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Ace of Baes posted:Being rich is not fine, at least not as rich as the ruling class currently is, their wealth is derived from the exploitation of others, see: Marx's Labor Theory of Value. Well, they got that way by either directly taking advantage of or setting up a system that takes advantage of people who are not rich, so we don't disagree.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:"I'm so close to having a super baby and my own pod on the space station, if only my taxes weren't so drat high!!!!" lmao, what do you know
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Ace of Baes posted:The idea of it being ok to be super wealthy as long as there aren't poor disenfranchised Americans is only possible if you're ok with the third world getting exploited even more than it currently is to make sure the super wealthy in America don't have to give up their 5th vacation home to pay their workers fairly. It's probably possible to be super wealthy without there being poor and disenfranchised anyone, we have a lot of production capacity and we're only gonna have more as time goes by because it's often cheaper to exploit robot machines than poor people and it's okay to exploit robots. But even then there'd have to be a lot less super wealthy people and a lot of people are well beyond super wealthy and the super wealthy still represent a political threat in the form of wealth doubling as accrued power so its not really desireable.
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Thoguh posted:Being rich is fine. Using that status to make yourself more rich at the expense of people who are not rich is not. it was nice Mariana Horchata posted:i wish...pls buy us new guns for our nation building mr. trump these are good might i suggest this beaut Bubba, do your thing, purge the wrongheaded thinker and thread because there are too much impure thoughts Al! posted:nite crew always gets purged first at least we are true to our posting mandala shitposts are ephemeral because of the inevitable EMP nuke namaste
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Lastgirl posted:Ok so first order of democrats shifting to progressives. Define what the new richy mcrich is, then eat them.
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Edit: eh
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GlyphGryph posted:It's probably possible to be super wealthy without there being poor and disenfranchised anyone, we have a lot of production capacity and we're only gonna have more as time goes by because it's often cheaper to exploit robot machines than poor people and it's okay to exploit robots. But even then there'd have to be a lot less super wealthy people and a lot of people are well beyond super wealthy and the super wealthy still represent a political threat in the form of wealth doubling as accrued power so its not really desireable. someone hasn't been watching Westworld
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Zimbabwe is very entertaining lets do that here.
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Since someone brought it up, here is Ellison's pick on the Florida DNC race; http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nake...deep-organ.html gently caress, back to the Lenin's Tomb Ouija board idea. Actually Lenin was probably a neoliberal.
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Serf posted:once the ultra-wealthy have genetically-engineered children that are faster, stronger and more resilient than us and live in their orbital habitats while the land is swallowed up by acidified ocean water, then the "upper middle class" will finally be on our side lmbo It's not too late to change... cool, I want to be Matt Damon in Elysium too
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Lastgirl posted:might i suggest this beaut now that's a gun you can really use to punch a hole in the superstructure of capitalism
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I for one can't wait for the robot uprising Skynet 2024
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Al! posted:now that's a gun you can really use to punch a hole in the superstructure of capitalism to that cyberpunk orphan its fvckin christmas and its open season on megacorps
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Make Ugly Sweater Leggings Great Again
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i liked your rants lastgirl they made me think and that's not as rare as you might assume!
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Bolton Hairy-Bore posted:i believe coppola's marie antoinette is a masterpiece other than the virgin suicides all her movies are about sad rich white women.
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zegermans posted:gently caress, back to the Lenin's Tomb Ouija board idea. honestly at this point our goal should be to continue to lean on ellison for populist, anti-establishment support and continue asking wtf while still supporting him as DNC chair, cause he's a gently caress of a lot better than our alternatives yet we can still lean on him, and lean on him we should. remember. always lean. it's ultimately a balancing act between realism and idealism, and you have to always be tipping the scales.
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Lastgirl posted:lmbo I was thinking Neuromancer, but this is better.
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Lastgirl posted:to that cyberpunk orphan lets ride
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I'm glad David Brock is keeping himself busy after the election letting us know about Ellison's drivers license status.
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Joementum posted:I'm glad David Brock is keeping himself busy after the election letting us know about Ellison's drivers license status. He should have stayed a frothing-at-the-mouth right winger.
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Serf posted:I was thinking Neuromancer, but this is better. oh i thought you were talking about elysium too lol
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Serf posted:I was thinking Neuromancer, but this is better. time to punch some deck *starts a Twitter argument*
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Alter Ego posted:He should have stayed a frothing-at-the-mouth right winger. He's not????
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Joementum posted:I'm glad David Brock is keeping himself busy after the election letting us know about Ellison's drivers license status.
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wait, was elysium a remake then?
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Joementum posted:I'm glad David Brock is keeping himself busy after the election letting us know about Ellison's drivers license status. lol if people thought they weren't going to try being scumfucks even after loving it up for everybody.
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NumberLast posted:He's not???? OK, let me rephrase: he should have stayed a frothing-at-the-mouth Clinton basher. rudatron posted:wasn't keiths' response was 'i lost it due to multiple schlerosis' or something? and then they're still like 'this guy is so irresponsible! are you SURE you still want them at the head of the dnc!' Actually, it was due to memory lapses brought on by his wife Kim's multiple sclerosis, which makes the line of attack that much more pernicious.
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paranoid randroid posted:time to punch some deck *starts a Twitter argument* tourettes guy was a cyberzombie, that neckbrace was developed deep in the labs of saeder-krupp
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elysium was a documentary from the future
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I don't like the movies that humanize the French monarchy. It wasn't like they loving disappeared never to return laffo
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Lastgirl posted:it was nice Your guitar looks sick
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spoiler alert: matt damon was the first person to achieve clinical immortality, and frankly, he deserves it
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Nonsense posted:I don't like the movies that humanize the French.
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Serf posted:I was thinking Neuromancer, but this is better. ya i mean considering how on the nose it is Abrasive Obelisk posted:Since someone brought it up, here is Ellison's pick on the Florida DNC race; http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nake...deep-organ.html well ya, yer gonna need to win first before you can do anything and that means money. Ellison sold out, its time to go back to the drawing board - this thread leftists, probably lets just keep going back and back to the drawing board before we can even think of doing anything.
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Nonsense posted:I don't like the movies that humanize the French monarchy. There's a joke here but I'm too dumb to think of it
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Serf posted:I for one will not be purging Komrade Keith just yet I agree, I think that starts with purging the party of neoliberals and returning to being focused on labor and the working class/working poor, once the party has the freedom to vilify the rich and run on (actual) economic populism it'll be incredibly easy to rally voters.
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i mean the french are technically human but only technically
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Lastgirl posted:ya i mean considering how on the nose it is Lol I doubt many people actually think that way.
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Ever since Scalia died I've had trouble thinking of who my "if I had one bullet" target would be, and I know it realistically probably shouldn't be David Brock but it's so tempting
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