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Not surprised at all about D-Mo. Dekker and Harrell playing well early in the season was the nail in the coffin. There's nowhere to put him since he can't take Corey Brewer's minutes. So far, the Rockets season has been the absolute best case scenario. Every question about the team before the season has been answered "yes" thus far. Can Capela be a serviceable starting center? Does Nene have anything left in the tank? Will Anderson and Gordon have rebound years? (hopefully the follow-up "will they stay healthy?" falls on the list as well) Will young guys like Dekker and Harrell give them anything? Will D'Antoni's system work with this roster? Can Harden be a full-time point? (this was the most obvious "yes" of them all before the season, though)
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I'm surprised it was even questioned if the roster fits D'Antoni's system. It's pretty much "Is there a stretch 4 or a SF that can play PF full time? Yes the system fits."
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Tae posted:I'm surprised it was even questioned if the roster fits D'Antoni's system. It's pretty much "Is there a stretch 4 or a SF that can play PF full time? Yes the system fits." His failings as a coach have been interpersonal in nature. It was reasonable to wonder if Harden would go along. But D'antoni just changed things up so that Harden would have the ball roughly 99% of the time, so he's happy and everything is copastetic
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Dec 16, 2016 00:59
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Draymond Green posted:Were all blessed. But when you sit and look at the circumstances about how much money is involved in this league, in terms of that, Im upset. Its not about, like I said, where my status is at as an All-Star. Youll be taken care of. As a superstar in this league, youll be taken care of. Its not about us, its more so about the guys who arent on that level. It's not about me being the best player on my team. It's about the guys that aren't. Really, as a hall of famer, I'll be fine, and as the best player of all time, I'm definitely good. But I worry about the other guys.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:02
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Was watching a cs:go stream and it went into the ej sager tribute. Dammit, I'm crying again.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:04
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Nerlens Noel has fired/left Andy Miller and will be retaining Dan Fegan as his new agent.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:09
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Cool Buff Man posted:It's not about me being the best player on my team. It's about the guys that aren't. Really, as a hall of famer, I'll be fine, and as the best player of all time, I'm definitely good. But I worry about the other guys.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:15
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If Nerlens Noel was really serious about getting out of Philly he should have hired BJ Armstrong.
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Fast Luck posted:Sucks for them to loser a shooter and ball handler. But Sergio is holding down the fort and my understanding is that Simmons will be playing the 1 and guarding 1s when he returns (debuts?) in a month or so! Simmons will not guard 1s on purpose . He will be a 3 or 4 Brett brown fltried to dumb down some comments to reporters and confused everyone .
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Dejan Bimble posted:His failings as a coach have been interpersonal in nature. It was reasonable to wonder if Harden would go along. But D'antoni just changed things up so that Harden would have the ball roughly 99% of the time, so he's happy and everything is copastetic
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Cool Buff Man posted:It's not about me being the best player on my team. It's about the guys that aren't. Really, as a hall of famer, I'll be fine, and as the best player of all time, I'm definitely good. But I worry about the other guys. I tracked down the whole interview since I was curious and I think he might just be an idiot straight up brolic posted:Wtf is he talking about, didn't they make it so that the minimum and rookie scale concepts were not fixed amounts but % of cap? They did raise a lot of the minimum salaries, gone up about 50 percent, raised some of the other exceptions. What is it you would'€™ve liked to see? I'm not going to go into specifics. I just got all these details last night. I spent a lot of yesterday evening going over these things, breaking down the memo I was sent of these changes. And things are going up. But they'€™re going up based on money that the league is making. They'€™re not going up on money the league is making, they'e not going up based on let’s take better care of these guys.†So you'd like to see, for example, a higher minimum salary? €œIt's not even necessarily that it's a higher minimum salary. There could be different structure to have not as many minimum players. Right now, there'€™s like a max and a minimum and a couple in between. I think there could be different structures to help those minimum guys make more and not be a minimum player. But like I said, there's a lot of things that I'm still going over that I can'€™t really speak to every specific right now. I'm still reading over these things. Because there'€™s a lot. I want to be informed on everything that's going on. I want to try to help guys who aren'€™t an All-Star, who aren'€™t a top-15 player in the league. How do we help 100 to 200 top players in the league? That's more my focus, my frustration that I expressed. Everyone will probably say, oh, Draymond probably think he should make more money. I am doing just fine. It’s about everything else. How do you help the next guy up? How do you help put someone else in a better situation? morestuff fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Dec 16, 2016 01:17
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AFAIK Draymond Green is the only player who has come out against the new CBA, so yes it's entirely possible that he has no idea what he's talking about. Dray talking out of his rear end imagine that
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Dec 16, 2016 01:18
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Draymond: I'm not going to get into specifics because I haven't looked over the details but if we seize the means of production and distribute the benefits of the product collectively amongst the players it seems like everyone would be better off
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Dec 16, 2016 01:21
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dude sounds like everyone that did a semester of anarchy in college and went to an occupy wall street rally
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Tbf I wouldn't doubt there being problems with it. The heads of the union now are superstars. It would be easy for them to get things that benefit them while screwing over non stars. The rank and file members of the union may just not care or look into it. Besides what their player representative tells them about it. I dunno, but it's a bit silly to dismiss someone's complaint out of hand because it isn't the majority.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:24
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Cool Buff Man posted:Were all blessed. But when you sit and look at the circumstances about how much money is involved in this league, in terms of that, Im upset. Its not about, like I said, where my status is at as an All-Star. Youll be taken care of. As a superstar in this league, youll be taken care of. Its not about us, its more so about the guys who arent on that level..
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Dec 16, 2016 01:24
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Deal?!?! you can not overthrow the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie without violence
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Dexo posted:Tbf I wouldn't doubt there being problems with it. The heads of the union now are superstars. It would be easy for them to get things that benefit them while screwing over non stars.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:25
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Sheriff posted:Kyle Wiltjer came in last night during garbage time and went 2 for 2 behind the arc, and now D-Mo has been released. Coincidence? I choose to believe no. Close, but actually they want Bobby Brown back https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/809545400457826304
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Dec 16, 2016 01:25
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The minimum is like 1.2 million dollars a year now and they added 2 roster spots!!!
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Dexo posted:Tbf I wouldn't doubt there being problems with it. The heads of the union now are superstars. It would be easy for them to get things that benefit them while screwing over non stars. Draymond is the Warriors' player representative
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Dec 16, 2016 01:28
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straight up brolic posted:The minimum is like 1.2 million dollars a year now and they added 2 roster spots!!! I was under the impression the two roster spots added are only part of that D-League 2-way thing only isn't it? Also less preseason games could mean undrafted and minimum dudes have less play time to earn a spot. Yeah i know so it might make sense for him to have first hand knowledge of the negotiations and is mad about something in it.
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Dexo posted:I was under the impression the two roster spots added are only part of that D-League 2-way thing only isn't it?
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Dang It 2016
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Here's a cool Jonathan Simmons piece: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-weak-cannot-play-for-pop-155818335.html He actually paid $150 for a D-League tryout. He has four daughters. That's crazy.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:32
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straight up brolic posted:The minimum is like 1.2 million dollars a year now and they added 2 roster spots!!! 1986: Minimum $65,000, Salary Cap $3.6 million 1996: Minimum $200,000, Salary Cap $23 million 2006: Minimum $398,762, Salary Cap $53.15 million 2016: Minimum $543,741, Salary Cap $94.14 million Ratio of Cap to Minimum: 1986: 55/1 1996: 115/1 2006: 133/1 2016: 173/1 Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Dec 16, 2016 01:33
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Crazy Ted posted:So I looked it up:
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straight up brolic posted:With the 2-way you pay the player the minimum for the amount of NBA games that they dress for (instead of 10-day NBA contracts) Right and the two added roster spots I thought were only for players that are called up from the D-League. Not just signings off the streets Here's Woj quote:With two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League, teams can control the development of younger players in the D-League without the fear of losing them to other teams. The union gets more jobs for players with each team able to have 16th and 17th roster spots for players shuttling between leagues. For some players, this will make it more financially feasible to pass over more lucrative overseas contracts to stay in the NBA/D-League.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:35
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Dexo posted:Right and the two added roster spots I thought were only for players that are called up from the D-League. Not just signings off the streets
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Dec 16, 2016 01:38
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Yeah, I think they're more intended for guys that are Summer League/pre-season standouts but wouldn't make a full roster
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Dec 16, 2016 01:41
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RIP Craig Sager. 2016 is a bad year, glad it's almost done. 
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Dec 16, 2016 01:44
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straight up brolic posted:Ah I thought it was 850,000 for some reason so if it's a ~50% increase it should be $950,000? In any event, ratios for the veteran minimums have pretty much gone the same way: much smaller percentage of the cap than they used to be.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:45
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But the general point is that the new CBA is better for almost all players. Everyone will be making more money, except maybe top 100-50 guys who stop getting maxed out. Bitching about it and big upping yourself/your ideals after a deal got done makes no loving sense. If Draymond was so passionate about this issue, he should have built a coalition within the NBAPA or spoken out publically if one couldn't have been formed. Doing so now makes him appear like he's complaining about progress and he's a loving team representative that isn't "well read enough of the CBA" to make a definitive statement.
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Crazy Ted posted:It really does. I mean, just two hours ago I got to see the guy who gave me my first job in education get arraigned - in shackles - on seven Child Porn felonies. Yeah it really sucks a child porn possessor got thrown in jail. J/k
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straight up brolic posted:But the general point is that the new CBA is better for almost all players. Everyone will be making more money, except maybe top 100-50 guys who stop getting maxed out. Bitching about it and big upping yourself/your ideals after a deal got done makes no loving sense. If Draymond was so passionate about this issue, he should have built a coalition within the NBAPA or spoken out publically if one couldn't have been formed. Doing so now makes him appear like he's complaining about progress and he's a loving team representative that isn't "well read enough of the CBA" to make a definitive statement. I think one of the points Draymond was making was that while players are making more money, they're not getting more of a percentage of the profits, it's just that the total profits have gone up.
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Dec 16, 2016 01:48
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Rip Craig, I always enjoyed watching games you called just to see how crazy your suit was gonna be
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I mean, Draymond isn't wrong. Right now there isn't much between Max and non-Max. There are things you can do to offset that, but they didn't do much. You can argue this isn't a problem but as an employee of the league Draymond seems like he should face an opinion.
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The get 50%~ of revenues not profits
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