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Irritated Goat posted:Weird. My Roku wouldn't see the Plex server I had locally while my internet was out. I think I'm just cursed when it comes to Roku though. Lots of crashing\weird behavior. No you're not the only one. I think my first-gen regular roku would work fine without an internet connection but I bought a newer one a couple years back and it would always stop working if the internet went down for awhile. I think it tried to phone home every-so-often and when it couldn't connect then it'd just refuse to load up my plex content.
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Irritated Goat posted:Weird. My Roku wouldn't see the Plex server I had locally while my internet was out. I think I'm just cursed when it comes to Roku though. Lots of crashing\weird behavior. Sometimes the local network stuff is just weird. I've had issues with the plex app not seeing the server when they were running on the same machine.
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Wacky Delly posted:I've had issues with the plex app not seeing the server when they were running on the same machine. Yup, I've hit this one a bunch of times except the local app works fine but the web portal can't see it.
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WhyteRyce posted:Plex Lifetime is on sale for $120. More than the $75 special people get randomly offered, but possibly the only discount you'll ever see. How useful is the Sync/Download option for most people? Does it just download the original file or does it transcode into a format the device can play? It transcodes if it needs to. You can do it on your PC but you have to use the store app, currently Plex Media Player doesn't seem to do it. Don't know if that'll change. I find it helpful because my server is kind of low-powered and can't always transcode well on the fly. This isn't a problem with PMP though which can pretty much always direct play, but keeping the next couple unviewed episodes synced to my android tablet is pretty nice.
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I've had my phone not see my plex server unless I'm logged into my plex account so I could see something dumb like the roku not being able to see the plex server if it can't authenticate since the server was logged into your plex account at one point. I also could just have some setting stuff busted on my end.
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snuff posted:Firefox OS is dead, there will be no new apps. oh ffs that is not what I wanted to hear. can you root a tv?
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EL BROMANCE posted:It transcodes it too. It's quite useful if you travel and don't have a permanent data connection, but it's a shame it seems to be relegated to mobile devices (unless this has changed and I haven't noticed). The Windows 10 UWP app also allows sync. Pretty useful for keeping a laptop synced to your current shows for commutes/etc.
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Plex goes on sale today for $120, and I bought it early this morning for $149 
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greazeball posted:oh ffs that is not what I wanted to hear. can you root a tv? Just get something like a FireTV / Roku / Shield TV / Anything else. Using the OS on your TV is not the greatest experience.
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BoyBlunder posted:Plex goes on sale today for $120, and I bought it early this morning for $149 Tweet them about it, they'll give you the$30 back.
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Khablam posted:The Windows 10 UWP app also allows sync. The Plex Windows store app is one of their most functional and polished clients, surprisingly enough. I use it all the time on my laptop while travelling. Sync is a big deal for it, and I love the way it handles it: If you have an internet connection but it's lovely (in a hotel, say) you can tell the client to prefer synced files but still connect to your regular PMS server. I do this all the time to background download files over crappy internet while watching stuff I already synced. Or occasionally put up with crappier quality if I really want to watch something new that's on my home server. When you don't have internet, like on a plane (or it's super lovely, also like on a plane) you can quickly switch the "server" to the local client, and it will only show media you've synced. It also does a very good job of encoding the files being synced on the fly - they end up being perfect for my device and quite a bit smaller. Sync is absolutely worth PlexPass if you travel. Also worth it if you have a friend who shares their library and they allow you to sync as well as stream (it's an option for the host), that way you can get stuff they have permanently. The Plex client for iOS does this really well too.
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I don't really need any of the plex pass features but I use the free version of plex all the time. The plex reddit says they have hinted at going all subscription? I assume the lifetime pass holders would avoid having to pay a monthly fee. Also 1.3.2.3112-1751929 broke some of my channels. Everything on the cbs channel gives me an error now. Anyone else? plape tickler fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Plex Lifetime is on sale for $120. More than the $75 special people get randomly offered, but possibly the only discount you'll ever see. How useful is the Sync/Download option for most people? Does it just download the original file or does it transcode into a format the device can play? Jesus Christ I just subbed lifetime a day before.
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Hughlander posted:Jesus Christ I just subbed lifetime a day before. As mentioned earlier tweet them, or whatever the gently caress system people younger than me are using these days, and they will refund you the difference.
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Plex Cloud drops support for Amazon Drivequote:Greetings from the Plex Cloud team,
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Yeah just came here to post. It had a 2gb file limit, so I hadn't even bothered testing it in the end.
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I'm betting Amazon didn't want to deal with legal issues with all the companies whose products they sell, since that Amazon Drive link could flagrantly be used to stream pirated poo poo.
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I tried installing the beta server so I could play around with the DVR but I got an error saying there already is another version installed. Can I not install the beta version over an official? And if I uninstall, can I back up and restore my setup or will I have to do everything again?
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Fuzz posted:I'm betting Amazon didn't want to deal with legal issues with all the companies whose products they sell, since that Amazon Drive link could flagrantly be used to stream pirated poo poo. I'm also willing to bet that Google Drive, Dropbox, and OneDrive will eventually follow. Plex Cloud always sounded like a bad idea from the start to me, for obvious reasons 
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teagone posted:I'm also willing to bet that Google Drive, Dropbox, and OneDrive will eventually follow. Plex Cloud always sounded like a bad idea from the start to me, for obvious reasons Seriously, what makes them think the others won't notice? Even a relatively small number of users uploading a shitload of content - pirated content - is going to get noticed. Like, for example, Amazon did. It's not like there aren't users, frankly, who work at all of those companies. Were they just counting on flying under the radar, or do they believe their own bullshit? No one is just using Plex for their own Photos or personal home videos no matter how hard they push that.
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It seems if Plex is serious about doing this, they're going to need to roll out their own centers with end to end encryption, and that just seems far too much work/cost to bother based on how many people want such a thing.
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EL BROMANCE posted:It seems if Plex is serious about doing this, they're going to need to roll out their own centers with end to end encryption, and that just seems far too much work/cost to bother based on how many people want such a thing. There is zero chance of that happening. I will become a fighter pilot in the Chinese air force (I live in Texas) before that happens. It smacks of "Cloud is a thing that keeps growing, how can we latch on to it?". Or they really are deluded as to just how much of their userbase uses Plex to watch downloaded media that the creators and owners of said media didn't authorize. I mean, seriously, people were putting 30+ Terabytes of pirated BDs up on Amazon. That is so not something Amazon or anyone else is going to wink and nod at. "Hey Bob, think of the hundreds or even THOUSANDS of people who will pay us $100-200 a year to host content that will get us terrible PR at the least and sued at worst! We could beat them in court under the CDA, it's got to be worth the return!". No.
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Exactly. It seems they've wasted far too much time on this already when there's plenty of other things that could be added or fixed.
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EL BROMANCE posted:It seems if Plex is serious about doing this, they're going to need to roll out their own centers with end to end encryption, and that just seems far too much work/cost to bother based on how many people want such a thing. Wait. Do you know for a fact it's not encrypted? I.e. You could just download it with a normal amazon drive client and play it no problems?
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It was admittedly an assumption, but if I can find some time over the next few days I'll set up the software (provided it doesn't cause conflicts with my existing setup) and see what happens on my Amazon account.
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The way it works is you have to upload your files unencrypted to Amazon Cloud Drive (or another supported provider) then point the Plex Cloud server instance at the folder containing unencrypted files. What they should have done is added basically any kind of encryption support to their Cloud version of the server and also made an uploader that used that same encryption. The files would then be encrypted at rest and only unencrypted in-memory on the EC2(?) instances of Plex Cloud servers during playback.
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The truth of the matter is that storing and transferring 10+ TB of anything isn't cheap. If you thought you were actually going to get unlimited storage and bandwidth for $60 a year, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Can I put stolen cars on that bridge, or...? edit: oh, I took the plunge and got lifetime. Hopefully I keep using it, but it's been invaluable in my house so far. odiv fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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odiv posted:Can I put stolen cars on that bridge, or...? Plex is still great even if you never touch the cloud poo poo and having Premium for syncing to mobile is awesome if you travel even a little bit or otherwise are in places where good access back to your home server isn't a given. Also, you get features and betas earlier. Case in point: I have yet to touch any cloud drive or cloud PMS poo poo. When I used Emby it was half-decent for syncing the occasional show to, say, Dropbox, when I was on the road since often downloading off dropbox was much faster than from my home server. I got AT&T Gigapower when I moved a few months back so that is no longer an issue but I am sure that use case is still super useful to many. As far as running PMS and storing all media in "the cloud" - gently caress that.
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Oh yeah, I have 0 interest in Cloud. I'm in Canada and have restrictive limits. As an aside, I have a spare lovely older android phone that is way behind on OSes. Do old builds of the android app work with some fiddling? Or am I out of luck there? The thing still plays Netflix and Youtube fine.
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Ixian posted:As far as running PMS and storing all media in "the cloud" - gently caress that. I remember the day when I first heard the term 'cloud computing' and looked into it... so wait, rather than having to pay for a ton of overage I don't actually need, I now have a distributed system that can react and keep up with big surges when they happen, and scale appropriately? That's so cool! Then someone in the media, presumably, heard the term and now it just means 'on the internet'. Thanks Obama.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I remember the day when I first heard the term 'cloud computing' and looked into it... so wait, rather than having to pay for a ton of overage I don't actually need, I now have a distributed system that can react and keep up with big surges when they happen, and scale appropriately? That's so cool! "The Cloud" in terms of scalable on-tap distributed computing where the pricing model is pay as you go is awesome, and lots of good solutions exist for that. "The Cloud" as in take your data center poo poo on prem and move it to another data center managed by somebody else so you can take capital expenses and payroll off your P&L became a thing and makes sense from a financial point of view but less so from a technical one. That model is driven by tax laws for the most part. I'm not saying something like Plex couldn't benefit from the first definition, but the problem is in the end it's dealing with a bunch of copyright violations and the people who own the infrastructure generally don't want anything to do with that. In the US, by law they have to crack down on it, otherwise they lose the shield section 230 of the CDA provides them. That is what makes Plex's push in to this area so puzzling.
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Ixian posted:"The Cloud" as in take your data center poo poo on prem and move it to another data center managed by somebody else so you can take capital expenses and payroll off your P&L became a thing and makes sense from a financial point of view but less so from a technical one. That model is driven by tax laws for the most part. It was heavily pushed by the NSA, CIA, and DHS, as well. Under a lot of the provisions of the PATRIOT act those intelligence services can scrape your data legally every time it's moved between servers. The populace is otherwise none the wiser.
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The problem with plex cloud isn't that people upload pirated films, it's that everything you upload is technically in breach of copyright and "as legal" as sticking pirate rips on there. Arguably, since you're the one defeating BR encryption and doing the upload, it's worse. It's not a thing with legs sadly.
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Thing is, this was never a big priority with law enforcement, compared to global dangers like crazy gunmen, sympathizers of crazy despots, etc. If the FBI couldn't be bothered to go after Reddit's pedo poo poo sitting right there in the open, what makes you think they care about your Plex account. I don't mean to dare you that nothing's going to happen, but some people who pirate things seem to think the full force of the Snowden machine is going to be applied to them. Like you're going to go board a plane and the TSA worker will ask how you got two volumes of Naruto and the de-specialized edition of Empire Strikes Back on your laptop. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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I'll reiterate that I said nothing will ever happen to anyone, just that the kind of privacychat above my post is (IMO) a tad paranoid but also doesn't belong in this thread. How people store their  really isn't in our scope.
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Craptacular! posted:Thing is, this was never a big priority with law enforcement, compared to global dangers like crazy gunmen, sympathizers of crazy despots, etc. If the FBI couldn't be bothered to go after Reddit's pedo poo poo sitting right there in the open, what makes you think they care about your Plex account. This whole veer into law enforcement - whether the FBI is going to gun for you, whether the NSA is secretly recording all your loving BD rips, etc. - is puzzling to me because that isn't what the problem with Plex Cloud is about at all. Is the FBI going to waste time on this? Not likely. Are the MPAA and their various counterparts going to serve notice to Amazon, Dropbox, et. all if (when) they find out? More probable. More to the point, are the lawyers who are employed by the hundreds by these multi-million and billion dollar companies going to even allow for the chance of this happening? gently caress no. They are a business, the law whether you agree with it or not is clear, and at the very least none of them want bad PR. Amazon in particular is already in a dicey game with studios, given that they produce their own content now and legally license a lot of stuff they don't. Why would they even bother taking a chance for some cloud storage accounts that net them a few hundred bucks a year on average, and that's for the heaviest users?
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