don't leave", because this whole non-verbal communication thing clearly isn't working well enough. Sometimes direct is best, kid.
I have no idea how they'll manage to cram this in, but it's been forshadowed all season.

a computer ghost
May 30, 2011

an unhackable cat???
If Viktor skates Yuuri's FP, which represents his career as a skater, I will lose my poo poo in the best possible way.

Yuuri copied Viktor's program to lure him in, Viktor should repay the favor to seal the deal.

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Adel posted:

If Viktor skates Yuuri's FP, which represents his career as a skater, I will lose my poo poo in the best possible way.

Yuuri copied Viktor's program to lure him in, Viktor should repay the favor to seal the deal.

I didn't know I wanted this.

kurona_bright
Mar 21, 2013

Adel posted:

If Viktor skates Yuuri's FP, which represents his career as a skater, I will lose my poo poo in the best possible way.

Yuuri copied Viktor's program to lure him in, Viktor should repay the favor to seal the deal.

In the case where that doesn't happen next Wednesday, have this.

Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

Adel posted:

If Viktor skates Yuuri's FP, which represents his career as a skater, I will lose my poo poo in the best possible way.

Yuuri copied Viktor's program to lure him in, Viktor should repay the favor to seal the deal.

Chaotic Flame posted:

I didn't know I wanted this.

I didn't know I wanted it either.

a computer ghost
May 30, 2011

an unhackable cat???

Maera Sior posted:

ETA: Some people are doing the scoring math and calling shenanigans. JJ shouldn't be anywhere near there with 2 popped jumps and Yurio's score is impossible given his routine.

I'm calling double shenanigans on that math :colbert: For one we only have partial knowledge of what their full routines consist of (and with JJ you get into the area of what was planned vs what was performed) and how well every single element was performed, so there is a lot of assuming going on. If we had full footage that was lovingly animated that would be another story, but we don't.

For two, during the kiss and cries, the show pointedly did not show the individual technical and performance scores and just gave us the combined scores (which is really all we need to know). So trying to reverse engineer what they would be is just asking for madness. The judging system is really (intentionally) complex and there are a lot of exceptions and qualifiers and then there's some inevitably bias from the judges that will raise/lower a score, etc etc.

Sorry for the rant, these dumb posts on tumblr that people make with the air of absolute authority or with clear embellishment in order to impress new figure skating fans irrationally irritates me. Like yeah the show takes some liberties but it's either very minor (Minami's undone tie on his outfit not being tacked down) or extraordinary but still believable (the scores are higher than you would actually see now, but not so much that it totally takes you out of it). And the creators are big skating nerds who are dedicated enough to authenticity that they (as one example) commissioned professional costumers to design everyone's skating outfits, so seeing tumblrs tripping over themselves to get a smug GOTCHA is obnoxious as gently caress.

That said...

kurona_bright posted:

In the case where that doesn't happen next Wednesday, have this.

:kimchi: Thank you, that's a good recc and go for the wedding on the beach, you sappy Russian :kimchi:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I swear to god if the skate boys aren't together at the end of this story I'm gonna flip every table in my home.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Oh, Canada :canada:

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I care way more about JJ right now than I do about whatever Yuri and Viktor were talking about.

witchcore ricepunk
Jul 6, 2003

The Golden Witch
Who Solved the Epitaph


A Probability of 1/2,578,917
Are we supposed to know what was going on in Chris's flashback?

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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Hmm.. this twitter thread is a different take on the post-credits translation:

https://twitter.com/petitemistress/status/809158034198904832

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