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Subjunctive posted:Why does it matter who owns the car? If you lease your Model S, Tesla owns the car. What matters is who's driving. There's a big difference between Tesla's level 3 (ish) autonomy and Volvo's. Volvo is explicitly level 4, and shows a guy reading a god drat newspaper in their marketing. Uber is using a very, very different technology and the city has a right to be concerned.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I honestly think Uber must have some major libertarians at the top, and believe that complying with any sort of government regulation just encourages them. They argue about even the most minor of restrictions. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-ayn-rand-inspired-uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-2015-6
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Subjunctive posted:I'm not sure what you mean here -- everyone immediately below the board is Marissa Meyer. Do you mean the rest of the C suite or their directs? Yes.
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NewForumSoftware posted:http://www.businessinsider.com/how-ayn-rand-inspired-uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-2015-6 (polishes up my Internet Detective badge)
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Doggles posted:Does it still count as a unicorn if the $4.8 billion sale to Verizon hasn't closed yet? 1/7th of the world's population has had a yahoo account hacked. assuming no repeats, that's 21% of the world (yeah yeah the pop. isn't 7bil flat who gives a poo poo)  yahoo should not be selling for five bux, let alone 5 billion, regardless of the sweet sweet social media data (that you can probably find for free online now) PenguinKnight fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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I'm standing in the entry of a popular sushi place in Palo Alto and there are two people (who are distressingly similar to me in apparent demographic) lecturing an older gentleman on how transactional something (connection? competition?) will be disruption-proof. Truly, the industry that irony forgot.
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Subjunctive posted:I'm standing in the entry of a popular sushi place in Palo Alto and there are two people (who are distressingly similar to me in apparent demographic) lecturing an older gentleman on how transactional something (connection? competition?) will be disruption-proof. Transactional consumption, AKA the TBDB.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Transactional consumption, AKA the TBDB. They got seated, so I'll never know.
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Another Fall of Theranos story. Elizabeth Holmes's lipliner game was not on point the day that photo was taken.  quote:When The New Yorker reporter asked about Theranos’s technology, she responded, somewhat cryptically, “a chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel.”
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The fall of unicorns: a chemistry is performed
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:There's a big difference between Tesla's level 3 (ish) autonomy and Volvo's. Volvo is explicitly level 4, and shows a guy reading a god drat newspaper in their marketing. Uber is using a very, very different technology and the city has a right to be concerned. I think it also matters that Uber is a commercial vehicle picking up passengers, as opposed to an individual driving himself around. Regulation and enforcement tends to be more focused on taxis and commercial vehicles.
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Back to network analytics chat, Deepfield, where I work, just got bought by Nokia. Got the announcement at a surprise all-hands yesterday morning.
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*in Bane voice* “a chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel”
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a foolish pianist posted:Back to network analytics chat, Deepfield, where I work, just got bought by Nokia. Got the announcement at a surprise all-hands yesterday morning. Same, but Alcatel 6 months ago 
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Good luck, pianist. I hope Nokia offers you big buckets of money to stay for a year.
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at first I was like yeah uber's gonna get all the deregulations they want but then I remembered that those regulations are controlled at municipal levels and Trump can't do poo poo about them
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Typo posted:at first I was like yeah uber's gonna get all the deregulations they want but then I remembered that those regulations are controlled at municipal levels and Trump can't do poo poo about them Until Uber goes out of their way to set up some service that crosses state lines, creating a new category of interstate commerce which would require the Trump administration to step in and produce some new regulations. The new regulations would allow them to do whatever they want.
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pangstrom posted:*in Bane voice* So, uh, how many zeroes do you want on this check I'm about to cut you? Seven? Eight? This technology sounds really world changing!
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Typo posted:at first I was like yeah uber's gonna get all the deregulations they want but then I remembered that those regulations are controlled at municipal levels and Trump can't do poo poo about them
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JawnV6 posted:He's already threatened withdrawing federal funding from sanctuary cities. You think pulling highway matching funds for daring to regulate self-driving cars is a step too far? please please please let trump be this stupid. let him make americans choose between the president and potholes on the interstates. hail satan in your name i beg you this
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:So, uh, how many zeroes do you want on this check I'm about to cut you? Seven? Eight? This technology sounds really world changing! It should be possible to craft the ultimate VC pitch using the thought technology developed by Theranos. "A technology is performed..."
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Uber doesn't care about self driving car laws. They care very much about keeping the Feds from suing them over independent contractor misclassification.
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Shifty Pony posted:Uber doesn't care about self driving car laws. given trump's choice as labor secretary and his incoming supreme court pick they probably aren't worrying about it anymore!
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The House Freedom Caucus's shopping list mentions Uber by name.quote:Wages. Republicans advise several measures for allowing lower wages, including waiving the Davis-Bacon Act, ending the Obama administration’s overtime rule (currently tied up in court), and ending tougher classification of contractors in part because it “disproportionately hurts independent contractors like Uber and Lyft.” Republicans also suggest ending paid sick leave for federal contractors.
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boner confessor posted:please please please let trump be this stupid. let him make americans choose between the president and potholes on the interstates. hail satan in your name i beg you this Plus it's not like Trumpistan is going to be worried about regulating UBER. That's like some San Fran poo poo.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The House Freedom Caucus's shopping list mentions Uber by name. Yeah but the courts aren't dumb, if drivers aren't employees then Uber is an illegal wage fixing cartel.
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eschaton posted:It should be possible to craft the ultimate VC pitch using the thought technology developed by Theranos. "A technology is performed..." People pitch stuff that isn't too far from that. They call it "machine learning". Subjunctive: "ok, so what's the technology behind you whatzit wobbling the dingaling?" Founder: "oh, machine learning" Subjunctive: "tell me more" Founder: "...machine learning? with data?"
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Subjunctive posted:People pitch stuff that isn't too far from that. They call it "machine learning". What kind of data? um ........ Big ?
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jre posted:What kind of data? Big and proprietary.
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Subjunctive posted:Big and proprietary. I'll adjust my pitch deck accordingly
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jre posted:What kind of data?  Is it cloud-based? Ye....yes. *with* metrics. 
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jre posted:I'll adjust my pitch deck accordingly You should also have falsely-precise estimates of addressable market, and an artifacted graph taken from a 3rd-tier analyst. Under no circumstances should you bring along anyone who can answer questions with the slightest technical content. If applicable, brag about how much previously founded companies have raised, but omit mention of their business performance.
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I'm just a dumb rear end 33 year old dude with a HS diploma and some college or whatever, but if someone came to me and said "a chemistry" in that context I'd have to assume they're a complete idiot, or that they are assuming that I'm a complete idiot. I just don't get it at all, but I guess that's why this thread has been so fascinating to me. edit: Basically almost all of this poo poo seems like people having more money than sense, in a nutshell.
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Subjunctive posted:You should also have falsely-precise estimates of addressable market, and an artifacted graph taken from a 3rd-tier analyst. Under no circumstances should you bring along anyone who can answer questions with the slightest technical content. If applicable, brag about how much previously founded companies have raised, but omit mention of their business performance.
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Ah, the Addressable Market Slide, AKA the biggest lie in business.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:edit: Basically almost all of this poo poo seems like people having more money than sense, in a nutshell. The other part is being Uncle Warbucks and having enough cash where a $1-10 million hit won't bankrupt you (hell, maybe you claim the loss over a few years to lessen your burden), which makes the promise of grabbing the next Apple/Google by the baby balls and watching that seed money turn into a 5x profit all the more sexy and enticing.
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Baby Babbeh posted:Ah, the Addressable Market Slide, AKA the biggest lie in business. I have a boss who has every one of those slides he has ever seen saved in one PowerPoint. He emails an updated version around every 6 months and makes me add in post-mortem stats about how hard they failed.
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Time posted:I have a boss who has every one of those slides he has ever seen saved in one PowerPoint. He emails an updated version around every 6 months and makes me add in post-mortem stats about how hard they failed. are you hiring?
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:are you hiring? Seriously that sounds like an awesome boss
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