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wicka posted:What? The suggestion was that cars grenading all the time is somehow entertaining. It is. It allows cars that perhaps not make it to the points on pure pace alone were able to because they outlasted their competition.
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Human Grand Prix posted:It is. It allows cars that perhaps not make it to the points on pure pace alone were able to because they outlasted their competition. It's not. It's a concession that you can't make F1 entertaining so let's just blow things up.
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wicka posted:you can't make F1 entertaining I agree.
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If you want F1 to be more competitive, shouldn't you try to make F1 more competitive? And not just blow up the fast cars so the slow cars have a chance? That's silly. And like clockwork, here we go again with 
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I like it when engines grenade because I'm an uncouth American who likes explosions.
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Minto Took posted:I like it when engines grenade because I'm an uncouth American who likes explosions. We should let Michael Bay direct an F1 race
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GramCracker posted:We should let Michael Bay direct an F1 race Other posters, take note: this is what a good suggestion looks like.
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GramCracker posted:We should let Michael Bay direct an F1 race Lewis is no Will Smith.
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wicka posted:Because it's just random. It's entertaining when drivers fail on their own, not when they are the victims of poo poo entirely out of their control. Button's win in Canada, for example, wouldn't have been anywhere near as sweet if Vettel hadn't hosed up under pressure. What if Vettel's engine just lets go there? Takes all the shine off that performance. This is motorsport. Cars blowing up isn't random, it's down to how much risk the builder and drivers make. It's removing a variable from the sport.
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Too bad F1 cars can't blow up like this: For the record, it's a tire failure in the most spectacular fashion iospace fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Alain Post posted:This is motorsport. Cars blowing up isn't random, it's down to how much risk the builder and drivers make. It's removing a variable from the sport. It's random and it's bad and I legit STILL can't understand why every god drat month we have a new conversation about how something terrible from 80s F1 is actually good and needs to be brought back. Can we just start a separate thread for F1 nostalgia?
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My 1984 Volkswagen Scirocco does not blow up anywhere near the same frequency as a F1 car does. I think the professor may have a point.
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Also, if we don't want cars blowing up, that means Ferrari has to withdraw effective immediately.
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Not to mention the fact that increased unreliability benefits literally zero people within F1, so it's not something anyone sane would ever pursue or attempt to implement.
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wicka posted:It's random and it's bad and I legit STILL can't understand why every god drat month we have a new conversation about how something terrible from 80s F1 is actually good and needs to be brought back. Can we just start a separate thread for F1 nostalgia? It is not random, as evidenced by the fact that some cars from some makers blew up a lot and some blew up less often.
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wicka posted:Not to mention the fact that increased unreliability benefits literally zero people within F1, so it's not something anyone sane would ever pursue or attempt to implement. It benefits you, the loyal viewer.
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Speaking of nostalgia, does the current Concorde agreement still cap the field at 24 cars or was that quietly dropped?
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Alain Post posted:It benefits you, the loyal viewer. No it doesn't. It makes the sport worse, in virtually every way. If you want smaller teams to be able to beat bigger teams then we should increase funding to them, not try to shoehorn in bad ideas that we justifiably fixed years ago.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Speaking of nostalgia, does the current Concorde agreement still cap the field at 24 cars or was that quietly dropped? I don't think they'd be opposed to more teams but the health of the teams is a lot better than it was a few years ago so I think theres a bit less urgency behind it.
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learnincurve posted:Cheshire. It's where we keep all our sporty people. Oxfordshire is also an acceptable option for those who want to keep a flat in London. I live in Cheshire and agree. There are plenty of tasteless multi million pound mansions for him and a vibrant gay community down the road in Manchester
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http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/massa-accepts-offer-to-stay-at-williams-in-2017-860616/ Bottas to MB then it would seem
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Johnnie Walker joining Force India next year: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127543/force-india-secures-johnnie-walker-deal And for some reason still sticking with McLaren. Doesn't Diageo basically owns Force India, though, so I doubt there's any money being paid.
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scheissmacht posted:http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/massa-accepts-offer-to-stay-at-williams-in-2017-860616/ Just as Their Rossie was kicking off Silly Season with a bang, the most boring thing happens.
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quote:Williams today announces that Pat Symonds will be stepping down from the role of Chief Technical Officer of WILLIAMS MARTINI RACING at the end of 2016. Busy day at Williams
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Bottas to Mercedes, Massa to postpone retirement: http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38384982
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Im of two minds about this. Bottas to Mercedes is literally the most boring thing in the world but I'm glad Massa gets another year at Williams in place of the charisma vacuum that is Bottas.
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1500quidporsche posted:Im of two minds about this. Bottas to Mercedes is literally the most boring thing in the world but I'm glad Massa gets another year at Williams in place of the charisma vacuum that is Bottas. I feel exactly the opposite. Bottas to Mercedes is fine but replacing him with Massa basically ruins silly season.
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PT6A posted:Bottas to Mercedes, Massa to postpone retirement: loving hell. Could anything more boring happen?
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Norns posted:loving hell. Could anything more boring happen? Williams couldve brought in Diresta.
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Massa already had a teary farewell, the higher powers will not be pleased, he will have a serious accident next year
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Would love to know how much Mercedes is paying Williams for this. quote:An initial offer of a reduction of 10m euros (£8.4m) in their Mercedes engine bill was rejected but Williams will release Bottas for a better offer, which is expected to be close to their full engine bill of 17m euros (£14.3m).
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scheissmacht posted:http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/massa-accepts-offer-to-stay-at-williams-in-2017-860616/ It was hard to make Williams' line-up worse but they pulled it off
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The Italian version of Motorsport.com has an article stating that Are Ron and some Chinese lenders are making a bid to buy Manor
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GramCracker posted:The Italian version of Motorsport.com has an article stating that Are Ron and some Chinese lenders are making a bid to buy Manor That'd own.
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