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Darkman Fanpage posted:trump is definately gonna start a war with chyna Well yeah. She has way bigger . . . hands than him.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:trump is definately gonna start a war with chyna the trump thread in d&d has been exceptionally bad because trump shat on china and so everyone is reflexively either talking up chinas abilities or outright wumaoing
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If its anything like the part in the Korean war where they invaded over the border, sign me up that poo poo read like it was a video game
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Fojar38 posted:the trump thread in d&d has been exceptionally bad because trump shat on china and so everyone is reflexively either talking up chinas abilities or outright wumaoing I haven't popped in there yet but god that sounds awful. Does anyone point out that we have out grown the human wave tacit or our suppior fire control systems? I am starting to hate identy politics The right wing now wants to inforce fire safty codes on people living in warehouses, while the left progressive now want to take up arms again the right wing for wanting to inforce safty codes even thought the right hates safty codes and regulations, but loves guns and violence, while the left loves safty codes and hates guns. This is truly a crazy time line.
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war might be good for China since USA could help to fix their gender ratio problem. Don't want piles of depressed guys buying overpriced apartments in hopes of finding a wife
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Fojar38 posted:the trump thread in d&d has been exceptionally bad because trump shat on china and so everyone is reflexively either talking up chinas abilities or outright wumaoing i think china has the capabilities to bloody the us, but they certainly wouldn't be able to stop us from wrecking them.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i think china has the capabilities to bloody the us, but they certainly wouldn't be able to stop us from wrecking them. I don't think that China and the US would ever enter into an open conflict, as the CCP knows (what you said) better than anyone else does. They're just going to keep taking pages from the North Korean playbook, and take cheap shots whenever they can, then run back across the border and either boast or deny (depending on their mood that day). Snatching the underwater research drone, holding the crew of the EP-3, stuff like that where they can look big and make the US look weak is more their speed, not stuff where they will get a massive bloody nose and lose tons of face. There is no scenario where shots are fired between the two, and China doesn't end up the loser (initially or eventually). They know that, and they will keep well back from the brinkmanship scenarios some people are speculating are going to happen because of Trump's phone call and his responses to the CCP.
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Jeoh posted:that's actually from india this is fake btw
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/810121703288410112 <drone is peacefully returned by China w/o incident> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/810288321880555520 lol Laphroaig fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Dicky mouse posted:I haven't popped in there yet but god that sounds awful. the biggest problem is the cardinal sin of not being able to see taiwan in any way beyond what the ccp wants them to see it as and only caring about whether or not chinese feelings are hurt literally ukraine and russia except they are on russias side this time
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check out this loving breath of fresh air
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I'm the "fro" instead of "for" that D&D will use to dismiss everything he says.
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Today was yet another marathon in Shenzhen (I think there have been three in the past 40-something days), but today was the big fancy International Marathon. People on my Wechat wall are questioning if it is possible that other people can actually run such a distance, and not in a rhetorical way. I am not sure this has ever happened in history, and I don't believe there are tools that allow me to find this information. Definitely not something I am holding in my hands. Logic_in_china.wiki
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The only weak point is the Zheng He one; otherwise it's pretty much completely correct.
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If China can't survive without taking Taiwan, acknowledging Hong Kong's rejection of China or carrying the myth of one China, China doesn't deserve to continue as a single entity. Imagine Today's US making GBS threads themselves every time Texas/California/West Coast grumbled about independence or trying to claim Canada as it's sovereign territory.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:The only weak point is the Zheng He one; otherwise it's pretty much completely correct. Yeah it doesn't point out that Zheng He literally took hostages from the places he visited and took them back to China because their rulers didn't adequately acknowledge the glorious superiority and absolute authority of the Ming Emperor
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oohhboy posted:Imagine Today's US making GBS threads themselves every time Texas/California/West Coast grumbled about independence or trying to claim Canada as it's sovereign territory. I'm imagining things like telling an American that you want to visit California someday and all they say is, "California belongs to the United States." Texas sends their own Olympic team but it has to be under the name of "American Houston".
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None of those analogies are particularly good though just because there don't exist 23 million Americans who elected their own government, have their own passports, have their own currency, and formed their own military that was able to repel the American military when they last tried to reclaim the territory. The only thing different about Taiwan and every other country in the world is that China wants everyone to believe the fantasy it made up and for incomprehensible reasons, 60 years later we're still going along with it. What's so immensely frustrating when talking to wumaoers is that beyond "Taiwan is China" they have nothing meaningful to say on the topic and if you corner them on specifics, they all eventually resort to saying, "This is a private Chinese matter and foreigners should stay out of it." I think that attitude is what makes me more anti-Chinese than anything else.
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Somewhere in the multiverse there's some alternate Earth where the KMT weren't as diehard about things and the ROC became the Republic of Taiwan in the 60s or 70s when China couldn't do anything about it and nobody cares anymore
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...%B3%B5%EC%82%ACquote:Beijing authorities have declared a five-day pollution “red alert”, shutting schools, ordering thousands of vehicles off the roads and telling residents to stay indoors, after the Chinese capital was enveloped by a shroud of toxic smog that is expected to linger until Wednesday. Dongbei right now:  LMAO @ everyone there, especially the laowai that accepted jobs there despite knowing it is a hell hole.
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Atlas Hugged posted:What's so immensely frustrating when talking to wumaoers is that beyond "Taiwan is China" they have nothing meaningful to say on the topic and if you corner them on specifics, they all eventually resort to saying, "This is a private Chinese matter and foreigners should stay out of it." I think that attitude is what makes me more anti-Chinese than anything else. Here is usually how it went down every time (5 or 6 times maybe) this has come up and I felt like addressing it rather than skirting the issue (at least 2x as many instances*).  Taiwan is China, it belongs to China. Why don't they want to be part of China? <long pause> Why don't the people of Taiwan want to be part of China? The US controls Taiwan! how? Not the people, they can say what they want. (ignoring US control comment) <long pause> What do the Taiwanese people have to gain by joining China? China is strong, and . . . Who is Taiwan afraid of. . . besides China? . . . Japan! No, they don't care about Japan. You've seen their TV. What would become better if they joined China? <says absolutely unrelated point/gets mad and leaves/stares into space in thought/walks away>*Disclaimer: I like talking Politics, and would do so with one of my friends when I lived in Shenyang, but we were not constantly talking about Taiwan, or trying to attract the locals for a debate (as debating isn't really possible with them). There was a foreign bar we hung out at and there would be Chinese guys hanging out there as well, to try and scam free English lessons. They would always be friendly, but if they ever overheard someone mention Taiwan, even if it was just, "My flight from Taiwan was delayed", they would always have to inform us that Taiwan was China's. This isn't some sort of "LOL Chinese so dumb", and most of these happened in Mandarin, so it wasn't a language issue that put them at a disadvantage. I think it's like any other people on earth who want to debate a complete stranger who is in the middle of a private conversation based on hearing one word. . . they're dumb.
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Can you give an example of specifics they avoid? From what little I know, the history about who owns the island and the whole KTM vs CCP really muddies things. But I guess the main land isn't big on explaining the history of Taiwan other than they own it.
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Dicky mouse posted:Can you give an example of specifics they avoid? Getting a single "specific" would mean you are debating the most learned woumao in all of China. Any Here is a short list of specifics they will not touch/know nothing about/say are irrelevant to the topic - island history - current public opinion in Taiwan - US intervention/lack there of - What the mainland has to offer - why they would want to join the mainland - similarities/differences to Hong Kong - time apart/sins of the father/native population - military action/ability to actually take the island - the CCP willing to kill civilians to take Taiwan - China is peaceful, does not attack others - "flush toilets" saying (development differences) - literally any other point that is pertinent to the discussion
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There's also WELL AMERICAN INVADED IRAQ AND HAS A lovely FOREIGN POLICY SO CHINA CAN TOO IT'S ALL REAL POLITIK Or whatever bullshit. Each time you hear some dumb political opinions it's like you are stuck in some family reunion dinner and there's this retarded grandpa who just screams and yells. I wish Taiwan would just legislate homosexual marriage already
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caberham posted:There's also If you first identify that you are not American, you can usually prevent that one from cropping up, as it is designed (in their mind) to cause you to lose face rather than be used as a reason to justify a potential invasion.
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Dicky mouse posted:Can you give an example of specifics they avoid? Me: "You say the island has always been a part of China. What about the aboriginal populations that were constantly attacking Japanese ships and when the Japanese told the Chinese to do something about it China denied having any control over the island?" Them: "But Taiwan is a part of China." Me: "You say Taiwan belongs to China, but why can't China send police officers or soldiers to Taiwan? All of the soldiers in Taiwan are Taiwanese and they do not take orders from Beijing. Same with the police officers. They only listen to the government of Taiwan. Where are the Chinese soldiers? Where are the Chinese police officers?" Them: "But Taiwan is a part of China." Me: "You say Taiwan is just like Hong Kong, but Beijing can control the government of Hong Kong and change election results in Hong Kong. Why can't Beijing remove Tsai from office?" Them: "But Taiwan is a part of China."
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Here's a story of child abuse (not really): Lately, I've talking to this Chinese woman that's a little older than me. She added me and I immediately noticed her English and the words she used were very North American. I asked her if she was from the USA or Canada and she said she'd lived the past 15 years in Vancouver (LOL). She said she went to university there and enjoyed Canada very much and stayed on working, but decided when it was time to marry, she didn't want to rock the boat and marry a CBC, she wanted a man fresh from the source. She had her rich family hook her up with a man straight out of Guangdong and they got married and he was able to bring himself to Canada, too. She found out from the beginning that he was a crooked in all sorts of ways with money, other women, his past, everything, but she didn't want to lose face so she stayed married to him, and eventually they had a kid born in Canada. She wanted to be strong, but she said even her son was asking her why his dad was always gone or being weird. She used her son's understanding of the relationship to help her get divorced. The kid is almost 10 now, and she decided to move both of them back to China "for a little while, because he should understand China and learn Chinese culture and language properly." (Reddit's favorite excuse when it comes to raising their hybrids in Beijing). She hasn't lived here in nearly two decades and sees all the development and feels the "I am a proud Chinese" thing and believes all the media hyping China. She asked me my opinion and I said I didn't want to make her angry. She implored me to speak up, so I told her how I think the schools are garbage, the pollution in every possible substance he touches and ingests will probably affect his development, the Chinese superiority rhetoric, the racism and Us Against The World bullshit, and so on and so on. I said if she really wanted, she could get him Chinese tutoring lessons in Vancouver and continue speaking Chinese to him every day there instead of dragging him all the way to the Mainland. He could learn proper Chinese speaking, reading, and writing, be part of some cultural activities, and get the clean living and better education and healthcare he needs as a child in Canada. She thanked me for my input and said she has considered all of these things (LOL), and that she thinks right now he really needs to be in China and it will make him feel he is truly Chinese, because apparently this is really important (to her). The sad/funny part is that she admitted he said he really liked Canada and didn't want to move to China, and I told her she should have listened to him. She said they will "eventually" move back to Canada, but she thinks a few years in China will be good for him. RIP that kid. He'll probably be here until it's time for university, but the permanent damage will be done.
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Haier posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...%B3%B5%EC%82%AC pro-tip: if you're going to live in China, GTFO every winter
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Less than a month until I'm breathing the finest in Korean oxygen. Koreans invented air did you know?
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Haier posted:
I have hope for him, sure a clever person could twist a ten year old. But he was wise enough to see through his father (I assume because it was so blatant) and the propaganda machine isn't really geared to be cleaver with the whole sandwhich the lie in two truths kinda way. Imagine when his classmates tell him ducks don't fly? I think the mom had the me/vs them attitude hence the no CBC rule (they aren't really my people) and I bet on some level she doesn't like the idea of her son not being like her. She wants to bring him into her group but sadly I think its far too late for that.
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The Great Autismo! posted:pro-tip: if you're going to live in China, don't my friend, i have fixed your post for you
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Haier posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...%B3%B5%EC%82%AC Is there some better place in the world that hires token white employees?
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etalian posted:Is there some better place in the world that hires token white employees? Colombia. At least 4 years ago you could roll up to a tutoring school and have a job within twenty minutes on the basis of 'I'm an English speaking native'. The owner had me teach a lesson with their materials to their secretary (on prepositions, I had no idea what a proposition was but managed to bullshit through it). The pay was poo poo but I could work 25 hours a week and manage a middle class lifestyle. If I'd stuck around I'm pretty sure it would have been easy to start a school and make decent cash. The locals don't have apparently idiot logic that this thread says China has, but there are social quirks that would make it easy to get business done from a western mindset. Also Bogotá is at 3600m and has poo poo air quality so breathing can be hard, and people sometimes try and run you over so you could pretend you're in China if you want.
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It must be a strange feeling to have such a strong feeling of "national pride" that you're willing to give up everything that you know to be objectively better in order to try to pass that on to your offspring.
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nickmeister posted:It must be a strange feeling to have such a strong feeling of "national pride" that you're willing to give up everything that you know to be objectively better in order to try to pass that on to your offspring. My favourite part of this kid's future is the point where his mom says, "Ok, you have to go to Canada for university, it's much better". They apply to a few select universities and find themselves stuck in this weird "limbo" where the Registrars offices in the Canadian universities don't know what to do. The kid has the typical BS grades and TOEFL scores that every other applicant from China does. . . but he is a Canadian citizen, so they can't charge him 4x the going rate for tuition. "We're going to be getting a mainland Chinese student (with all the hassle that that entails), but he's going to be able to pay Canadian tuition rates. . . Pass!".
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Here's a pretty good documentary about how the Chinese won World War II https://youtu.be/fw0kg2GWVHo
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Blistex posted:
Haier Please bring this up with her! I must know her response
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Here's a pretty good documentary about how the Chinese won World War II I'm the one who fired 4 shots in 1 second using a bolt action rifle.
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