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BaDandy posted:Also, poo poo like Star Finger, even if it's incredibly silly, makes sense when you think of Stands as spirits and not actual people, like how they had HG and SC shrink for the Lovers fight. Like if Stands can shrink, they can probably do other weird body poo poo too. Does Bite The Dust count?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHTciWJjQI I can't believe who was driving the ambulance that kills Kira...
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Dec 21, 2016 19:23
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The first handful of characters introduced have powers barely more interesting than single words (punch good, fire, sword, a beam or some poo poo? And I'm still not sure what hermit purple does lmfao) and while these got used in interesting ways later on the early parts of part three struggle a little for it. It honestly feels to me like the latter half of part three should be judged entirely differently, the content is so much better and while the squad's stands are still a little whatever the situations they get put in force them to be creative. One of my favorite fights in the part is the first Darby and that's barely a stand battle anyways 
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHTciWJjQI Trying to figure out who that was before the fullbody reveal: A mummy? ...El Santo? Santana? ....Dio with the stone mask? Oh. Alrighty.
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Hermit Purple gives you a plotline for a cool adventure.
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Stephen King's The Stand falls on your head and you die
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Silver Chariot would probably be in my top 10 Stands exactly because of the simplicity of its design, knights and swords are cool. It's one of the most expressive Stands in the series, too, which gives it a lot of personality.
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The only bad thing about Silver Chariot is that his armour off trick is one and done. At the very least, he should have done it again against Star Platinum during Anubis to compete with SP's speed.
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BaDandy posted:Also, poo poo like Star Finger, even if it's incredibly silly, makes sense when you think of Stands as spirits and not actual people, like how they had HG and SC shrink for the Lovers fight. Like if Stands can shrink, they can probably do other weird body poo poo too. Star Finger has only really become strange in hindsight. On it's own it's perfectly fine, especially in conjunction with stands shrinking to fight in a man's brain, stands expanding their lungs to inhale an evil smoke, and so on. There's this sense that a person's stand has potential to do a lot of bizarre things, if it's user is creative enough to think of it and audacious enough to try it. It's only later on, after it's been established that any given Stand will have mostly well defined abilities and limitations, that things like Star Finger become strange.
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horriblePencilist posted:Does Bite The Dust count? ....  I really want to say "maybe".Schwarzwald posted:Star Finger has only really become strange in hindsight. On it's own it's perfectly fine, especially in conjunction with stands shrinking to fight in a man's brain, stands expanding their lungs to inhale an evil smoke, and so on. There's this sense that a person's stand has potential to do a lot of bizarre things, if it's user is creative enough to think of it and audacious enough to try it. Yeah, it really feels like Araki might have been trying to go for one thing with Stands being spirits/weird psychic energy things and then settling for "they have one unique power" to make them more interesting in the middle of writing SDC, and settling into it with DIU. Which, like Bad Seafood said, is cool to watch and look over.
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Seeing the evolution of Stands going from 'weird spirit/psychic energy manifestations' to what they become later is really cool and a fun thing to watch as you read through each part, especially as Araki gets deeper into the series and starts coming up with weirder and more specific powers along the way. "Oh, she can turn into string? That doesn't seem too usef...oh. Oh..."
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It's not even that much of a retcon or anything when you think about it, since when Joseph gave his big explanation of stands he had literally encountered two of them at the time. The man's just that good at bullshitting.
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And really, that evolution has come to a head in parts 7 and 8 where a lot of Stands barely have a "form," so to say. They're just superpowers.
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What happens to a Milagro Man if they eat the rokokoka? They can only 'gain', right?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:What happens to a Milagro Man if they eat the rokokoka? They can only 'gain', right? I thought that was explicitly money
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:What happens to a Milagro Man if they eat the rokokoka? They can only 'gain', right? Their kidneys fall out and turn into their cash equivalent given the current street value.
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no they will not posted:i think the main gang's stands from part 3 are probably the lamest of all the main gang's stands, but they're still pretty cool as is. saying that something is as lame as being really cool at sword fighting or owning a flamethrower is, well, fair enough It's to Part 3's credit that the worst I can accuse it of is having somewhat unimaginative superpowers for most of its protagonists/antagonists to use. It was a very enjoyable watch, overall, and I'm looking forwards to finishing up Part 4 so that I can get to 5/6.
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I have trouble going back and watching part 3 cuz I really like episodic structure, and while the stands are cooler in eqypt for the back half it's also wall to wall two parters. Probably fine on a binge watch but Jojo has a lot of yelling and ther's a lot of scene pans n those eps so they feel more anemic. (Part 3 is still fun and I love part 4 but trying to get the gf started into a 52 ep 'season' so we can get to the fun 39 ep 'season' is a tough sell)
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DamnGlitch posted:I have trouble going back and watching part 3 cuz I really like episodic structure, and while the stands are cooler in eqypt for the back half it's also wall to wall two parters. Probably fine on a binge watch but Jojo has a lot of yelling and ther's a lot of scene pans n those eps so they feel more anemic. It's a lot easier when you realize all of JoJo is good and fun.
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Dec 22, 2016 05:46
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It is but part 3 is particularly shouneny.
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DamnGlitch posted:It is but part 3 is particularly shouneny. I don't think that matters as long as it's good, but maybe it'll help if you think remember it invented or popularized a lot of things you see in shonen these days, so how is it not supposed to feel like classic shonen?
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I don't give a poo poo, but the point here is to someone who does not feel compelled by shounen, the ur-shounen, long rear end part is not particularly appealing.
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DamnGlitch posted:I don't give a poo poo, but the point here is to someone who does not feel compelled by shounen, the ur-shounen, long rear end part is not particularly appealing. Fair enough, but if they don't like shonen at all regardless of quality, I don't know if they'd like any part of JoJo. It's always about hot-blooded heroes having magic battles to protect something/someone. My personal feeling is if someone sees the first episode of Phantom Blood, and nothing about it makes them want to continue, knowing that it only gets better from there, they probably won't like any of JoJo unless they are really picky about some arbitrary things. But if you're confident they'd like Part 4 but not the rest, I guess just show them Part 4 and see where that goes.
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DamnGlitch posted:I have trouble going back and watching part 3 cuz I really like episodic structure, and while the stands are cooler in eqypt for the back half it's also wall to wall two parters. Probably fine on a binge watch but Jojo has a lot of yelling and ther's a lot of scene pans n those eps so they feel more anemic. You can pretty easily just start at part 4 and go back once she gets hooked. It doesn't follow on from the other parts much so the most you'll need to explain is "that's Jotaro, he's the main character of the last story arc" and "Daddy Nijimura got hosed up by DIO, the main villain of the last story arc".
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hoobajoo posted:My personal feeling is if someone sees the first episode of Phantom Blood, and nothing about it makes them want to continue, knowing that it only gets better from there, they probably won't like any of JoJo unless they are really picky about some arbitrary things. But if you're confident they'd like Part 4 but not the rest, I guess just show them Part 4 and see where that goes. I really disagree with you, here. Part 1 is good on the whole, but the first few episodes are a slow burn and not at all representative of the rest of the series.
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Schwarzwald posted:I really disagree with you, here. Part 1 is good on the whole, but the first few episodes are a slow burn and not at all representative of the rest of the series. PB isn't representative of what JoJo is like even by the end of PB, but it has the pulpy melodrama, signature color shifts, emotionally-realized characters, and Dio being Dio everywhere. Those were all things that I saw and made me curious and want to watch more, and even though the rest of the series isn't a Downton Abbey-esque story of a good boy and his lovely adopted brother, a lot of what makes JoJo special is all there in the first episode. I think if someone saw all of those things and none of them spoke to that person or made them want to see more, I don't think I would show them the rest. I guess there are people who might like it but have some absurdly specific and strong dislike that overshadowed it, like if they just hate Victorian England or musclemen character designs to the point where they hate PB but would like other stuff, but aside from those weirdos, I think you only need the first episode of JoJo to know if you want to see more.
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hoobajoo posted:PB isn't representative of what JoJo is like even by the end of PB, but it has the pulpy melodrama, signature color shifts, emotionally-realized characters, and Dio being Dio everywhere. Those were all things that I saw and made me curious and want to watch more, and even though the rest of the series isn't a Downton Abbey-esque story of a good boy and his lovely adopted brother, a lot of what makes JoJo special is all there in the first episode. I think if someone saw all of those things and none of them spoke to that person or made them want to see more, I don't think I would show them the rest. I think that is very much a mistake. Just watching the first two episodes, for example, would give you the impression that the entire series is just a very stylized "Downton Abbey-esque story of a good boy and his lovely adopted brother." It's extremely misrepresentative of not just Jojo as a whole, but even of the latter parts of Part 1. I say this as someone who, after hearing about how cool Jojo was a few years ago, read the first few chapters of Part 1, got absolutely bored with it, and stopped reading. Then when the anime came out, I thought, "I'll give this another try," watched the first two episodes, didn't get too attached (although it was admittedly very stylish) and stopped watching. It was nearly a year later that I chanced into watching the first episode of part 2 that I actually fell in love with the series. I still haven't gone back to watch the rest of part 1. I guess I will eventually, but I'm not in a big hurry.
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Phantom Blood is cool and good, but also really dated and campy. It really gets much better on a rewatch, as with the benefit of hindsight you start noticing how many cool jojoisms there already were there. In many respects, it reminds me of Srar Trek: The Original Series, as perceived by contemporary audience. As much as skipping parts is most naughty, I always tell people that if they really can't get get a feel for Phantom Blood other than yet another dumb anime, they should try skipping to the beginning of Battle Tendency to give it one last shot. If the Straits fight doesn't win them over, nothing will (the dumb grenade trick seems to be the moment at which everyone really gets in for the ride). Of course, it's probably best to introduce jojo with some fun little self-contained episode from later parts. Lichtenstein fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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phantom blood really is just massively different from the rest of the series and i can entirely believe that someone would heavily dislike it but love the rest. the series really doesn't start becoming fully what it is today until part 3, and it even takes a little bit for it to warm up during that. part 2 is at least more diverse than 1, if nothing else.
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Honestly, the first few episodes of PB are my favorite. Just seeing Dio being a douche on a level never seen before and his rivalry with Jonathan in the 1800s was really fun.
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I managed to ace one of my final exam questions by gushing about Jolyne Kujo.
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Kuroyama posted:I managed to ace one of my final exam questions by gushing about Jolyne Kujo. Reminds me of when I answered a question on one of my tests in American Classics by explaining why Fate/Zero was a work of magical realism.
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I wrote an SAT essay about Berserk.
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Does Phantom Blood qualify as Sturm und Drang?
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Funky Valentine posted:I wrote an SAT essay about Berserk. i use anime quotes to describe myself on tinder
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Steel ball run is turning into one of my favorite mangas ever by a mile
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frank.club posted:Steel ball run is turning into one of my favorite mangas ever by a mile Everyone should read JoJo but gently caress man everyone neeeeeds to read Steel Ball Run
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