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Haier posted:Besides the crap education and everything else, having 8-9 years of Face pounded into his every mannerism and choice is going to be permanent. It's not like he's just some Russian kid in the international school and nobody expects him to belong. His parents are both originally from China and he looks like everyone else and speaks the language. He's done for. Jesus, growing up in China is a death sentence even for the Chinese? The air pollution alone dissuaded me from ever visiting China. Is air pollution even a priority for the Chinese government?
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The Great Autismo! posted:Tianjin this past weekend these pictures make me really ambivalent about separating recycling from normal rubbish the world is hosed
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Construction everywhere, loads of coal power plants, dirty as gently caress industrial plants = that edit : also i wonder if they have any emission standards for cars? 
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Automatic Slim posted:Well there's some western medicine that seems to be catching on? Purdue Pharma is solely responsible for the current opoid epidemic ravaging America because in the late 90s Oxy was a last resort pain relief for cancer victims so Purdue spent billions aggressively marketing it to doctors as the new aspirin and suddenly this intensely powerful and addictive heroin like drug was getting prescribed for headaches and minor aches. With the FL pill mills prescribing millions of doses per year or more the drug flooded the market and suddenly people who'd never do heroin suddenly experience what heroin users did and once the pills dried up they had to get it somewhere else, from heroin. So obviously the US clamped down super hard on Oxy prescriptions making it near impossible to get now, so Purdue is looking to cash in by doing the same to other countries. Once Chinese people can buy Oxy at the store and add it to their TCM tea its going to loving wreck the population as everyone is suddenly high on opium again. pentyne fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Heroin use was going down with the rise of opioids and that implies to me at least it was supplanting an exceptionally dangerous demand that for sure put many addicts on a time table to die in 1-2 years,with a far safer, more manageable addiction that's only mostly dangerous one and frankly if I'm picking poison i would rather have the rx opioid epidemic over the heroin epidemic that is unsurprisingly on the rise after crackdowns on script docs
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someone post that story about the restaurant using opium poppy seeds in their noodles to get their customers addicted
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Jose posted:someone post that story about the restaurant using opium poppy seeds in their noodles to get their customers addicted All edible poppy seeds are opium poppy seeds.
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there are a shitload of poppy genera are really the only edible ones the ones that get you high/?
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basic hitler posted:there are a shitload of poppy genera are really the only edible ones the ones that get you high/? Yes, the only cultivated species of poppy is the opium poppy, which is where we get poppy seeds from. If you eat poppy seeds you will test positive for opiate use because the seeds contain varying amounts of morphine. Nice edit btw.
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poppy seed extract
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basic hitler posted:Heroin use was going down with the rise of opioids and that implies to me at least it was supplanting an exceptionally dangerous demand that for sure put many addicts on a time table to die in 1-2 years,with a far safer, more manageable addiction that's only mostly dangerous one and frankly if I'm picking poison i would rather have the rx opioid epidemic over the heroin epidemic that is unsurprisingly on the rise after crackdowns on script docs But it drew in a lot of casual drug users who had never thought of sticking a needle into their veins and got them addicted to the opoid high and once the supply dried up heroin was their only alternative. Given how insanely cheap heroin is compared to oxy you can see how that spiraled out of control. Just one example, but once the FL pill mills starting drying up and oxy got more and more expensive people looked for alternatives and moved straight on to black tar heroin. In Northern VA where heroin wasn't a big deal suddenly in the 2010s the cases started to drastically rise as all the affluent people and rich kids in the area had to find a replacement for their prescription abuse. In the mid-late 2000s there was a spate of heroin overdose deaths in Fairfax county from a bunch of young privileged kids. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/22/AR2008112202240.html?hpid=topnews pentyne fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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I just see it in terns not unlike alcoholism in that its life destroying but at least You're not fueling a cartel murder spree across three continents, spreading hiv, and setting yourself up to shed your mortal coil that will devastate anyone who ever cared about you. We need more modern approaches and attitudes to addiction management in this country, not crackdowns that ultimately pushes script addicts to the black market
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In BC there is a massive epidemic of deaths from opiate overdoses due to Chinese fentanyl. It is being put into practically every street drug available (except weed). It is so bad that police have started to carry naloxone so they can prevent people who overdosed from dying before paramedics arrive. Over 600 deaths so far this year. My younger sister was one of the first. 
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basic hitler posted:I just see it in terns not unlike alcoholism in that its life destroying but at least You're not fueling a cartel murder spree across three continents, spreading hiv, and setting yourself up to shed your mortal coil that will devastate anyone who ever cared about you. We need more modern approaches and attitudes to addiction management in this country, not crackdowns that ultimately pushes script addicts to the black market no it just leads to that excessively after the fact like i get fentanyl is an opiate and its cheap but killing off your customer base because its so insanely strong seems like a bad idea to me instead of just adding chinese baby milk formula
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McGavin posted:In BC there is a massive epidemic of deaths from opiate overdoses due to Chinese fentanyl. It is being put into practically every street drug available (except weed). It is so bad that police have started to carry naloxone so they can prevent people who overdosed from dying before paramedics arrive. Over 600 deaths so far this year. My younger sister was one of the first. dang that sucks really bad, sorry to hear that.
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its because the fentanyl is getting cut with carfentanil or its just straight up carfentanil being added to the heroin. carfentanil, for those not aware is an extremely regulated opiate used as an elephant tranquilizer. poo poo cannot even be handled without gloves without loving you up. Countries like the USA limit domestic manufacturing of the drug to 19 grams annually across all manufacturers, yet someone was caught in canada recently with a loving kilogram of the poo poo.
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That was always the thing people would say to demonize drugs use. "You don't know what it's laced with!! It could be filled with rat poison and razor blades!" but it never made any sense because dealers don't want to immediately murder their clients.
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Drug tests also can't tell the difference between fentanyl and carfentanyl because they are so similar chemically, so nobody really knows how much carfentanyl is out there.
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The economy of lacing weed you sell at weed prices makes no sense. But economically it makes a shitload of sense to replace as much heroin as possible with easier to source and lower active dose opioids. It means the cut is harder to detect until autopsy and you're making a fuckload more money
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But it's not sustainable if you're killing all your clients. I'd expect this sort of irrational and short sighted behavior from a modern capitalist, not from a fair minded drug dealer.
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Baronjutter posted:But it's not sustainable if you're killing all your clients. I'd expect this sort of irrational and short sighted behavior from a modern capitalist, not from a fair minded drug dealer. drug dealing with chinese characteristics make as much money in as short amount of time as possible and have it hidden/skip town before any consequences appear
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Jesus, growing up in China is a death sentence even for the Chinese? The air pollution alone dissuaded me from ever visiting China. Is air pollution even a priority for the Chinese government? Children in several major chinese cities do not know that you can see stars in the night sky. It isn't because of light pollution.
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That's a very common source of freaking out by Japanese exchange students too though.
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Baronjutter posted:But it's not sustainable if you're killing all your clients. I'd expect this sort of irrational and short sighted behavior from a modern capitalist, not from a fair minded drug dealer. There's a lot of factors involved. Short term vs. long term profits and risk (i.e. maintaining a cultivated customer base in a given area can be much riskier than selling your cut stash and moving on as it gives LEO more time and opportunities to find you). There's also the number of middlemen involved between the drug manufacturer and the consumer. The further away you are from the consumer, the less likely whoever's buying from you is going to stop for whatever reason, especially if they also cut it to increase their own profits.
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Well at the moment the rational thing to do would to stop buying the street drugs you're currently addicted to.
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Baronjutter posted:Well at the moment the rational thing to do would to stop buying the street drugs you're currently addicted to. Have you not seen TCC?
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Baronjutter posted:Well at the moment the rational thing to do would to stop buying the street drugs you're currently addicted to. addiction isnt rational
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This only came up two or three times, but I immediately pounced on it, then regretted it, because "logic".  Why do you want to force everyone in Taiwan to join China if you think it is bad and want to get out? Because Taiwan is part of China. Why does that matter to you? Why should they lose their freedoms and quality of life? You are not Chinese, you do not understand. You understand they don't want to loose what they have built and fought for right? You are not Chinese, you do. . . <I walk away mid sentence>
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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1883171-in-china-good-samaritan-insurance-protects-you-from-the-conniving-elderly/ "In China, ‘Good Samaritan’ Insurance Protects You From the Conniving Elderly" Epoc times of course, but still lol
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I was looking over risk assessment paperwork at work today. There were two items with the most weight attached to them. 1. Is there a single supplier or multiple suppliers? 2. Are the suppliers from China or India? Or are they from anywhere else? lol
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JaucheCharly posted:I've got a business idea. Ghosts don't like the smell of cheese and beer. They're also quite afraid of Teddy Roosevelt-style thundering laughs. Hey you just invented taoism rituals
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Blistex posted:This only came up two or three times, but I immediately pounced on it, then regretted it, because "logic". That's one thing I truly loving hate the most in the world. Chinese students who are lucky enough to study overseas or live in democratically free countries yet spout off CCP bullshit. They need to get hosed and go back to commie land. There are enough boot licker jobs for them to have in the mainland. At least have the loving balls to say china and Taiwan should be together under a democratic system. Heck I would be their fresh off the boat North America fixer buddy if they say east Asian governments should be more democratic and transparent, there should be a giant union like EU with freedom of travel anywhere
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caberham posted:Heck I would be their fresh off the boat North America fixer buddy if they say east Asian governments should be more democratic and transparent, there should be a giant union like EU with freedom of travel anywhere Like some kind of co-prosperity sphere?
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I knew someone would say that. But without the killing and crazy militarism. An actual working one
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caberham posted:That's one thing I truly loving hate the most in the world. Chinese students who are lucky enough to study overseas or live in democratically free countries yet spout off CCP bullshit. In a lot of those cases, the kids have a pretty one-sided view of the CCP. Most of their parents are rich directly because of their connections in the party, so it has been nothing but good for them. They know that there are poor people in China, but since they themselves are happy with how things turned out in their lives, they assume that everyone else must be as well. I know I'm painting with a pretty wide brush here, but there is a massive problem with Chinese citizens taking CCP talking points, and running with them, never looking back, or asking why they are running in the first place. A lot of it comes back to logic, and how it's a semi-alien concept to a lot of people in China in the sense that you come to a conclusion based on observations and facts, not someone telling you and you never questioning it because it would mean both parties lose face. I can't think of anything off the top of my head right now, but when my wife and I first got married there were a few things that she believed that were obviously not true. Some were medical, some were historical. I didn't try and hammer them out of her, but as she spend more time in Canada she started looking at things more objectively and discovered that a lot of things she took for granted were not true. Ironically enough, Youtube was a great teaching tool as she had access to Chinese content videos that would otherwise have been banned in the mainland, and that sort of opened her eyes. It's not that close-minded people from China are dumb, it's just that they have been exposed to a system that is much more "absolute" in its edicts, and there is much less room for discussion and debate. Even now, if we have an argument about something she will occasionally try throwing in the "and you lynch Negroes" tactic, and try and prove me wrong on a point by bringing up an instance where I was wrong before, but is totally unrelated to what is currently being discussed. It's as hard a habit to break as our, "western thinking is the only thinking" bias that we sometimes show.
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caberham posted:I knew someone would say that. But without the killing and crazy militarism. An actual working one So more like a Pacific Partnership, got it. (But seriously, it would be cool and good and I'm sad the world seems to be moving in the opposite direction)
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People from loving fellow western democratic english-speaking commonwealth countries can't even visit let alone immigrate or work without all sorts of border control nightmares. it's really bad and the "anglosphere" is some of the worst.
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I never question their intelligence because they are capable of running multinational tax shelters grifting crazy amounts of money. It's their privileged hypocrisy which gets to me. It's basically all the mega mainland money in Hong Kong getting down on their knees and sticking their tongues out for the CCP. Praising the virtues of a free society and market economy at the same time blaming democracy for generating pluralism. But this time in Canada. They need to get hosed. Man you guys should date or marry people with better political opinions. Lots of mainlanders, especially the talented ones actually have integrity and refuse to drink the koolaid. There are still people who chuckle about CCTV news special reports.
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Blistex posted:she will try and prove me wrong on a point by bringing up an instance where I was wrong before, but is totally unrelated to what is currently being discussed. wow, every woman that I've ever dated has secretly been Chinese
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caberham posted:That's one thing I truly loving hate the most in the world. Chinese students who are lucky enough to study overseas or live in democratically free countries yet spout off CCP bullshit. If I were a student there, I'd have reported her to somebody for being a hateful piece of poo poo and used the photos of her tearing down the posters, but I wouldn't even know the first place to start on a campus that big. Edit: The girl was the typical 1%er and obviously daddy's corruption money was treating her very well. Haier fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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