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Blistex posted:It's a Zhang Yimou film, so I'm guessing mainland. 2046 is pretty good but not sure if you like Wong Kar Wai
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Haier posted:I was being sarcastic. Single mothers are not accepted in China, regardless of the father's status (which might just make it all worse, anyway). but that don't mean you shouldn't do it mang
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So I did a search for this Lou Jing girl and can't find anything on her after 2009/2010. Even in Chinese, I find the same exact info. Oh, I also found an article on Douban movie claiming that people weren't making GBS threads on Lou Jing and her mother because of racism, but because her mother's a slut and had a child out of wedlock(who therefore deserves to be poo poo on)!
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poo poo movies, poo poo racism. What a way to start the day.
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oohhboy posted:At least you get to watch the odd good/weird movie that comes out of Korea without subs. I can't think of a single mainland movie I ever wanted to watch or seen that was any good ever. Korea has a much greater cultural influence than China, as does Japan by a great degree. India is bigger if you look at Bollywood. Einstein and Einstein is about a teenage girl dealing with a lot of the stuff that comes up here (raised by grandparents, neglected by parents because of a younger brother, etc.). It is kind of a children's film but pretty unflinching. In the end she has to accept (!) all the bullshit. What's in the Darkness is also a coming of age story but surrounded by a murder mystery and really interesting in the way it is constructed. This one I recommend highly even if you don't have any interest in China.
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So those "islands" that China "owns" in the SCS they they super-dooper pinky swore they would never ever militarise are, wait for it, militarised now And in other news, China is determined to stop Trump talking to Taipei. They are going to do it the only way they know how: by disconnecting the phone at the Taipei end. As in, they're going to invade the country just to unplug it. It kinda seems like it might be a teeny bit of an over reaction to me Captain Postal fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Captain Postal posted:It kinda seems like it might be a teeny bit of an over reaction to me that is because they are bluffing
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Captain Postal posted:So those "islands" that China "owns" in the SCS they they super-dooper pinky swore they would never ever militarise are, wait for it, militarised now It's been militarized since Feb when they installed the missiles. They were there even longer, but apparently just sitting in cargo containers and waiting for the emplacements to be built. This is the exact kind of stuff that I point at as examples of not doing important business with the CCP or CCP owned companies. When you outright lie as a nation state, then throw a little temper tantrum and deny what everyone can see, you've pretty much forfeited the right to call yourself a trustworthy nation. Also loving  about this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/15/china-plan-taiwan-force-trump-call-state-mediaSo much for my prediction that China was going to play is quiet to keep from losing further face. Instead they're threatening to do something that can only end badly for them. Taiwan has a pretty modern standing military, with the ability to defend itself, but should China think "let's try and invade anyway" they're going to get a real taste of what it's like to actually fight someone other than unarmed ethnic minorities. If the Sino-Vietnamese war, or the last time they tried to take Taiwanese territory is any indication, it's going to be a gong show top the bottom. Blistex fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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quote:“And indeed, national sovereignty and territorial integrity are not bargaining chips. Absolutely not. I hope everybody would understand that.” Lol.
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Don't forget that even attempting to invade Taiwan would collapse the Chinese economy and turn it into an international pariah
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Like invading Crimea did to Russia.
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Fojar38 posted:Don't forget that even attempting to invade Taiwan would collapse the Chinese economy and turn it into an international pariah If China decided that they wanted to go "full retard" and invade, it would be interesting to see what the US response would be, considering they (Trump) essentially caused it to happen. Also, what would China hope to gain from such an endeavour? "Hey guys, we just finished up a long and costly invasion, and have lost tens of thousands of soldiers, dozens of ships, and a whole heap of aircraft. Thanks to our missile barrages, we are now the proud owners of an island that needs trillions of RMB worth of infrastructure repair to get back on its feet. . . also pretty much every nation on earth has placed an embargo on us."
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The thing I've always wondered about is how the One Child policy would affect thousands of Chinese families whose only son would die in combat. The policy has only been lifted for a short time, so it's not like it would have let the ranks of the army flood with second sons.
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Stringent posted:Like invading Crimea did to Russia. But they have been taking some pretty heavy hits lately? Granted getting Putin's bestest buddy in the White House was a pretty big victory, but before that. Also, there's a reason why these threats are "editorials" in their lovely propaganda paper rather than official statements from their government.
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Atlas Hugged posted:The thing I've always wondered about is how the One Child policy would affect thousands of Chinese families whose only son would die in combat. The policy has only been lifted for a short time, so it's not like it would have let the ranks of the army flood with second sons. It would probably be a drop in the bucket given their total population. I'm sure they would start some sort of foundation or program to support parents of fallen soldiers (so they could skim the hell out of it). The one child policy, without the threat of a ton of Chinese soldiers dying has already done a massive amount of damage and will continue to for decades to come due to the skewed gender and age imbalances that have happened and continue to happen.
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I really want to see China go all-in over Taiwan, have their bluff called, and the country just collapse into a black hole of lost face.
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Mimesweeper posted:What the gently caress, what is even wrong with people. My favorite is the guy spontaneously bringing up his porn preferences
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Blistex posted:it would be interesting to see what the US response would be, considering they (Trump) essentially caused it to happen Nobody is forcing China to go into full autistic rage mode whenever Taiwan is involved.
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Blistex posted:It would probably be a drop in the bucket given their total population. I'm sure they would start some sort of foundation or program to support parents of fallen soldiers (so they could skim the hell out of it). The one child policy, without the threat of a ton of Chinese soldiers dying has already done a massive amount of damage and will continue to for decades to come due to the skewed gender and age imbalances that have happened and continue to happen. The few thousand dying wouldn't matter, but as soon as they did, you'd have a hundred thousand mothers in a panic. This is easily remedied by controlling the media of course.
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Had a look for those movies, no go, can't even  them. A sort of a testament of how little impact China cinema has.The US is going to defend Taiwan, it's too important. The US sent Carrier Battle Groups last 2 times when things looked like it would go sideways. The show of force got China to back down. There is no reason why the US won't do so again. If things went south for real, China is in no condition to challenge the US Navy. There won't be a land invasion at that would be super stupid. China won't last very long if they get blockaded and they don't have the allies will to take the risk or the ability to trade with them. Economically, everyone will be hurting, but China would hurt worse. I fully expect China next step is having "military exercises" again with videos of beach landings and Chinese Top Gun footage. If they rattle the sabre too much it will drive capital flight through the roof and companies will exit in record numbers as the threat of war would spook them hard. BCR posted:
That will never be not funny.
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Fojar38 posted:Nobody is forcing China to go into full autistic rage mode whenever Taiwan is involved. Seriously. If any other country had reacted the way China has in a similar situation, they'd be laughed into oblivion. It's not a normal or reasonable response and it would be great if the world community stopped pretending it is. Atlas Hugged posted:The few thousand dying wouldn't matter, but as soon as they did, you'd have a hundred thousand mothers in a panic. This is easily remedied by controlling the media of course. Americans, for example, or completely used to the idea of their loved ones being killed in foreign wars. Are the Chinese mentally prepared for this?
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Argentina is sort of the similar situation they get a little salty once in a while but no one gives a poo poo. A big difference is Argentina doesn't sabre battle at a drop of the hat. But yeah, China response has always been insane. Hence why that picture works so well.
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nickmeister posted:Americans, for example, or completely used to the idea of their loved ones being killed in foreign wars. Are the Chinese mentally prepared for this? I don't know that Americans are used to it necessarily, but "freedom isn't free" and all that, plus dying for seemingly just causes is an easier pill to swallow than random middle eastern entanglement.
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nickmeister posted:Americans, for example, or completely used to the idea of their loved ones being killed in foreign wars. Are the Chinese mentally prepared for this? Pretty sure this is more due to having sn all-volunteer military. If we brought back the draft, you'd see a hell of a lot more of a reaction
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true.spoon posted:Based on what I saw on movie festivals there is a pretty good movie scene in China besides the mainstream. Surprisingly hard hitting too. Atlas Hugged posted:The thing I've always wondered about is how the One Child policy would affect thousands of Chinese families whose only son would die in combat. The policy has only been lifted for a short time, so it's not like it would have let the ranks of the army flood with second sons. Imagine being a post-combat soldier with PTSD or needing medical assistance they way they do in the US, but in China. LMAO at all those school kids that will get stabbed by a guy who got a TCM cure for his PTSD.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I don't know that Americans are used to it necessarily, but "freedom isn't free" and all that, plus dying for seemingly just causes is an easier pill to swallow than random middle eastern entanglement. But a lot of people don't seem them as "random middle eastern entanglement." They see them as killing the evil Muslim terrorists! butterbar posted:Pretty sure this is more due to having sn all-volunteer military. If we brought back the draft, you'd see a hell of a lot more of a reaction True. But I don't think China has mandatory service either, do they?
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All the PSTD would turn them into Knife Crime: The Country.
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nickmeister posted:the idea of their loved ones being killed in foreign wars. Are the Chinese mentally prepared for this?
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nickmeister posted:But a lot of people don't seem them as "random middle eastern entanglement." They see them as killing the evil Muslim terrorists! They're in an odd middle ground of having conscription on paper but not actually requiring most guys to show up and serve. They're okay with the current size of their army.
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I am friends with a Taiwanese lady and she tells me that taiwans military isn't really that good because its a conscripted army and their soldiers aren't really that tough.....almost sounds like I just described the mainland. So I often pause and wonder how the two would do if the they squared off. also wonder how chines stock market would do.
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Dicky mouse posted:I am friends with a Taiwanese lady and she tells me that taiwans military isn't really that good because its a conscripted army and their soldiers aren't really that tough.....almost sounds like I just described the mainland. The individual soldiers won't matter. It will be a battle of tech levels. Plus, fighting off a foreign invader does wonders for morale.
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Dicky mouse posted:I am friends with a Taiwanese lady and she tells me that taiwans military isn't really that good because its a conscripted army and their soldiers aren't really that tough.....almost sounds like I just described the mainland. This is true. But there are career military people as well as scrawny teens who are doing their 10 months (?) before they can go to college and get on with their lives. Also, I think they must actually train to fight rather than break up protests and riots.
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So if we get the CCP vs the ROC Who do we bet on CHINA! that's right Also hey Haier this reminds me of you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NHNYGOeIXg#t=04m49s "If you everyman thought like you we would never have gone to the moon"
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Haier posted:They have 30 million single, unmarried, extra men uselessly breathing in all that precious smog. I don't know of any war where 30 million dudes were wiped out, but that would finally level the male-female ratio for the country. It would save the government tons of money. World War II should qualify.
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I think the only comparable demographic effect when it comes to a proportion of the male population being killed would be the world wars or maybe the Indochina conflict--though that one was spread out over 1945-19??* so its impact is more spread out. *Depending on when you want to call it over, could be 75, 80, 89, hell, 2007 if you really care about Hmong guerrillas in Cambodia
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nickmeister posted:This is true. But there are career military people as well as scrawny teens who are doing their 10 months (?) before they can go to college and get on with their lives. Also, I think they must actually train to fight rather than break up protests and riots. Everyone I've talked to that did their stint in the military just said they did a bunch of push ups.
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Dicky mouse posted:I am friends with a Taiwanese lady and she tells me that taiwans military isn't really that good because its a conscripted army and their soldiers aren't really that tough.....almost sounds like I just described the mainland. Whatever of that might be true, but they're sitting on that island with their fortifications and don't need to execute an amphibious landing to rival D-Day with no knowhow and the clownshow that the PLA is. What does that even mean, tough soldiers?
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Haier posted:Imagine being a post-combat soldier with PTSD or needing medical assistance they way they do in the US, but in China. LMAO at all those school kids that will get stabbed by a guy who got a TCM cure for his PTSD. One thing I am pretty confident the mainland generals could manage is keeping the number of post-combat soldiers down.
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