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Not listed: buying books. Independent bookstores are for selling liberal coastal smugness.
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CrumFUNist! posted:At this point Vice, Slate, Salon, Vox, HuffPo etc are all the same lovely site. Gawker is at an unattainable level of terrible and was not included in that list on purpose. I'd argue that if I wanted to get more nitty-gritty on poo poo but I agree with you that they're kinda the same umbrella of headline based, preaching to the choir, news sites that mainly exist to affirm beliefs rather than do major reporting aside from very rare exceptional events.
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Serf posted:Pokemon Go to Hell is unironically better than Pokemon Go to the Polls man this sequel to All Dogs Go To Heaven is dark
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logikv9 posted:gawker is dead, though Its sites like Jezebel and Deadspin are still alive and other than Deadspin's Why Your Team Sucks, there's no redeeming value to their properties.
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GlyphGryph posted:and I, for one, am glad see i don't like gawker but the way it died, at the hands of peter "cocaine" thiel was just ugh. and the lawyers behind it are going to use those same tactics versus other sites that aren't as widely despised
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That DICK! posted:Is that the chvrches  That's Mandy Moore
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logikv9 posted:the image he posted literally has lines for "name" "address" and "political party", he could've put a nice black box over address Okay I get what you mean now, sorry about being dense. He seems kind of lazy so I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of doing extra work never occurred to him.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Oh man, I hope I didn't miss "how much I hate Lena Dunham" chat cause I've been saving up a good one. Thinking "<thing x> is part of what made Lena Dunham Lena Dunham!" is a good selling point for thing X is the most loving Lena Dunham thing
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The Nastier Nate posted:Oh man, I hope I didn't miss "how much I hate Lena Dunham" chat cause I've been saving up a good one. Do you think she has ever bought a book from an independent bookstore
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Why your team sucks The Browns causes asphyxiation.
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GlyphGryph posted:Okay I get what you mean now, sorry about being dense. I am totally willing to believe it was laziness rather than malice yea.
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American Prospect has a longform up that explores attitudes of the white working class that are ideologically fluid. There is support there for progressive ideas like higher taxes on the rich to help poorer communities, but these are also tied with an institutional distrust of government with all the "run it like a household" this implies. As a result, the GOP has an institutional advantage there for as long as that attitude holds and for as long as the Democrats were visibly in charge. So yeah, genuine economic populism has potential, but it'll require direct localized dialogue with these communities. If the Republicans shift back to record deficit spending and grift as we saw in the Bush years, there could conceivably be a path forward by railing against obvious corruption. The backlash against the bathroom law in North Carolina might also be an example of something to target, as many working-class whites are ambivalent to LGBT rights, but oppose active persecution if its blatant enough. A nationwide Moral Mondays-style response to things like that, coupled with "they're wasting time on this while our factory jobs leave?" could have potential as a narrative. http://prospect.org/article/mapping-white-working-class
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logikv9 posted:the image he posted literally has lines for "name" "address" and "political party", he could've put a nice black box over address Over info publically available and already shared by multiple outlets online. Yeah sure, buddy.
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Nonsense posted:every place should remove comment boxes And as a followup any journalist who uses twitter, facebook, or reddit comments as the basis for a story, or for quotes in a story should be fired the moment they hit "submit" on that story.
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Unless that story is "internet comments are terrible and not worth the paper they aren't printed on".
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Thoguh posted:And as a followup any journalist who uses twitter, facebook, or reddit comments as the basis for a story, or for quotes in a story should be fired the moment they hit "submit" on that story. Rip cnn
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new phone who dis posted:Over info publically available and already shared by multiple outlets online. Yeah sure, buddy. "Publicly available" is a dumb statement. There's a lot of info publicly available, but if it's presented as "This is the address of a Democrat garbage person" it takes on a very different meaning!" Context matters.
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I was busy writing up the duel from An New Hope with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton replacing Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader but then I realized that would probably count as primary salt also it would be way too optimistic for me logikv9 posted:see i don't like gawker but the way it died, at the hands of peter "cocaine" thiel was just ugh. and the lawyers behind it are going to use those same tactics versus other sites that aren't as widely despised I never had a problem with gawker and still don't, but holy poo poo the tactics of Thiel are scary as gently caress and really do not make me feel good about the future of the free press
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cnns writing a story using my posts as a source and boy, let me tell ya, its dire
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logikv9 posted:Rip cnn and I, for one, am glad
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Thoguh posted:And as a followup any journalist who uses twitter, facebook, or reddit comments as the basis for a story, or for quotes in a story should be fired the moment they hit "submit" on that story. The Bernie Bro Narrative Yeah though I actually think Traditional Journalism is super important and they undermine themselves by relying on dumb social-media rumor-mill poo poo just as much as end-users do
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/DavidPontious/status/811295066618634240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I'm not sure what an internal video department is or does so it might be a lateral move
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Studio posted:"Publicly available" is a dumb statement. There's a lot of info publicly available, but if it's presented as "This is the address of a Democrat garbage person" it takes on a very different meaning!" Context matters. It wasn't presented in that way at all. It was presented as "this is evidence this public figure lied to millions of people."
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GlyphGryph posted:I'm not sure what an internal video department is or does so it might be a lateral move quote:Historically, the media center has been used by senators to craft videos for their constituents in their home states. But with the Democratic National Committee in some turmoil until a new chairman is selected and the party losing the White House, the 48-member Democratic minority views itself as the party's chief messaging arm next year, according to a Democratic leadership aide.
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GlyphGryph posted:I'm not sure what an internal video department is or does so it might be a lateral move id imagine they work on those meaningless little videos that senators cut for, like, christmas things for their constituents so, like, who gives a gently caress
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/DavidPontious/status/811295066618634240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Somehow they'll blow 1.2 billion on this too.
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GlyphGryph posted:I think the only problem is that they're taking too long to fire the next batch as well. pre-emptively fire all democrats
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CrumFUNist! posted:Somehow they'll blow 1.2 billion on this too. "Hello, Lena? It's Chuck here. Look we just cleaned house and really need to tap into the millenials for the good of the country l. We need a Sensual Pantsuit for Sanders, if you will. Will you help us and save the country the only way you know how?"
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new phone who dis posted:It wasn't presented in that way at all. It was presented as "this is evidence this public figure lied to millions of people." The address isn't part of the evidence though. Like that's the problem, the address adds nothing. It doesn't make Dunham more or less of a garbage person, it doesn't make the evidence more or less correct (Like are people going to crosscheck for other Lena Dunham's?), it doesn't do anything but up the odds that some rear end in a top hat actually goes to her address to do something. 99.9% of the people wouldn't even think about going to that address, but it only takes one idiot to cause harm. If it was crucial to share her address to point out her lying, then there's a reason to show it.
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Like physical force, doxxing is probably bad unless it involves Nazis.
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Thoguh posted:Like physical force, doxxing is probably bad unless it involves Nazis. you mean unless it's against nazis it has involved nazis quite often
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Thoguh posted:Like physical force, doxxing is probably bad unless it involves Nazis. leave the doxxing to the professionals at NSA please
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Studio posted:The address isn't part of the evidence though. Like that's the problem, the address adds nothing. It doesn't make Dunham more or less of a garbage person, it doesn't make the evidence more or less correct (Like are people going to crosscheck for other Lena Dunham's?), it doesn't do anything but up the odds that some rear end in a top hat actually goes to her address to do something. 99.9% of the people wouldn't even think about going to that address, but it only takes one idiot to cause harm. If it was crucial to share her address to point out her lying, then there's a reason to show it. Somewhere Gwyneth Paltrow is sending a fruit basket and a thank you card to Lena Dunham for taking from her the mantle of "most hated smug white lady"
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