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A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Nothing makes me want to kill myself more than an hour long suicide prevention PowerPoint, and nothing makes me want to drink myself into oblivion like an hour long drug and alcohol abuse PowerPoint. I don't think they realize this.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

A Bad Poster posted:

Nothing makes me want to kill myself more than an hour long suicide prevention PowerPoint, and nothing makes me want to drink myself into oblivion like an hour long drug and alcohol abuse PowerPoint. I don't think they realize this.

But you're still alive and not in jail.

So it's like muscle failure PT! Highly effective :downs:

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

its curtains for Kevin posted:

Greetings from deployment zone. Please enjoy some recordings courtesy of the sound booth on post.

https://youtu.be/T763uXxWs2A

Switch MOS and come be a 42R, go National Guard/Reserve Band and become the fakest of fake soldiers. Play gigs for school kids, old folks, and the occasional change of command ceremony one weekend a month, two weeks a year #POGlyfe

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
One of my old NCOs switched from the band. After hearing a few of his stories, I think it is one of the few not completely horrible jobs in the military. Anytime we would get stupid orders I would tell him how horrible of a mistake he had made reclassify.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

It's a pretty chill job. As far as Army bullshit levels go, the band is definitely on the low end of the spectrum, though it varies by location (lol Korea).

No CQ or staff duty, we never go to the field, and people assume you're an adult until you give them a solid reason to treat you otherwise. PT in small groups, have a morning formation, get your work done, go home. Have to come in for an hour or two for a gig on a weekend? You get the following Monday or the next Friday off.

I mean, it's still the Army, so that part blows, but most days I feel like something resembling a functioning adult human being so it could be worse.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

chaplains assistant is the cakest gig

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I was drunk the other night and wondered if Bergdahl had to do five years worth of mandatory training and briefings when he got back.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
RE Chaplin assistant
Truth right there. Did I roomed with basically spent 6 months in his room looking at porn or playing SNES

Fucker

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


bulletsponge13 posted:

I was drunk the other night and wondered if Bergdahl had to do five years worth of mandatory training and briefings when he got back.

Isn't there UCMJ codes against maltreatment?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

bulletsponge13 posted:

I was drunk the other night and wondered if Bergdahl had to do five years worth of mandatory training and briefings when he got back.

Legit thing: serial podcast season 2 is about Bergdahl. They weren't apologetic, but I'm glad I listened to it. Dude is honestly crazy, and it's kind of sad. But I can totally see and understand his frustration at his instigating situation. His method of solving it was totally, totally wrong and dangerous and possibly killed others, though, and for that he should probably burn.

Five years' worth mandatory training is a fair trade for capital punishment.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

bulletsponge13 posted:

I was drunk the other night and wondered if Bergdahl had to do five years worth of mandatory training and briefings when he got back.

He was still on 4-25's books while he was captured, so his name would pop up on all the monthly reports for needing to go to BLC, or being red on dental and poo poo like that.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

A Bad Poster posted:

He was still on 4-25's books while he was captured, so his name would pop up on all the monthly reports for needing to go to BLC, or being red on dental and poo poo like that.

It's even worse if an important position is captured, locked up abroad, etc. It's no fun having a key senior staff position or other important position vacant for years, but HRC says it's a leadership problem and won't provide a fill, because maybe they'll be back one day.

And also why haven't they done their PHA?

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
If this fuckin' "Bergdahl" guy doesn't show up in the next fifteen minutes... I swear to gently caress. Where's the barracks roster? You know what, just give me the phone book, I'm not playing this stupid poo poo.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
If I knew that my absence was causing some CPT or LTC out there somewhere to have a constant near aneurysm over the red status on a ppt slide it would almost be worth it to be a POW. Almost.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Naked Bear posted:

If this fuckin' "Bergdahl" guy doesn't show up in the next fifteen minutes... I swear to gently caress. Where's the barracks roster? You know what, just give me the phone book, I'm not playing this stupid poo poo.

Imagine his battle buddy catching poo poo every day for five years, never being allowed to PCS.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

If I knew that my absence was causing some CPT or LTC out there somewhere to have a constant near aneurysm over the red status on a ppt slide it would almost be worth it to be a POW. Almost.

In my experience the red slides for poo poo like PHA or dental or whatever quickly get dismissed. And since he was a private at the time, the lack of fill doesn't really suck.

But when someone like your only logistician or the S1 NCOIC or an XO is missing or incarcerated for years and HRC won't give you a fill, it can suck.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

Legit thing: serial podcast season 2 is about Bergdahl. They weren't apologetic, but I'm glad I listened to it. Dude is honestly crazy, and it's kind of sad. But I can totally see and understand his frustration at his instigating situation. His method of solving it was totally, totally wrong and dangerous and possibly killed others, though, and for that he should probably burn.

Five years' worth mandatory training is a fair trade for capital punishment.

I listened to it too. It was a great listen. I got the impression that he was an idiot kid with delusions of how the Army and war is supposed to work. I also had the takeaway that he just shouldn't have been allowed in at all.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Agreed on all counts.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
Both seasons of Serial have been fantastic. I know season three is supposed to be about Fugazi, which seems like it could be really interesting as well. As far as Bergdahl, he definitely was unfit for duty, and it's unfortunate that he was allowed to serve, because it ultimately got Soldiers killed needlessly. I am sympathetic to the guy, as I can barely fathom being a POW of HQN, so I think he basically has time served. No additional sentencing is going to bring back the lives that were lost, and I don't believe he did any of his action with malice towards his fellow Soldiers.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

While I agree that being a POW for five years is good for time served, but I still think he should face time stateside. To me, the five years he spent being held was an idiot tax, and he should still face time for his actions. I will also admit that I might be projecting because, while his actions had no effect on me personally, I was offended and pissed by his dumb rear end decisions.

But I am a big idiot.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
What made the most sense to me is that his time being captured would be punishment enough in terms of time, but they shouldn't give him the $300,000 or so in backpay that he would be owed, since he went AWOL before being captured.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
IDK i'm kind of weird about mental health in the army and remember when suicide was grounds to deny someone SGLI and I don't think dude should necessarily be punished for being mental

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

IDK i'm kind of weird about mental health in the army and remember when suicide was grounds to deny someone SGLI and I don't think dude should necessarily be punished for being mental

except he probably got people killed.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

except he probably got people killed.

oh well in that case hang him

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Bowie,

At least six in his unit died looking for him during rescue operations IIRC. There are at least two that the panel is hearing arguments on if they will be allowed to testify. One with TBI due to a gsw to the head.


gently caress this dude and his hippy parents

Obstacle2
Dec 21, 2004
feels good man

Syrian Lannister posted:

Bowie,

At least six in his unit died looking for him during rescue operations IIRC. There are at least two that the panel is hearing arguments on if they will be allowed to testify. One with TBI due to a gsw to the head.


gently caress this dude and his hippy parents

No one's death can be attributed to search efforts for him, the Serial investigation made that pretty clear.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Syrian Lannister posted:

Bowie,

At least six in his unit died looking for him during rescue operations IIRC. There are at least two that the panel is hearing arguments on if they will be allowed to testify. One with TBI due to a gsw to the head.


gently caress this dude and his hippy parents

It's not that cut and dry.

manchego
Feb 16, 2007

MEANWHILE,
Been listening to the Serial podcast off of the recommendations in the thread.

Real good and up to episode 8.

The CSM is army as gently caress when he starts connecting the dudes being out of uniform while setting up their lovely OP to "...AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET A loving MY LAI, HOOAH?"

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Task and Purpose Radio podcast followed Serial season 2 and added to episodes, critiqued, etc. The panel is the host, who as far as I know was never military, an ETS-d infantry officer who was in the battalion at the time, and a retired Marine JAG officer to cover the legal aspects. I recommend those episodes.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

manchego posted:

Been listening to the Serial podcast off of the recommendations in the thread.

Real good and up to episode 8.

The CSM is army as gently caress when he starts connecting the dudes being out of uniform while setting up their lovely OP to "...AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET A loving MY LAI, HOOAH?"

He's the most CSM to ever CSM

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
aren't we talking about the same military that had two Kiowas collide while looking for a sidearm or was it just one Kiowa

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Proud Christian Mom posted:

aren't we talking about the same military that had two Kiowas collide while looking for a sidearm or was it just one Kiowa

I'd be perfectly willing to believe it was three Kiowas slamming into each other like they were the Three Stooges butting heads as they all reach for the same thing.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
I'm still laughing about that FBCB2 message dude posted about having to look for the BC's bag

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Our OPS SGM is really chill and regularly calls out dumb Army stuff for being stupid, puts his hands in his pockets, etc. Still mystified how he made it through the SGM's Academy. He's about to go to another unit and become a CSM, maybe a switch will flip inside him once he gets there.

manchego
Feb 16, 2007

MEANWHILE,

Mustang posted:

Our OPS SGM is really chill and regularly calls out dumb Army stuff for being stupid, puts his hands in his pockets, etc. Still mystified how he made it through the SGM's Academy. He's about to go to another unit and become a CSM, maybe a switch will flip inside him once he gets there.

Your loving bizarro-world unit is a fragile cherry blossom.

It is destined to crumble.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Mustang how did you solve the quantum mechanics of being able to do trans dimensional posting from the mirror universe?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011


E: AV sized

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Dec 17, 2016

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I would totally take that av but I really don't want to give up the old-school stupid newbie avatar I earned by pissing off grognards.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

bird food bathtub posted:

I would totally take that av but I really don't want to give up the old-school stupid newbie avatar I earned by pissing off grognards.

haha whats the story behind that? I'm assuming Warhammer poo poo but how bad did you piss dudes off about Warhammer?

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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

haha whats the story behind that? I'm assuming Warhammer poo poo but how bad did you piss dudes off about Warhammer?

Told them GW treats every other race that isn't SPESS MUHREENS like the total poo poo redheaded step children of the franchise. Said maybe if they didn't spend so much time sucking the dick of everyone who wants to play SPESS MUHREENS by having well over half the codexes and every rules update for upwards of a decade for some armies be different colored models of SPESS MUHREENS their lovely hobby wouldn't be such a loving train wreck that has become the laughing stock of the hobby world with GW circling the drain of bankruptcy on the regular. So someone rage-bought me the SPESS MUHREEN avatar to make me mad.

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