Xenomrph posted:

Definitely gonna disagree there - I read it more as the movie going out of its way to present some of the tropes from the original movie, and then going out of its way to subvert them. It's a team of people... but none of them know or trust each other. They're in a jungle... but it's not a jungle any of them are familiar with, or can exploit to their advantage. The silent warrior does a mano-a-mano last stand with a Predator... and ends up killing it. The huge gruff guy with the minigun... is revealed to be a family man and the friendliest person in the group. Adrien Brody tries the "hide in the mud" trick... and it totally doesn't work. The Super-Predators use hunting tactics... but they're all completely different from the tactics used in 'Predator', while simultaneously being intuitive and easy to understand.
'Predators' was a hoot and I really enjoyed it.

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The tl;dr of the movie is that David creates the classic xenomorph by merging android "DNA" with the proto-xenomorph you see in the poster. This is what gives them their intelligence. We also find out a few new tricks that the xenos can do, which explains how they get around the ships so easily in the other films. Not going to spoil it, but the bio-mechanical appearance isn't just appearance any more. I think this one will divide Alien fans but I mostly liked it.

A basic form of the xenomorph already exists in the movie and takes up the bulk of it. This isn't the deacon from Prometheus but basically a pre-classic-xenomorph which is more natural and animal than the one from the old movies. David uses the catalyst oil to transform it into a life form that's sort of between organic and synthetic. It's why Ash is so fascinated with it in the first Alien film and regards it as perfect.

Yeah, two different androids. There's a sort of cat-and-mouse game where David is constantly being watched by Walter, who doesn't trust David at all. Walter attempts to "upgrade" David, and there's a twist where you find out that David has overcome his programming and become sentient, so it doesn't work, and he fucks over Walter. Superb performances by Fassbender again.

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Earlier this week, actor Michael Fassbender (who plays David again in Covenant) conducted an interview with BBC Radio 2, where he let the name slip of the new Aliens in Alien: Covenant - Neomorphs. These Neomorphs are a completely different breed of Alien - unlike anything we've ever seen before. These Aliens are a result of the Black Goo running rampant on this one particular planet. Over time, spore-filled pods developed on the ground and trees of the planet's surface and when disturbed - release these spores into the air. The spores enter the body through the respiratory passages and that's exactly what happens to a few of the members of the USCSS Covenant. Once the spores are inside the body - they begin to grow a horrible parasite. The Neomorph eventually bursts through the back, not the chest, when it is mature enough.

Ironically, the description of these Neomorphs match up with an early report we exclusively shared back in November, 2015 where we leaked some descriptions of Alien: Covenant concept artwork. The design is based upon early concepts from Jon Spaiht's Alien: Engineers script. To re-cap, here is a quote from out original piece back in November, 2015:

"The movie will have 2 Monsters, one is new and both are different yet similar to the Xeno DNA. The NEW Monster is a New Event, so it’s nothing created before the Events of the end of the First movie.... it's created by an event in the movie... and this New Monster is going to be based off of the Original Concept that Alien drew influence from, and this idea is something they had planned with Spaights’ Ultramorph and so Gigers Necomonicon 4 is the starting point. This Monster will be transparent like a Jelly Fish to a degree.... and it’s hinted that David plays a part in its creation."

FilthyImp posted:

I think I mentioned this before, but there's an Alien/Predator/Prometheus comic that kind of mirrors the path that leak sets up:

Dying scientist injects his friendly botfriend with Black Goo because he thinks the synthoid will "filter" the mutagenic elements. Ends up making a cyber-organic sentient, angry bioroid that progresses into some hellish man/xeno monstrosity with a huge hate-on for the guy that infected him

AlternateAccount posted:

Oooh, ooh! It comes out the BACK instead of teh FRONT!! This apparently passes for creativity?

Tenzarin posted:

Jonah Galtberg posted:

Don't say "tropes" please

Baronjutter posted:

So why is the alien is alien bio-mechnical then? Those eggs were ancient.

banned from Starbucks posted:

So what happened to Shaw?

wuffles posted:

So I assume David tricks Walter into a Freaky Friday style brain swap then uses his old head (with Walter inside it) with goop from the Neonates or the spores or w/e to make the first 'true' xenomorph while pretending to be Walter?

Basebf555 posted:

She died.

Baronjutter posted:

I thought synths were basically "immune" to aliens and aliens showed no interest in them since they aren't biological. I guess black goo can do whatever it wants.

HannibalBarca posted:

splicing android DNA with the xenos to create the aliens? hahahahahahahahahaahaha jfc

HannibalBarca posted:

splicing android DNA with the xenos to create the aliens? hahahahahahahahahaahaha jfc

Baronjutter posted:

This new alien movie might be visually stunning and scary and "good" in every respect but holy gently caress is the plot pants on head stupid.

Baronjutter posted:

I thought synths were basically "immune" to aliens and aliens showed no interest in them since they aren't biological.

wuffles posted:

So is Covenant the movie that's supposed to tie directly back to Alien? If that's the case, I guess they're gonna have to set up the Space Jockey/Derelict/Distress Beacon scenario at some point in Covenant so the Nostromo can come across it in the future?

Basebf555 posted:

I'm hoping there won't ever be a scene where we literally see the derelict from Alien land on LV-426, but I guess that's what the fans want so we probably will get just that.

Electromax posted:

It would be hilarious if it ends like The Thing (2011) or Rogue One with the intro to Alien replayed from the perspective of the space jockey dying right beforehand or something.

Baronjutter posted:

I just hope it doesn't poo poo on or retcon any of the things that I liked in alien, like the derelict and eggs being really loving old and the space jockey not being a large human in a suit.

THE BAR posted:

The hell, dude, spoiler that crap.