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"the free market will fix everything" *great depression happens* "automation will fix everything" *second great depression happens* I hope anyone in office actually reads history every now and then
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have ya'll see the matrix...
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Joementum posted:Bernie Sanders will get at least one electoral vote. 
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automation is inevitable. the only two solutions are 1. banning/punishing automation so that we employ people to do jobs that aren't really necessary just so they are employed or 2. taxing automating companies heavily and redistributing the money to displaced workers. one of these is absurd but relatively easy to do, the other makes sense but implies upending the entire international trade and capital regime that the us has promoted for decades. a bit tricky, but i think 2 will happen eventually. there's not really a true alternative.
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...i like it. the only time an american should be willing to meet a natzi halfway is when your fist meets their teeth.
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Concerned Citizen posted:encountered a person who insisted that "build that wall" really meant increased border security, and not a literal wall. Yeah except The Suarus posting wasn't great and was completely terrible
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Concerned Citizen posted:automation is inevitable. the only two solutions are 1. banning/punishing automation so that we employ people to do jobs that aren't really necessary just so they are employed or 2. taxing automating companies heavily and redistributing the money to displaced workers. one of these is absurd but relatively easy to do, the other makes sense but implies upending the entire international trade and capital regime that the us has promoted for decades. a bit tricky, but i think 2 will happen eventually. there's not really a true alternative. this has been posted a few times here but it's absolutely relevant to this entire thread http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200391.txt
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the white greasepaint working class
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Antifa folk are doing "The Right Thing" but I wish their fervency around fighting fascists extended to the actual real Problem today, capitalists
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paranoid randroid posted:i will stand in slightly baffled solidarity with juggalos if it comes down to that They won't even need training to fight in the streets. The only tricky part would be getting them to stop when we win
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:Antifa folk are doing "The Right Thing" but I wish their fervency around fighting fascists extended to the actual real Problem today, capitalists
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comedyblissoption posted:my suggestion is just to not bother with political labels and just have a concrete and specific progressive platform You are wrong. The american electorate just proved that they are nothing but a bunch of drooling idiots who will give a bloviating reality TV star nuclear codes. Platform doesn't matter, branding does. Their not going to buy into your progressive platform if it's got "socialism" stamped onto the front, because they've been in an echo chamber of conservative talk radio all their lives. Stop trying to bring the American people up to your level...they're a bunch of gullible, poo poo-smeared troglodytes who can be distracted by shiny objects and persuaded with weasel words. Come up with a different name for Socialism, or the right wins permanently.
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sir, this taco bell is closed
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:Antifa folk are doing "The Right Thing" but I wish their fervency around fighting fascists extended to the actual real Problem today, capitalists that's supposed to be your job. they're doing they're job why aren't you doing yours? are you a lazy worker, comrade???
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Concerned Citizen posted:automation is inevitable. the only two solutions are 1. banning/punishing automation so that we employ people to do jobs that aren't really necessary just so they are employed or 2. taxing automating companies heavily and redistributing the money to displaced workers. one of these is absurd but relatively easy to do, the other makes sense but implies upending the entire international trade and capital regime that the us has promoted for decades. a bit tricky, but i think 2 will happen eventually. there's not really a true alternative. the alternative is incredible death, which I feel is more likely at this point
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the longest of long-cons: juggaloes being the true vanguard. everybody expects the worst from them, so that's why they can fly under everybody's radar. then, when we least expect it, fully-automated faygo communism arrives.
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Concerned Citizen posted:automation is inevitable. the only two solutions are 1. banning/punishing automation so that we employ people to do jobs that aren't really necessary just so they are employed or 2. taxing automating companies heavily and redistributing the money to displaced workers. one of these is absurd but relatively easy to do, the other makes sense but implies upending the entire international trade and capital regime that the us has promoted for decades. a bit tricky, but i think 2 will happen eventually. there's not really a true alternative. The problem with 2 is that Republicans will scream that the second scenario is hurting employment because companies would give some of that tax money to workers and unemployed poor people will flock to them in droves as Republicans redistribute that money to themselves and their donors. I love this idea, I just wonder how to get to that point, if it's necessary. Without guillotines.
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logikv9 posted:sir this is an art gallery would you like to don-oh my god somebody is shooting I'm amazed that AP Photographer was able to take pictures of the whole thing without getting shot himself.
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Alter Ego posted:I made a hole and then barfed on the beach The Ted Cruz BLR videos are by far the best ones
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:the longest of long-cons: juggaloes being the true vanguard. everybody expects the worst from them, so that's why they can fly under everybody's radar. Eh, if the devil were to invade Germany, etc.
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Third place in the race to be president isn't too bad for a socialist.
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logikv9 posted:sir this is an art gallery would you like to don-oh my god somebody is shooting Is this meant to be a topical reference because uh
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tadashi posted:The problem with 2 is that Republicans will scream that the second scenario is hurting employment because companies would give some of that tax money to workers and unemployed poor people will flock to them in droves as Republicans redistribute that money to themselves and their donors. learn to love the guillotine
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tadashi posted:The problem with 2 is that Republicans will scream that the second scenario is hurting employment because companies would give some of that tax money to workers and unemployed poor people will flock to them in droves as Republicans redistribute that money to themselves and their donors. The guillotine would be faster.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:the longest of long-cons: juggaloes being the true vanguard. everybody expects the worst from them, so that's why they can fly under everybody's radar.
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the Dark Carnival turns out to be the Fifth International and we all have egg on our loving faces
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The Democrats: Down With The Clown
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and i dont wanna talk to a scientist because Lysenkoism is the true revolutionary methodology
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tadashi posted:Without guillotines. why would you do that
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:You are wrong. The american electorate just proved that they are nothing but a bunch of drooling idiots who will give a bloviating reality TV star nuclear codes. Platform doesn't matter, branding does. Their not going to buy into your progressive platform if it's got "socialism" stamped onto the front, because they've been in an echo chamber of conservative talk radio all their lives. Stop trying to bring the American people up to your level...they're a bunch of gullible, poo poo-smeared troglodytes who can be distracted by shiny objects and persuaded with weasel words. or just ya know the same thing the gop does but better. one voting precinct for an entire rural county, the only places that give out driver's licenses being in cities, etc. if they wanna play dirty, let's play loving dirty.
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:You are wrong. The american electorate just proved that they are nothing but a bunch of drooling idiots who will give a bloviating reality TV star nuclear codes. Platform doesn't matter, branding does. Their not going to buy into your progressive platform if it's got "socialism" stamped onto the front, because they've been in an echo chamber of conservative talk radio all their lives. Stop trying to bring the American people up to your level...they're a bunch of gullible, poo poo-smeared troglodytes who can be distracted by shiny objects and persuaded with weasel words. lmao axeil posted:or just ya know the same thing the gop does but better. double lmao
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axeil posted:or just ya know the same thing the gop does but better. hmmmm nah
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axeil posted:or just ya know the same thing the gop does but better. plus it has the word "abstinence" so they'll like that!
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Oh Snapple! posted:hmmmm then enjoy losing, because cheating and stacking the deck is the only way to win.
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Does trump now have the popular vote after Maine electing Sando
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HorseRenoir posted:yeah i'm not sure that option is very attractive in 2016 we just need a good reichstag fire or 9/11 again.
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"you know what will work? voter disenfranchisement but this time it benefits our side!"
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