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Das_Ubermike posted:A quick question for those goons who know the secret handshake to receive access to forumware. Is this a normal going rate that you'd pay for a forumware reaver, or has this dude jacked the price through the moon?
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Been looking at getting into Blood Bowl since the new editon came out and was wondering if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I've played the digital versions but I'm still rather in the dark about basic tactics and whatnoy. I'm planning on building a Norse team using the legacy rules GW put out, since they were the team that really clicked for me when I tried out the digital version.
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SteelMentor posted:Been looking at getting into Blood Bowl since the new editon came out and was wondering if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I've played the digital versions but I'm still rather in the dark about basic tactics and whatnoy. This will probably help - just replace "Yhetee" with "Snow Troll" and "Werewolf" with "Ulfwerener". This page should help out with starting rosters, and this one for skill choice. That said, I'd prioritise Guard on more players if you're against lots of bashy teams, as otherwise you'll lose out on strength. In a league or one off game you'll have a ridiculous advantage because practically everyone starts with Block. This gives you a pretty solid defence, and although you've got a low chance of failing a 1 dice block, learn when you should throw them and when you shouldn't - only late in the turn, and only when it'll actually improve your position. Learn that Frenzy is both a boon and a curse, as it can easily suck you into unfavourable situations if you don't lend enough support for the second hit. Use a standard cage to get the ball down the pitch, using the threat of crowd surfing from your Ulfs to keep your opponent away from the sidelines. If you get a touch back, consider giving the ball to an Ulf so that they can get the touchdown SPP, as well as be a pain to sack.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, it's about double the price. I'm also not a big fan of that design, as I think it's too spindly looking. I will have to politely disagree, at least in terms of the body and the legs. I agree that the weapons seem to be a little weedy compared to the rest of the model. I also think it matches up with my Warlord titan much better than my first edition Reaver, which is still one of my favorite epic sculpts along with the Warhound Titan. The specialist games Warhound on the other hand....well, the less said about that monstrosity the better. As an aside, to anyone who is considering ordering some of the Epic 40K style acrylic bases from the Trolls Under the Bridge eBay store; you may want to consider finding a different source of bases. While the Leman Russes (Russi?) I ordered from them were beautiful, crisp sculpts with nice detail, the two part bases are a real pain in the rear end to put together without the glue squishing out from the sides resulting in the base glued to your fingers.
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SteelMentor posted:Been looking at getting into Blood Bowl since the new editon came out and was wondering if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I've played the digital versions but I'm still rather in the dark about basic tactics and whatnoy. If you want to play Norse (they're awesome!) don't be afraid to look into 3rd party miniatures for your team. The Meiko evil pact line or Uscarl scots would be my pick for minis if I were to make a team.
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lovestick posted:If you want to play Norse (they're awesome!) don't be afraid to look into 3rd party miniatures for your team. The 3rd party market for Blood Bowl miniatures in general are in a pretty healthy place.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:57
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Roller Coast Guard posted:The 3rd party market for Blood Bowl miniatures in general are in a pretty healthy place. It is healthier than GWs market, which is why I suspect that this foray into Bloodbowl will end up like their last attempt a few years ago.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:08
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ocrumsprug posted:It is healthier than GWs market, which is why I suspect that this foray into Bloodbowl will end up like their last attempt a few years ago. Nah - I think the teams they release in plastic will get enough sales that they'll be happy with it simply because of how cheap they are compared to most 3rd party teams (£16 with standard discount vs 60+). The Forgeworld ones I'm less sure on - even if they end up cheaper they'll be resin which will put some people off. Its going to cost me as much (or more) to buy 2 bull centaurs to complete my chaos dwarf team as an entire Dwarf team from GW. Whether or not they discontinue the game after the sales slow down is up in the air. I think they might have possibly learned their lesson but its GW so who knows?
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Dec 7, 2016 20:29
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Dec 8, 2016 20:08
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If anyone wants to get into BB cheap, I've got a set of the 3rd ed Human Team on sprue available - 2 Throwers; 2 Catchers; 2 Blitzers; 6 Linemen (no bases.) $15 USD - shipping in the US should be like $2.50-ish. PM me if you're interested.
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Dec 8, 2016 20:24
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Are there any good fan made rules for Inquisitor warbands in Necromunda?
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Dec 12, 2016 05:31
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It would be tricky to balance I think. Inquisitors are going to be freakishly powerful, obviously, and their crew of Henchmen will be a mishmash that could select specialists to cover every base. You'd have to limit the numbers really hard and play them more as a narrative tool (under control of a GM for example) I think. I made a 'gang' of Guilders in my last GM Necro campaign to use as NPCs when defending guild territory from the players and they were loads of fun to create and play with but I made them... kind of crappy. The players who were on the same side as the guild all hated fighting alongside them as all their fancy gear raised their gang rating massively but they were all distinctly average fighters. Edit: There's Inquisimunda if what you are after is Inquisitor-style games at Necromunda scale. Squibsy fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Dec 12, 2016 10:29
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I think you'd just play Spyrers or Arbites depending on what flavor you wanted to go for. Both those lists are far from balanced however but w/e it's Necromunda.
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Dec 12, 2016 10:56
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I got my copy of Bloodbowl from Doc's on Friday - also, they included (for free!) two of the GSC upgrade sprues and a brand new Broodcoven box. I didn't need the Broodcoven, so I brought it in to the local store this weekend and traded it in for another BB set (along with an additional $42.) I immediately sold two team half sprues to my buddies, and sold the pitch and rules to another guy. All told, I got six extra Orcs and six extra humans for my existing teams for zero dollars. Hooray! 
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berzerkmonkey posted:I got my copy of Bloodbowl from Doc's on Friday - also, they included (for free!) two of the GSC upgrade sprues and a brand new Broodcoven box. I didn't need the Broodcoven, so I brought it in to the local store this weekend and traded it in for another BB set (along with an additional $42.) This post reads like a Zelda fetch quest.
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Dec 12, 2016 14:41
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Atlas Hugged posted:This post reads like a Zelda fetch quest. Afterwards, I triumphantly held the two sprues above my head after completing a little spin, all under a fortuitously placed sign that read "Well done!" Then I wandered off, hacking at bushes and kicking chickens. It was a good day.
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Dec 12, 2016 15:09
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I'm clipping and cleaning the new Blood Bowl plastics, and I gotta admit that I am regretting selling off my 5th ed Human team. These new CAD sculpts have zero character and everything looks the same. It's like they gave the job of sculpting the humans to the guy who didn't know how to do faces, so he just slapped an iron grille over everything. And there is way too much repetition in design - nothing really stands out and just kinds of blends together into a blur of spikes and facemasks. The orcs are marginally better, but only because they actually have faces. Otherwise, they are slab-sided blobs with way too much armor for their respective positions. In short, GW's CAD sculpting is terrible.
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Dec 14, 2016 22:20
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The humans are definitely meh. Gonna have to disagree about the orcs tho, these are some really great minis and I grabbed a sprue even tho I don't play Bloodbowl. The only thing I don't like is that the front armor plate is too big.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I'm clipping and cleaning the new Blood Bowl plastics, and I gotta admit that I am regretting selling off my 5th ed Human team. These new CAD sculpts have zero character and everything looks the same. It's like they gave the job of sculpting the humans to the guy who didn't know how to do faces, so he just slapped an iron grille over everything. And there is way too much repetition in design - nothing really stands out and just kinds of blends together into a blur of spikes and facemasks. GW making a bad model in the year of our lord 2016? Who could have predicted such a thing!
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Dec 16, 2016 02:57
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I think I have been blessed with a lovely taste in miniatures, since I only mind the fact that you team ends up being clones (because you used 2-3 sprues with the same miniatures that aren't really posable) and maybe the balls that the catchers are carrying. On the other hand, I have been calling Khorgorath "Design Disaster", so....
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Dec 16, 2016 07:43
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Any word on when more bloodbowl minis are coming out? They really need to put out some extra sculpts for the existing factions, not to mention a few other factions that are already in the first season rulebook.
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Zaphod42 posted:Any word on when more bloodbowl minis are coming out? They really need to put out some extra sculpts for the existing factions, not to mention a few other factions that are already in the first season rulebook. Dwarfs are up next and should be out early next year, they're the last team they're doing in plastic before FW takes over and then it's resin from then on. Rumours are pointing at Nurgle being the first FW team sometime after Dwarfs.
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SteelMentor posted:Dwarfs are up next and should be out early next year, they're the last team they're doing in plastic before FW takes over and then it's resin from then on. Rumours are pointing at Nurgle being the first FW team sometime after Dwarfs. Really? That's super disappointing. Blood bowl just doesn't sell enough to justify plastic or what?
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Dec 18, 2016 06:50
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GW being GW as far as I can tell. They could have kept the game at 28mm with a new board and book and made the old teams available while slowly releasing new sculpts over the year, but they decided they needed to up the scale to 32 and now they can't release the old teams or it will look weird. I don't know that anyone really got what they wanted out of this except for the people who just wanted a box that said Blood Bowl on it.
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Dec 18, 2016 08:19
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW being GW as far as I can tell. They could have kept the game at 28mm with a new board and book and made the old teams available while slowly releasing new sculpts over the year, but they decided they needed to up the scale to 32 and now they can't release the old teams or it will look weird. Now, the boards squares did get increased to 32mm. That does invalidate the old range ruler, but that's about it.
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Dec 18, 2016 08:26
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I'm pretty sure GW explicitly stated the new scale was 32mm. You can still use your old models but GW can't rerelease the old ones because they'll look funny next to the new ones. The reason why they would rerelease old ones is because then they'd have a range of models available from day one. Right now they're encouraging people to go to third parties or eBay if they don't already have a team and don't want one of the three available now. There's nothing stopping them from making the old metal teams available and then replacing them one at a time. If the new models look good people will buy them. But there's not a chance I'm buying overpriced resin. No loving thank you.
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Is there a link to where GW has stated that the future releases for Blood Bowl are going to be Forge World only and not plastic? So far all I can find are people repeating the rumor in comments but can't find actual confirmation.
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Well, they already released the rules for teams they're not re-releasing/won't be releasing any time soon. I think the new box is great for people who didn't play Blood Bowl back then and aren't invested in the game enough to pull every trick in the book to get models. Also, the next Made to Order wave looks hilariously (actually sadly) lovely. Should have sprung money while the going was good and get the Steel Legion Commissar and sexy sexy Daemonettes.
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The new figures are 28mm scale, they're just on 32mm bases and have much wider poses than the previous minis.
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Shadin posted:Is there a link to where GW has stated that the future releases for Blood Bowl are going to be Forge World only and not plastic? So far all I can find are people repeating the rumor in comments but can't find actual confirmation. It was the party line when GW first announced the return of blood bowl. I wouldn't be shocked if they changed their minds at some point though if they think there is a cow to be milked. I think GW are institutionally shy of investing in specialist games because they were once deemed not profitable enough to bother with. That they are revisiting them at all seems to be a big deal and shift in mindset, bug what they actually do with it all remains to be seen.
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Kevin Roundtree is not infallible and it takes more than a single marketing guy to turn around a company that has been bad for so long. Sadly, little to nothing is going to percolate down to the rules department, I think. The new IMPERIAL AGENTS (or whatever) Codex is poo poo through and through
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Ugleb posted:It was the party line when GW first announced the return of blood bowl. I wouldn't be shocked if they changed their minds at some point though if they think there is a cow to be milked. I wouldn't be surprised either, in fact I expect them to support it with plastic. But everyone keeps saying Forge World, and I can't find a single post, video, or anything in White Dwarf December where GW has said that will be the case. That'll really affect whether I buy in, so was trying to find where people got the idea. Seems the new CEO actually has half a brain and the specialist games seem to be selling well, so maybe we'll have a not-terrible GW from now on.
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Shadin posted:Is there a link to where GW has stated that the future releases for Blood Bowl are going to be Forge World only and not plastic? So far all I can find are people repeating the rumor in comments but can't find actual confirmation. I don't have a link but Specialist Games being under Forge World is something I was told by the people behind this release of Bloodbowl at Warhammerfest. Bear in mind though that as we see with the recent Heresy boxed games and, indeed, the Bloodbowl starter, that doesn't necessarily preclude plastic models. JcDent posted:Kevin Roundtree is not infallible and it takes more than a single marketing guy to turn around a company that has been bad for so long. What's wrong with it? All I've heard is positive feedback that it does the job it was aimed at. Small allied detachments from various existing factions that saves you from having to buy a book for each. The Sisters list might not be much of a change, but then I wasn't expecting it to be. Sisters will either be getting a complete range reset or they will be Squatted in the next couple of years. Either way putting a huge effort into a new list for them in this book seems like a low priority. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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People expected sisters to reinvigorated, and what we ended up are the old expensive minis (shifted to a PRE ORDER section for extra insult). The more nitpicky people have issues about wording of certain rules or whatever (acolytes can't ride in the rhinos they get? Techpriests are useless to non IG armies?). Sure, small allied detachments of GK or DW are fun, but the rest is meh and why.
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Shadin posted:I wouldn't be surprised either, in fact I expect them to support it with plastic. But everyone keeps saying Forge World, and I can't find a single post, video, or anything in White Dwarf December where GW has said that will be the case. That'll really affect whether I buy in, so was trying to find where people got the idea. I hope its just rumors. The skaven box with its Blood Bowl branding is perfect and you could have a whole rack of products sitting in your FLGS next to AoS and 40k that are BB branded. Have one box for each team like the skaven box, with the rules for that army, then sell individual figure sprues for customizing your team and adding big guys and things like that. The winter field board they just released sold out super fast, seems like there's plenty of demand for blood bowl products to me!
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To be fair, the new LotR miniatures are coming from FW while the books are done by GW. Not much of an issue there, since there is a poo poo ton of LotR miniatures already available on GW. And we mustn't forget that I'm some weirdo who doesn't want to play named characters.
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Dec 19, 2016 06:03
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Zark the Damned posted:The new figures are 28mm scale, they're just on 32mm bases and have much wider poses than the previous minis. Pretty sure if you see them side by side then this isn't the case - certainly no more than say, Willy Miniatures could be classed as 28mm. They aren't just scale creep, they're a whole other scale.
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Zaphod42 posted:I hope its just rumors. The skaven box with its Blood Bowl branding is perfect and you could have a whole rack of products sitting in your FLGS next to AoS and 40k that are BB branded. Have one box for each team like the skaven box, with the rules for that army, then sell individual figure sprues for customizing your team and adding big guys and things like that. The question is not if there is demand for Blood Bowl, but if GW think it is going to make them a pile of money that is big enough to be worthy of their attention.
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Yeah, the new BB models are larger, but they're also being compared to the old, squat (not Squat) sculpts, many of which came out 15+ years ago. It's like comparing a modern Space Marine to the original plastic RT era MK6 set.JcDent posted:People expected sisters to reinvigorated, and what we ended up are the old expensive minis (shifted to a PRE ORDER section for extra insult). The more nitpicky people have issues about wording of certain rules or whatever (acolytes can't ride in the rhinos they get? Techpriests are useless to non IG armies?). Sure, small allied detachments of GK or DW are fun, but the rest is meh and why.
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Zaphod42 posted:I hope its just rumors. The skaven box with its Blood Bowl branding is perfect and you could have a whole rack of products sitting in your FLGS next to AoS and 40k that are BB branded. Have one box for each team like the skaven box, with the rules for that army, then sell individual figure sprues for customizing your team and adding big guys and things like that. Honestly I think the only issue they're going to have is room in their stores. The manager of my local GW was saying before BB launched that he was excited about it but was going to have to get super creative to be able to fit specialist games in the store along with all the 40k/AOS and hobby supplies.
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