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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. Who the hell is saying we have to pretend racism doesn't exist?
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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. who exactly are you satirizing here quote me a post where anyone has ever said anything like this
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Bill Buckner posted:Real Socialism is what sunk Atlantis, it doesn't work either.
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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. you wouldn't have to worry about your candidate refusing to support blm because black people didn't turn out for hillary if you didn't vote for triangulating centrists
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Unions Stake Out Positions in Battle for DNC Chair, up at the American Prospect. Obviously the AFL-CIO has endorsed Ellison already, and the public sector unions are all for him. The Tradesmen are dragging their feet, Firefighters are backing Perez.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:The free market will solve everything, much like it solved environmental homeostasis the working class having wealth
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docbeard posted:Has Chelsea given even the faintest indication of being interested in running for office other than haphazardly campaigning for her mom for like ten minutes? Yeah she wants to run as a congressional rep for her district in 2018
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Agean90 posted:Cheyenne Im thinking about starting a DSA chapter in cos, I'll make sure to post in the DPP thread if I do.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Yeah she wants to run as a congressional rep for her district in 2018 Do you know her district?
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Yeah she wants to run as a congressional rep for her district in 2018 supposedly, but that was from the nypost and they are basically always wrong
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GalacticAcid posted:Do you know her district? the rumor was nita lowey's seat, but there's no reason to think, at least as of now, that lowey is planning on retiring in the next few years
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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. Maybe the problem was that people with valid concerns that weren't exclusively race related just weren't called racists hard enough.
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Im the guy making six figgys explaining to people living in trailer parks how they need to check their Privilege.
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Concerned Citizen posted:the rumor was nita lowey's seat, but there's no reason to think, at least as of now, that lowey is planning on retiring in the next few years Also maybe what with Hillary's loss the plans for Chelsea's future were thrown into disarray. But then again Liz Cheney is in Congress, so hope is a lie.
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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. How long are you going to keep railing against strawmen instead of talking to real people in this thread and perhaps engaging with the things they've actually said? I mean at least this time you let someone else build the strawman, I guess. Getting racists to support candidates who will fight against racism is a good thing.
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who wants to see how bad things will get? https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1da4_story.html
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Ace of Baes posted:Im the guy making six figgys explaining to people living in trailer parks how they need to check their Privilege. Im the guy explaining that 6 figs is really basically nothing and that this other guy is a noble ascetic spreading the gospel of White Death
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GlyphGryph posted:
Since resources are usually pretty thin in rebuilding processes maybe wouldn't the better focus be on the people who mainly didn't show up at all rather than dumping efforts into convincing racists that we're actually secretly on their side
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Since resources are usually pretty thin in rebuilding processes maybe wouldn't the better focus be on the people who mainly didn't show up at all rather than dumping efforts into convincing racists that we're actually secretly on their side Many of the people who didn't show up are still probably racists. Lots of people who already voted Democrat and who we need are probably pretty racist too. I was more directly responding to the idea that if we let racists vote for us, or if we try to appeal to groups that contain racists (like the specific demoralized voters you mentioned) we are somehow coddling their racism or pretending racism doesn't exist, rather than making any kind of commentary on where resources should be allocated.
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crazy cloud posted:Im the guy explaining that 6 figs is really basically nothing and that this other guy is a noble ascetic spreading the gospel of White Death on the one hand, it really comes down to cost of living and income margin and also wealth is ultimately the core metric of bourgeois fuckery, on the other hand, unless you live in a major coastal city like SF or NYC then 6figs is more than enough to live comfortably.
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GlyphGryph posted:Many of the people who didn't show up are still probably racists. Lots of people who already voted Democrat and who we need are probably pretty racist too. racists can vote for us all they want, but we will not budge on equality and justice for all.
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Just how many racists do some of you think voted for Obama?
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Accretionist posted:Just how many racists do some of you think voted for Obama? every obama voter was racist against white ppl or they would have voted for senator maverick, QED
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Pollyanna posted:on the one hand, it really comes down to cost of living and income margin and also wealth is ultimately the core metric of bourgeois fuckery, on the other hand, unless you live in a major coastal city like SF or NYC then 6figs is more than enough to live comfortably. this thread taught me that 120k isn't that much lmao
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GlyphGryph posted:Many of the people who didn't show up are still probably racists. Lots of people who already voted Democrat and who we need are probably pretty racist too. well you do get why someone would be wary of that right? Like, historically the best and most effective way to appeal to racists is, ya know, be racist. Like, how do you appeal to the guy who genuinely believes welfare programs are made to funnel money to the scary minorities to live high on the hog without playing into his worldview? It's not like we've never tried to kill stupid myths like that. Call me naive but I think Trump was pretty good at getting the bigot vote, I'm sure stay at home voters who also happen to have some opinions about 'the blacks' exist but I think he did a good job if appealing to a nice big chunk of them
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:The free market will solve everything, much like it solved You just don't understand the Real Free Market, which would have saved Atlantis. 
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Main Paineframe posted:yeah, but black people didn't really turn out to vote for hillary in the general, so instead of making a real effort to appeal to them we're just gonna throw them under the bus and go all-in on white people. it worked in the 90s, after all. this is so dnd it hurts make it stop Tatum Girlparts posted:well you do get why someone would be wary of that right? Like, historically the best and most effective way to appeal to racists is, ya know, be racist. Like, how do you appeal to the guy who genuinely believes welfare programs are made to funnel money to the scary minorities to live high on the hog without playing into his worldview? It's not like we've never tried to kill stupid myths like that. this is so dnd it hurts make it stop
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Pollyanna posted:racists can vote for us all they want, but we will not budge on equality and justice for all. Exactly. You do that by loudly advocating for things they do value that aren't contrary to your fight against racism at the same time as you loudly advocate for fighting racism.
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Bill Buckner posted:You just don't understand the Real Free Market, which would have saved Atlantis. Atlantis must have been using Dumb Trade instead of Free Trade. SAD!
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Hot Take: I don't care about racists.
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Lastgirl posted:this is so dnd it hurts this thread isn't in dnd???
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my favorite part of that meteor video is that death comes for all and its not exceptional so racism doesnt matter, economy doesn't matter the only thing that will be exceptional is the manner of how you are killed me well, i hope ill be showered by the moten core fragments suck it death by dust-filled debris suffocation people  ill be super jealous of the people being flung out into space but are already dead by the shockwave force  think they're so better than us
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Ace of Baes posted:Im the guy making six figgys explaining to people living in trailer parks how they need to check their Privilege. If we could have just sent the "2017 Resolutions For White Guys" video out to rural white voters in crucial swing states in a Jeb!-style LCD mailer surely Hillary would have won!
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Pollyanna posted:who wants to see how bad things will get? Poland was using leased North Korean slave labor in their construction projects years ago. Poland was never great.
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Lastgirl posted:my favorite part of that meteor video is that i want to be on one of those continents that gets slowly peeeeeeeeled up
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Hot Take: I don't care about racists. you dont care about.... *whips sheet off mirror pointed at ur face* YOURSELF???
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Al! posted:i want to be on one of those continents that gets slowly peeeeeeeeled up gross, one of those death by earthquake people so much worse than the death by tsunami people yer dead 2 me
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