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steinrokkan posted:Irrelevant, FDR won at a time of an economic crisis and geo-political tensions that escalated into a protracted war. Nowadays, during a period of prosperity, peace and overall greatness, we need a candidate who can triangulate the best way of preserving what makes America so great. b'rrny porne
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:and the cold war has answered that: "ethnic cleansing, killing the poor, massive funneling of wealth to corporations, etc" I'm pretty sure what makes America so great is giving americans services like medicare and social security and a bit of killing foreigners in dumb wars.
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I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. https://twitter.com/JAMyerson/status/810198983704506368
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. Guy who did nothing to go after Wall Street crooks, wants to block progressives from positions of power?
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freckle posted:I'm pretty sure what makes America so great is giving americans services like medicare and social security and a bit of killing foreigners in dumb wars.
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. god, gently caress this guy. i would say i'm glad to see him go, but he's just getting replaced by someone who's even worse.
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etalian posted:Guy who did nothing to go after Wall Street crooks, wants to block progressives from positions of power?
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. time to  neo-libs
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Lastgirl posted:time to
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. Obama pretty much spent the entire 8 years of his presidency pretending he wasn't a Democrat, except when it came time to start campaigning for himself. Now he thinks he has an authoritative voice on the direction of the party. 
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Look, I'm not saying Marty "Martin" Perez won't fight to advance the progressive agenda I'm just saying whenever Trump sees a picture of him, he gets this weird compulsion to grab it.
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It's like they're trying to fail as hard as possible
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:It's like they're trying to fail as hard as possible The Democrats! Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:It's like they're trying to fail as hard as possible the Obama presidency in a nutshell
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Joementum posted:The paper cited in Drum's article has a bit of a different take on candidate liberalism. How is Henry Wallace so conservative? From what I've read he was as left as FDR if not more.
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Wallace was so far to the left (for an American) that he was endorsed by the CPUSA in 1948. An endorsement which he refused to disavow, and in part cost him the election.quote:his platform advocated universal government health insurance, an end to the nascent Cold War, full voting rights for black Americans, and an end to segregation. His campaign included African American candidates campaigning alongside white candidates in the segregated South and he also refused to appear before segregated audiences or to eat or stay in segregated establishments. Henry Wallace ruled, and it's shameful that he's a forgotten figure in American history. Even for woke liberals. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 23:25 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Rand alPaul posted:How is Henry Wallace so conservative? From what I've read he was as left as FDR if not more. It's almost like these graphs of presidential "liberalism" are made up garbage poo poo poop.
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. lol how much longer are people gonna keep defending this utter failure of a president also some pretty lol comments on that huffpo page
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quote:Progressives did it to us during Bush/Gore too. So this isn't about this particular election and it isn't Hillary specific. It's specific to selfish spoiled brats who want what they want or else. There's not enough of them to win even a primary election. And they don't respect the fact that we outnumber them when they lose a primary. The party needs to adjust away from them and more towards moderates.
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when they go low, chop your friends out by the knees
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Oh Snapple! posted:lol how much longer are people gonna keep defending this utter failure of a president Thank you. This fake Democrats need to keep hearing this message. The left-wing extremists need to go form their own party instead of trying to insinuate themselves into the Democratic party. Democrats win with a unified centrist message.
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freckle posted:Thank you. This fake Democrats need to keep hearing this message. The left-wing extremists need to go form their own party instead of trying to insinuate themselves into the Democratic party. Democrats win with a unified centrist message.
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freckle posted:Thank you. This fake Democrats need to keep hearing this message. The left-wing extremists need to go form their own party instead of trying to insinuate themselves into the Democratic party. Democrats win with a unified centrist message. swap win for lose and he's not wrong
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:It's like they're trying to fail as hard as possible Guys, it's time for some game theory....
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the unified centrist message, which bleeds votes profusely into the ether if the establishment/tea-sipping "gently caress the poor" "liberals" don't want to let go of the party, the party won't be around in a couple of decades if there's still elections at all
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:It's like they're trying to fail as hard as possible Obama: The same shitheads who couldn't produce a good winning records for DNC deserve to stay in power.
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Joementum posted:Guys, it's time for some game theory.... Kenyans fu#*ing rule at covert poo poo
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Prav posted:swap win for lose and he's not wrong Failure? Well, it's a lot like success
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Guys don't you know it's all the fault of progressives
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Joementum posted:Guys, it's time for some game theory.... https://twitter.com/HollyAnderson/status/810213812288753664
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freckle posted:Thank you. This fake Democrats need to keep hearing this message. The left-wing extremists need to go form their own party instead of trying to insinuate themselves into the Democratic party. Democrats win with a unified centrist message. thank you for giving the laugh I needed after not looking at this thread for a month
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i kinda had this opinion before but then trump won and jesus was i proved wrong so hard my spine snapped like a twig i'm not sure how trump's victory could give someone this opinion instead of rip it apart
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settling with what we can get ended up getting us an orange nazi-puppet, maybe if we settle harder we'll loop back around????
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logikv9 posted:I am 15 liberal The graph says least to most, the units are clearly antiliberals
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Yinlock posted:settling with what we can get ended up getting us an orange nazi-puppet, maybe if we settle harder we'll loop back around???? Some people didn't settle for Clinton. I wouldn't be surprised that they would double down , because anything that would draw you to Clinton beyond supposed ability to deliver is being pushed out of the party by the new wing.
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Aurubin posted:I really hope Obama quietly fades into obscurity and the Dems stip listening to him when it comes to the direction the party needs to in, but hey, one last parting gently caress you from the dude I suppose. I'm sorry, I though clearing the field of challengers for a coronation because It's His Turn was supposed to be bad now???
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm sorry, I though clearing the field of challengers for a coronation because It's His Turn was supposed to be bad now??? lol get this weak poo poo out of here
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm sorry, I though clearing the field of challengers for a coronation because It's His Turn was supposed to be bad now??? It is bad. You're right. Smug but right. The problem is Perez has no appreciable electoral experience and is in the race solely because Obama wants him to be. After Tim Kaine and DWS, I'd rather not see anyone from the Obama camp in the running.
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etalian posted:Guy who did nothing to go after Wall Street crooks, wants to block progressives from positions of power? He was never really in a position to "go after" Wall St. (he was doing voting rights at DoJ) but did implement the Fiduciary rule at DoL (Wall St. can't intentionally gently caress over its retirement clients) and the overtime rules
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm sorry, I though clearing the field of challengers for a coronation because It's His Turn was supposed to be bad now???
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