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did any of you guys want to know the backstory of the doctor puppet from Star Wars 5?  One of Too-Onebee's earliest assignments found him serving the Galactic Empire on the planet Firro, a world recently subjugated by the Imperials. There, he was tasked with providing medical care to the civilians of Firro who were injured by Imperial atrocities. It was Too-Onebee's thankless job to mop up after what the Empire had left of the people there. After months of treating an unending parade of wounded, the number of people coming to see Too-Onebee began to decrease as the Empire settled in for a long occupation of the planet. It was then that the talented medical droid came under notice of Lord Cuvir, the newly proclaimed Governor of Firro while on an inspection of a crowded relief station. Cuvir, seeing the droid's determined efficiency and skill, took Too-Onebee as his own personal physician, ignoring the needs of the civilian wounded. Too-Onebee was distressed at having to leave the large numbers of wounded and disapproved of his new master's overbearing ways, but was forced to serve him faithfully in accordance with his overriding programming directive—to heal living beings no matter whom they might be. Nevertheless, he longed to serve those he thought were on the "right" side.[3] Too-Onebee's opportunity to do the "right" thing would soon come. He accompanied Lord Cuvir on a visit to the planet Wor Tandell. While inspecting the medical facilities at the governor's mansion, he witnessed the assassination of Cuvir at the hands of one of the governor's aides. Staying true to his programming, Too-Onebee attempted to treat the mortally wounded Cuvir, despite believing him to be the most evil being he had ever encountered. The droid soon discovered the aide to be an undercover Rebel agent who identified himself only as Tiree. The man was, in actuality, agent Tay Vanis. Vanis had been secretly collecting information on Imperial fleet movements in the Tandell system when he was discovered by Cuvir. Vanis was forced to kill the Governor to protect his mission. Too-Onebee believed the man, having long dreamed about the rumored Rebellion. He accompanied Vanis in his escape and joined the Rebel Alliance. The droid served with Vanis on a few missions before being assigned to his most important role for the Rebellion.[3] Along with FX-7, Too-Onebee arrived at Echo Base on Hoth and was quickly assigned as the head of the base infirmary. Too-Onebee was named chief of surgery.[3] The two medical droids treated a variety of injuries and patients, including Luke Skywalker's wampa scarring in 3 ABY. After the Battle of Hoth, Too-Onebee was evacuated aboard the GR-75 medium transport Bright Hope. After the transport was destroyed attempting to run the Imperial blockade, Too-Onebee reached the Rebel underground on the planet Darlyn Boda, where he served for a short time, before finally reaching the secret Rebel rendezvous point. There, he was immediately assigned to the EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Redemption to treat surviving wounded from Hoth.[4] Luke Skywalker was so impressed with the droid's skill and expertise that he specifically requested him to treat the wounds he sustained in his battle with Darth Vader on Bespin while recovering aboard the Redemption. Too-Onebee was reassigned to the Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Home One sometime thereafter, where he served during the Battle of Endor.[5][6][7] He continued to serve the New Republic after 4 ABY
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sure is a good thing that they gave that medical droid a frozen metal death gaze for a face
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Okay, I've just watched it. In my opinion, it's a better movie than Episode VII. Here is why. Because you fuckers can never explain why you like or dislike a thing directly. It's more sombre in tone, which is more fitting to the franchise than the quip banter funfest that was FA. Fan service, albeit very forced, was also less intrusive. You can't cut loving Solo and Falcon out of VII, but you can ignore C3PO, AT-ST, and even Wilhuff 'Tron 2' Tarkin wasn't particularly crucial to the story, which on one hand makes his appearance a bit more egregious, but on the other hand allowed for at least some modicum of freedom with the plot. On the topic of references, the director has also properly executed Lucas's 'it's like poetry' mantra with plenty of subtle shot composition references and stuff like that, unlike FA that copied Lucas's misguided approach of Episodes I to III where in every episode there's a Darth Vader figure, an Obi-Wan figure, etc., with almost shot-to-shot recreation of scenes from the original trilogy. And I imagine that the original vision was really light on fan service because of that. Arguably, though, the screenwriter(s) went a bit overboard with trying to make their characters different, so it cycled back into self-references. There's a man in dark armour with respiratory problems and missing limbs, but get this, he's not the bad guy. There's a dashing young man who's good with guns of dubious character, but get this, he's not some roguish mercenary with very limited moral code, but an idealist with a cause. There's a funny droid, but get this, his humour is dry and he's terrible at communicating with people. Still, better than all other new SW films at that. And again on the topic of references, but this time to other movies. Imo, it's good and cool that they have a Zatoichi character, a Saving Private Ryan-style D-Day landing and other things. I can't really remember anything like that in FA, where the main source of references was Star Wars. The Empire is shown as an ur-dictatorship, not just space-nazis. They are also ISIS, Stalinist Russia, North Korea, all rolled in one. Their anti-religious ideology is very pronounced in the movie, which sort of maybe builds toward Vader's ultimate repentance. So, yeah, lol at people who see some anti-Trump message and think it's good, and also lol at people who agree with that and think it's bad. And the most important thing, of course, is that every non-original franchise character has died, so there won't be any loving animated spin-offs, tv shows or any of that rubbish. At least that's my hope. A bold decision in the age of milking dry every teat of any dead cow. But also, the next movie stand-alone movie will be absolute and total garbage. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Fojar38 posted:sure is a good thing that they gave that medical droid a frozen metal death gaze for a face Look at his arms. Three giant fingers on each hand and elbows that have maybe 30 degrees of motion, and he's the head of surgery.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Look at his arms. Three giant fingers on each hand and elbows that have maybe 30 degrees of motion, and he's the head of surgery. ill bet that feedback comes out through its microphone mouth constantly while its giving news to patients
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Paladinus posted:
Jyn and Cassian are profoundly unlikeable characters with no character arc and no connection to the audience. Felicity Jones is an awful actress. Whitaker's performance is weird to no end. Mads is phoning it in for half his scenes. How is that for direct? Force Awakens has pathos, meaningful character relationships, character growth, and stakes. Aside from my affection for the minor characters, Rogue One had none of that.
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Paladinus posted:And the most important thing, of course, is that every non-original franchise character has died, so there won't be any loving animated spin-offs, tv shows or any of that rubbish. At least that's my hope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Rebels Joke's on you.
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Guy Goodbody posted:did any of you guys want to know the backstory of the doctor puppet from Star Wars 5? Is there anything about whether that droid did his medical internship at EmPalSuRecon?
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My fav thing about starwars "EU" and poo poo is that every background character, every cup, every wire dangling from every possible scene or deleted scene from the movies all have huge epic backstories that not only ridiculously inflate their importance but also make them the relative or some how linked to everyone else in some insane way. "Actually the cup seen on a table in a deleted scene on Bespin in Empire Strikes Back was originally a cup owned by an ancient master Jedi 500 years ago and was sold upon his death. He had willed the cup to his grand son, but on the condition that he not become a sith lord. his Grandson did become a sith lord so the cup became property of the state with no other legal inheritors. This grandson was also a distant relative of grand moff tarkin by the way. The cup's whereabouts for the last few centuries were unknown, but the local Bespin cafe owner found it when his brother, a mercenary (a long time competitor and frenemy of boba fett) found it when searching an abandoned ship that used to belong to luke's adoptive parent's great uncle. The cup was later stolen by an occupying imperial official who then drank himself to death. Due to the death of this imperial officer (an unknown distant relative's best friend of Lando's great great grandparent's cleaning lady) rebel agents were able to succeed in their plan to liberate Bespin after the destruction of the 2nd death star. It is rumoured that the cups are part of a set of 4, and who ever unites the cups may gain the power to create the dumbest 'fan service' lore imaginable in any fictional universe"
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Krinkle posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo&t=761s
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And now I've also watched the latest HitB, and I agree with RLM for the most part. Fan service was the worst part of this movie and with just a tiny bit of (rub my) back story, it could have been really good. But I still insist that it was better than FA. Also, to answer the question of what was the point of the whole movie if we already know what's going to happen in the original trilogy, the main theme of the movie, in my opinion, was basically Tolkien's favourite theme of a little person in a grand scheme of things. None of the main characters is a chosen one with some stupid prophecy attached to them, just a bunch of nobodies who follow the Force and have their own huge part in the epic story. I thought it was effective enough at that. Oh, and to clarify, the only thing from EU of SW that I've ever experienced was KotOR and maybe a couple of episodes of one of the CG cartoons, so I'm not completely worn out by idiotic sperging about cups and dangling wires. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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I don't think it will have any characters from Rogue One that weren't also in other main films of the franchise. So it's half a victory. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Yeah that's what I want to see more of. Just normal little people's cool stories. I'm loving sick of superheroes with grand destinies linked through fate.
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Paladinus posted:I don't think it will have any characters from Rogue One that weren't also in other main films of the franchise. So it's half a victory. http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-character-on-star-wars-rebels/ rip you
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mango sentinel posted:Jyn and Cassian are profoundly unlikeable characters with no character arc and no connection to the audience. Felicity Jones is an awful actress. Whitaker's performance is weird to no end. Mads is phoning it in for half his scenes. How is that for direct? The stakes are 5 anonymous planets getting blown up that has no impact on anything, the Deathstar is an actual menace in Rogue One. Also Felicity Jones is so much better than the Poor Man's Kiera Knightly we got in Force Awakens. FA was a Star Wars Disney Adventure and nobody felt like they were in real danger at any point. Rogue One was far from a great film but it was a good Star Wars movie and much better than FA in basically every way.
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Okay, none of the main characters from Rogue One. Just let me have this, man. Let me have this one thing.
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Vhak lord of hate posted:5 anonymous planets Was it me or did the movie invent too many planets? A New Hope - Tatooine, Alderaan (seen only briefly), Yavin IV Empire Strikes Back - Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin Return of the Jedi - Tatooine again, Endor This one had like 5-6 planets. Desert planet, Jyn's home planet (dirt Tatooine), Imperial record planet, Yavin IV again, and one I'm not remembering.
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Not sure if this was already brought up, but I liked the small nod to the Darth Vader shrine from the Nerd Talk video last year.
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Paladinus posted:I don't think it will have any characters from Rogue One that weren't also in other main films of the franchise. So it's half a victory. Doesn't Rebels take place before Rogue One? So the Rogue One characters can still show up next season!
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I agree with RLM on their take, though I was all for a gritty war movie about stars and wars and poo poo. I just thought the dark and gritty and war aspects were done way better in other movies, and if I just watched those and pretended they had lasers and AT-STs and poo poo I think I'd be OK as far as how necessary this movie is. Like the opening scene vs the opening scene in Inglorious Basterds, similar premise, kinda similar outcome. Even removing the gory bloody parts from the latter, it far, far outshines the former. Way more tension, way more at stake, you immediately felt for the father, the family, and the main character girl, vs. the former where who loving cares. I think their point is if you're going to play it safe at least make it fun, which I agree with. It doesn't do war-gritty all that well because it's Star Wars, so make it fun at least.
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Time to repost one of my favorite RLM videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo
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I'm so pissed off to hear several opinions ITT why can't you just agree with the RLM cast about everything so we can have peace on this cishet Earth it's Christmas in like a week FFS.
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Jay's laugh is becoming great. Has Rich been giving him lessons?
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Paladinus posted:Oh, and to clarify, the only thing from EU of SW that I've ever experienced was KotOR and maybe a couple of episodes of one of the CG cartoons, so I'm not completely worn out by idiotic sperging about cups and dangling wires. biowares star wars stuff is generally really good and takes place like 2000 years before the movies and they STILL need to stick to certain established star wars things
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This video gave us some of the best Rich Evans laughs in a long time too.
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turnways posted:I agree with RLM on their take, though I was all for a gritty war movie about stars and wars and poo poo. I just thought the dark and gritty and war aspects were done way better in other movies, and if I just watched those and pretended they had lasers and AT-STs and poo poo I think I'd be OK as far as how necessary this movie is. i can understand that. But i am still glad it was made so at least we have a gritty war star wars movie. what i am amused by is sure i think the trailers and stuff were misleading but if you listens to all the buzz from interviews even the first announcements. it was always going to be a real/gritty war movie. which i dont mind. I mean i guess i am that loving stereotype mike shits on, but that movie was what i wanted. but i agree with them that FA is a better movie because of actual likable or interesting characters. neither movie is perfect.
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I guess I have a different definition of "gritty" than most people because Rogue One wasn't gritty at all.
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One of my friends genuinely compared it to Saving Private Ryan so I called him a dumbass
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Vhak lord of hate posted:The stakes are 5 anonymous planets getting blown up that has no impact on anything, the Deathstar is an actual menace in Rogue One. Also Felicity Jones is so much better than the Poor Man's Kiera Knightly we got in Force Awakens. FA was a Star Wars Disney Adventure and nobody felt like they were in real danger at any point. Rogue One was far from a great film but it was a good Star Wars movie and much better than FA in basically every way. 
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WampaLord posted:I guess I have a different definition of "gritty" than most people because Rogue One wasn't gritty at all. It's based on quips per minute. If the QPM is too low the movie is dark and serious and gritty. You can have hyper-violence and hundreds of people being killed, genocide, what ever, just so long as the main characters don't seem too upset and have an amazing quotable one-liner or retort it's a "fun movie"
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Baronjutter posted:It's based on quips per minute. If the QPM is too low the movie is dark and serious and gritty. You can have hyper-violence and hundreds of people being killed, genocide, what ever, just so long as the main characters don't seem too upset and have an amazing quotable one-liner or retort it's a "fun movie" To me, a gritty war movie is something where they've been dug in for 2 days, holding on to some god forsaken piece of rock for no good reason, losing friends and limbs. That's what my mind pictures for gritty, not "pretty people with some dirt on em with space guns"
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mango sentinel posted:The stakes were whether Finn would embrace being a hero and if Kylo Ren could be redeemed. The mega weapon would always be destroyed. See this is what I liked about TFA, it had interesting characters. Starkiller base was always merely a backdrop to the real story, whereas the Death Star trench run was central to the climax of ANH.
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WampaLord posted:To me, a gritty war movie is something where they've been dug in for 2 days, holding on to some god forsaken piece of rock for no good reason, losing friends and limbs. Honestly if they had just remade Cross of Iron but with Imperial officers I would have been fine with this movie.
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grittiness is also a visual aesthetic so pretty people with dirt on them holding space guns that also have dirt on them surrounded by dirty spaceships could also qualify as "gritty" regardless of the plot
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The Archaic posted:Honestly if they had just remade Cross of Iron but with Imperial officers I would have been fine with this movie. lol imagine Disney green lighting that
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Quantum of Phallus posted:lol imagine Disney green lighting that Like an AT-ST walking toward the Imperial outpost casually stomping on a decapitated storm trooper covered in mud and blood. A rebel prisoner escapes but gets gunned down by rebel scouts just outside the outpost.
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WampaLord posted:To me, a gritty war movie is something where they've been dug in for 2 days, holding on to some god forsaken piece of rock for no good reason, losing friends and limbs. Star Wars was always WW II but it was dog fights and destroyers not ground combat. I think that is a major disconnect, the ace pilot should be fighting a TIE from another ship not the ground.
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Jose Oquendo posted:It took 18 years to build the first one, so I imagine they started building the second just a few years after they started the first one. Talking about counting your chickens before they hatch. Maybe they built 2 at the same time like in Contact. Paladinus posted:In my opinion, it's a better movie than Episode VII. Don't set the bar too high! monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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If they just added some more character development this movie would have been way better. Everyone's said it, and it's still true. I have a feeling the original version was far better but that's how it always seems to go. I'd like to see it one day but it'll never make it out.
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"AT-STs! AT-STs!"
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