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paranoid randroid posted:for a politically cunning group, the democrats sure have been getting kicked around pretty hard by a party running on a platform that consists entirely of bestial enraged howling tbf the republicans tapping into the enraged howling center of the brain was entirely underestimated. the democrats need more howling.
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Anyone else here ready for another Mondale run? I think 2020 will mark the beginning of the Mondale era. The only man who can truly bring an end to Reagan's America.
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2020 presidential debate in unlv las vegas: Mondale: where's the beef? Trump: I've finally been stumped and immediately forfeit the race.
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Badlibs are just going to say that Hillary only lost because of russian hackers and not because she was a bad candidate and we're never going to win again are we
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Fun fact, my mom wanted to vote for Mondale but couldn't because she was giving birth to me. I'll never forgive myself for helping usher in a second Reagan term so I've made it my life goal to ensure Walter Mondale, dead or alive becomes leader of the free world.
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paranoid randroid posted:dont werry mlud, oive got a cunning plan I think that was the 2nd worst attempt to hurl a zinger at old Donny boy. Worst one was definitely rubio's "Big Don" retort to the "Little Marco" line.
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http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article120928688.html Jerry Brown is... cool?
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Vox Nihili posted:http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article120928688.html yes he is 
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ShutteredIn posted:Badlibs are just going to say that Hillary only lost because of russian hackers and not because she was a bad candidate and we're never going to win again are we russian hackers and also the populace is evil and cannot be reasoned with, just more loser whining rather than actually doing poo poo about anything
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The future of the Dems pretty much rests on whoever gets the DNC chair. If Ellison wins it and can prove his ideas work to regain seats in 2018, then the party is his. I don't really believe that there's much ideological opposition to the Sanders wing within the party, people are just spineless and hesitant to try a new strategy and will quickly fall in line if it actually works
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Vox Nihili posted:http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article120928688.html If he actually follows through, he's won me over.
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Vox Nihili posted:http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article120928688.html Yes he is.
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"Elon? Jerry Brown here. Launch CALSAT One."
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Karl Barks posted:sounds like he's trying to run in 2020 2 me He's given California an actual functional budget so hey, why the gently caress not?
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:He's given California an actual functional budget so hey, why the gently caress not? sounds like a better choice then clition ever was.
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wait, that wasn't a weather satellite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOKf5r_JMAo
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:He's given California an actual functional budget so hey, why the gently caress not? Honestly I'd be surprised if we didn't see other governors start building a maverick reputation by thumbing their nose at trump whenever possible to prep for 2020
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Hillary was probably doomed from the start of her Senate career because the Dems parachuted her into an easy seat so she never had to actually win a difficult election so naturally her people were dumb as rocks
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I wonder if this "please be nice to us, GOP" strategy will work. https://twitter.com/democracync/status/809537099133239297
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Joementum posted:I wonder if this "please be nice to us, GOP" strategy will work. Well bless his heart for trying.
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Joementum posted:I wonder if this "please be nice to us, GOP" strategy will work. Its pretty much all he can do, short of my lynch mob idea being implemented
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ShutteredIn posted:Badlibs are just going to say that Hillary only lost because of russian hackers and not because she was a bad candidate and we're never going to win again are we Badlibs are have been blaming 2000 on nader for a decade and a half now and refusing to accept that maybe Old Broom/Literal Monster wasn't a good ticket.
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Cyron posted:sounds like a better choice then clition ever was. Kanye could still be a better choice than Clinton ever was.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:He's given California an actual functional budget so hey, why the gently caress not? Sadly he already decided against running in 2016 because he was too old. He said he would have done it if he was 5 years younger.
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Bushiz posted:Badlibs are have been blaming 2000 on nader for a decade and a half now and refusing to accept that maybe Old Broom/Literal Monster wasn't a good ticket. It's possible for both those explanations to be correct, y'know.
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Joementum posted:I wonder if this "please be nice to us, GOP" strategy will work. he has basically nothing else, not sure what you're expecting
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If you think the Republicans wouldn't have found a way to steal Florida in 2000 regardless of how many Nader votes got flipped, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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kenner116 posted:2020 presidential debate in unlv las vegas: Dukakis (halfway into a tank): I...oh! Oh. Okay. I'll just...go home. Okay.
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HannibalBarca posted:If you think the Republicans wouldn't have found a way to steal Florida in 2000 regardless of how many Nader votes got flipped, I've got a bridge to sell you. Catherine loving Harris, man
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paranoid randroid posted:Catherine loving Harris, man The General Assembly all but said they were gonna use their power to award EVs arbitrarily and give them to Bush even if the recount flipped the result. It was blatant.
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Joementum posted:I wonder if this "please be nice to us, GOP" strategy will work. that infamous democrat backbone what a sight to bear witness to
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I though jerry brown had the suede denim secret police
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:It's possible for both those explanations to be correct, y'know. I'm of a mind that the discontent that expressed itself via Nader would probably have expressed itself some other way because it turns out that Dude Who Wants To Be Your Buddy* is surprisingly difficult to beat, especially when people are hurting in a time that everyone else thinks is generally okay. (Holy poo poo, 2000 and 2016 were the same drat election.) ___ *Note: does not actually want to be your buddy
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Tatum Girlparts posted:the great thing about this is if this is at all true our 'disaster' has already happened. We have literally nothing, the left's hold on America as a whole hasn't been this tiny in ages, so all Ellison has to do is oversee literally any success and any decently savvy spinner can turn it to 'yea no poo poo we didn't have some grand wave that dominated everything, but we made progress and because of that progress things will improve, now let's talk about the next elections'. the catch is that the electoral map for 2018 is awful, the dems have almost no chance of making gains and will be lucky just to avoid losing seats Ace of Baes posted:Ah yes, I remember when the tea party came into existence and the Republicans slowly shifted control to them over the course of several decades. the tea party didn't come to power because the Republicans put them in token leadership positions, they came to power because the tea partiers won enough elections and seats to have real influence on the House floor, and were willing to use it and play hardball with leadership to get what they want fun fact: the congressional progressive caucus has twice as many members as the freedom caucus and is bigger than the tea party caucus ever was, and has existed for two and a half decades. i wonder why they did fuckall despite controlling about a third of Dems' current House seats
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i'm going to spend my entire adult life disappointed in left wing leadership for consistently being spineless centrists, aren't i
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Pomp posted:i'm going to spend my entire adult life disappointed in left wing leadership for consistently being spineless centrists, aren't i Signs point to yes
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Main Paineframe posted:the catch is that the electoral map for 2018 is awful, the dems have almost no chance of making gains and will be lucky just to avoid losing seats A lot can happen in two years and nothing electionwise that happened this year was expected, isn't there any chance to hope?
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Main Paineframe posted:the catch is that the electoral map for 2018 is awful, the dems have almost no chance of making gains and will be lucky just to avoid losing seats While true, the main inroads need to be made at the state level, not federal. If he can flip several statehouses and get victories for governorships, that would qualify as success.
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