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Haier posted:I complained before about the weird, seemingly archaic way that Chinese learn and use "ever." Now it has spread to Wechat translation. LOL! The translation is bad. She's basically saying "I once (as in one time) thought about making love to you." Is that how they tend to use the word "ever?" I've noticed a lot of the Koreans here use the word "either" when they mean to say "too." As in "I like that either."
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An over the top pandering to China movie to see if it gets past the censors. Just dripping with sarcasm at every turn. A Chinese actor who looks like Mao whooping rear end at every turn and picking up all the
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Gee, fake poo poo on Alibaba? http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38400222 quote:Alibaba was taken off the list four years ago, but US authorities say the firm's online platform Taobao is used to sell "high levels" of fake goods. The company has rejected the allegations, insisting it polices its market place better than in the past.
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oohhboy posted:Gee, fake poo poo on Alibaba?  I was just talking with my friend today about fake stuff on Taobao and she was completely convinced that the higher-priced e-cigarette liquids she buys are legit, while the cheaper ones are all fakes. I don't even know what a fake e-cig liquid would be, but LOL at the thought, considering that it is literally pennies on the liter to make that stuff at home, and even less to make it for mass production.
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Dec 22, 2016 08:37
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You don't really want counterfeits, you want to develop an eye for third-shift goods.
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Ok, this happened a bit ago and I forgot to write it up, so forgiver me if my detairs are not so clear. Hong Kong and China Futian Checkpoint Border-Crossing Trip Report: To go to Hong Kong from Shenzhen is easy. There are multiple ways you can do it, each costing a different amount of money and time. There's bus, ferry boat, shuttle, taxi, driving, or Metro. One of those popular pedestrian checkpoints is Futian Checkpoint, a foot bridge between SZ and HK that is connected on both sides by bus and train. CHINA SIDE You arrive by Metro train or whatever else to tons and tons of people with tiny wheeled suitcases speed-walking or running in a frantic hither-thither style. It's loud as hell and people are squawking and on edge, spazzing out for no apparent reason, and occasionally shoving for no apparent reason. You realize these are all Mainlanders who have to go to the Chinese immigration line, which has more people in it than the non-Chinese line. The Chinese line will have tons of agents to check passports for the throngs of loud people and their tiny luggage. The non-Mainlander line has huge signs saying FOREIGNERS, and this applies to HK citizens as well as people from the rest of the world. These lines are generally fine, no shoving, no cutting, none of the Mainland ethic when it comes to queuing. Everyone stands quietly on their phones, even the little HK kids who go to school on Shenzhen side waiting to go back home. The agents here may or may not speak any English. There might be 50-100 people waiting at any time, but there will be one or two agents, keeping the lines slowly moving. When you get through, now there's a second mad dash by Mainlanders trying to get a spot in the next line. It's a covered, air-conditioned bridge, but there's the same frantic "OMG OMG OMG" energy going on due the Chinese. Now the Mainland Chinese are in line with the non-Chinese, but the first thing you notice is the sign that say VISITORS. Oh, how polite. I think it would be nice if they could change it to FOREIGNERS like the Chinese, just to see the meltdown reactions, but I guess HK is above such pettiness. These lines move fast enough that there's very little worry about being shoved or pressured by hyper-ventilating Chinese. When you get through, the first thing you notice are all of the signs in English and Chinese that say NO WAITING, with tons of Mainlanders waiting under them, worried if they do something out of a pack or wait just a little further down the way in the actual waiting area they will not survive the day, or they will get lost forever and ever and ever. From here you can get a bus or a train to wherever you want to go. The shoving stops, it's suddenly calm, people are treating each other like people (except mixed with Mainlanders). You go into Hong Kong and fart around, whatever. HONG KONG SIDE: If you're coming back through this checkpoint, now you're going back in the VISITORS line to exit HK, and you're stuck with Mainlanders. People are running, fighting for spots, and while I was there some old guy, one of my favorite features of Mainland China, behind me with the worst breath ever kept breathing it on me. It smelled like fourteen cats had died in his mouth and he gargled the smell with diarrhea. He kept pretending he couldn't figure out where this line was going, despite us being like 10 meters from the agents. He was trying to cut and sneak past me and others under the guise of "Just looking!" When the lines split up, he got his chance and cut in front about six people who said nothing since they didn't want him to lose face. He got through and then stood on the other side looking mighty pleased with heself, but refused to leave because he was waiting for his wife. By the time I got through, he was still standing there, and they were having shouting conversations from both sides. I guess it could have been translated as "I am first, look at meeeeeeeee! I am so great and smart! Haha, suckers!" The HK agent thanked me for coming to Hong Kong (in English), and then a walk back through the frenzied hall over the Shenzhen river and into China side, with tons and tons of idiots with tiny suitcases full of instant noodles and dried fish clogging everything. Back to the mellow FOREIGNERS section. When I arrived, a white guy was asking an agent and a security guard why there were no pens to fill out the immigration card, and how could they expect people to do the card if they also don't at least have one pen for people to use. The security guard pretended to not understand and disappeared. I let him borrow my pen. The guard never came back. This must be a regular feature, because on my last trip through here I also had to let a Chinese-American borrow my pen. I guess pens and toilet paper are BYO around these parts. The agent spoke English and asked me to say my name (I have no idea why) and then looked at me 100 times to compare my passport photo to my face. She looked at my visa and started counting on her fingers. I don't know why. She counted to four, if anyone is curious. Back into China, immediately the volume increased and people are yelling at each other. A fight broke out and a bunch of people stopped to watch. The escalators were a mess of luggage and people screaming on their phones and, when you get down to street-level to take the Metro or walk outside, there are crowds of confused people pushing and shoving, and taxi people trying to get your attention and smoking in your face. Mothers are letting their kids piss on the bushes and there's spit on the ground, inside and outside. You are again a cow in the cattle car that is China, and you sigh loudly and then cough because the second-hand cigarette smoke got into your throat.
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Paladin posted:Now that you're un-probated, could you tell me if Sister Ping's restaurant in Manhattan is worth a visit? I walked by last time I was in Fujianese Chinatown, but figured if I went I should at least bring people. It's okay, definitely not bad. I go there sometimes when I'm in the city with Fujianese friends just because it's so iconic. You head down the stairs and it's a pretty small humble restaurant, it's worth checking out if you like Fujianese food. I'm probably not the best food critic though, I usually just get banmian bianrou when I'm in chinatown, I am a simple man. To be honest I really hate going to Chinatown (and the rest of NYC in general, sorry nyc goons I'm just not a city boy), but it's such a central meeting point for east coast / midwest Fujianese it's kind of unavoidable for me to end up there from time to time.
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nickmeister posted:Is that how they tend to use the word "ever?" I've noticed a lot of the Koreans here use the word "either" when they mean to say "too." As in "I like that either." It's used like it's the opposite of never, as far as I can tell. I never eat tofu. I ever eat tofu. I have no idea why this is being taught but it's a super common error. A lot of times it makes the sentences really confusing, this example's simple.
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Dec 22, 2016 09:26
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What kind of hoops does a mainlander have to jump through when going to Taiwan? I hope they make it clear at every step that they come to another country.
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Haier post more please. For Christmas I like being at home. My wife does not, she likes to travel. Last year, since we stayed in Hong Kong, I said it was fine if we traveled this year, because otherwise would be unfair. She suggested an idea for a Vietnam cruise for about 5 days with her parents, who would fly down. I guess this is okay because Vietnam is a country that is relatively easy for her parents, who are Chinese citizens, to get visas for. Anyway, last week she said that she hadn't actually booked the Vietnam Cruise, which I wasn't exactly looking forward to anyway because I have 2 small kids and why on Earth would I want to be stuck on the ship with them , so it looks like we'll be staying here. She had talked about visiting some Resort Hotel in Shenzhen for a few days with her parents, who are down with us anyway now, and some other relatives who live over the Border. This morning, she says that the Shenzhen hotel booking is not actually for Christmas vacation, it is for Chinese New Year! Either that or some other place that is easy to get to within China. Now I do not like to be in China at the best of times, certainly not during the winter when pollution is going crazy, and certainly not during Chinese New Year when people are throwing firecrackers at each other in the street. I still remember when I went to visit Yangshuo a few years ago, and children were throwing firecrackers at some dog that was tied up and trying to blow pieces of its fur off. Two years ago we went to some Resort in Hainan that was supposedly going to be really awesome, and it was your usual China spectacle of people arguing about everything, staring at me, giving dirty looks at my wife for marrying a white Foreigner, and staring covetously at our mixed blood children. So tomorrow morning I get to go to China Travel Services, which used to be the only way that you could get a visa application form to enter China, and may still be. In the past I have gone to the China travel service branch in Mong Kok and found the staff to be generally unhelpful and rude , so maybe they have changed in the few years since I was last there.
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Getting a visa from MK CTS is pretty easy, just fill in a form, the receptionist gave me an address of a random place in China since I didn't know where I would be staying, then told me to go to one of the photocopy shops downstairs that issues photo for China VISA applications for $20. Oh and pay an outrageous $3k+ application fee
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Imperialist Dog posted:giving dirty looks at my wife for marrying a white Foreigner, and staring covetously at our mixed blood children. This always confuses me on one hand your wife is a traitor on the other hand they love the fruit of her treachery?
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Dicky mouse posted:This always confuses me on one hand your wife is a traitor on the other hand they love the fruit of her treachery? china is doublethink in country form
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So a while back I joined a Hong Kong history group. It was just your usual Facebook page, and then they organized a trip to the Commonwealth War Cemetery in eastern Hong Kong Island in August. There used to be a holiday in August called Liberation day when the British sailed back and took Hong Kong back from the Japanese, but of course after the Handover it was cancelled. Younger Hongkongers are using these events to promote a more Hong Kong centric cultural viewpoint. So fast forward to about 2 or 3 months ago, and the group had announced an event for this December. Earlier this year in England, to mark the Centenary of the Battle of the Somme, a bunch of guys dressed in period uniforms and stood around at train stations as a kind of silent ghosts of the past thing. The idea to do it here would be to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Hong Kong. Once again, after the Handover, the event where official British units, Canadians, and local Hong Kong Chinese as well as Indian Army units fought together has been rather ignored by the government, to say the least. So a bunch of us spent way too much money on period uniforms, equipped ourselves with information cards (we didn't bring along fake rifles or even entrenching tool handles because we were afraid of the police accusing us of being an armed group) and "stood on guard" so to speak in Kowloon by the Clock Tower, which still has visible damage from Japanese bullets if you look closely. We did the same thing last week at the Star Ferry pier in Central, and there is something I noticed about the people who came up to us. For local Hong Kongers, they didn't really know what we were doing as local history is not really taught in schools here. However, once they understood what we were trying to commemorate, they were very enthusiastic about it and many of them shared stories they had heard from their grandparents about the Battle itself or life under Japanese Occupation, and they were quite happy that we were trying to keep the memory going. A lot of the white foreign tourists already knew about the Battle, especially the Australians and Canadians who were walking by. And then of course there were the Chinese. The Chinese were not shy at all about coming up to take pictures with us, and that's really all they were interested in. When we tried to pass our information cards to them or talk about what we were doing, they would just say 不要 (bu yao, no want) and then walk away. Even when I tried explaining in Mandarin that we were a war memorial group and could you please not give a huge grin and a sexy or cutesy pose (a common reaction from many of the younger women when taking a photo op with the white guy in the Hong Kong volunteer uniform), the usual reaction was "你的普通话说得很好! " (wow your Mandarin is so good!) after which they would continue with their photo and walk off. Oh and they would cut in front of the Filipinas who had politely asked if they could take a picture with us instead of just barging up. After that we received new instructions from our leaders to not bother engaging with the Chinese tourists, as out of the hundreds who wanted to take pictures with us there were maybe three who were actually interested in our message.
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Dicky mouse posted:This always confuses me on one hand your wife is a traitor on the other hand they love the fruit of her treachery? On the one hand they hate foreigners, on the other hand they hate themselves and wish they were more like white people (whatever it is they imagine that is like). Imperialist Dog posted:Haier post more please. For the longest time I assumed the Chinese simply put up with the crazy crowds on New Year's, etc., because it was the only time everyone can get time off. But lately I've been getting the impression that they actually LIKE being in big annoying crowds. Is that the case do you think?
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Lady Galaga posted:Getting a visa from MK CTS is pretty easy, just fill in a form, the receptionist gave me an address of a random place in China since I didn't know where I would be staying, then told me to go to one of the photocopy shops downstairs that issues photo for China VISA applications for $20. Oh and pay an outrageous $3k+ application fee Holy poo poo was it super rush or something? Why such a hefty fee?
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nickmeister posted:For the longest time I assumed the Chinese simply put up with the crazy crowds on New Year's, etc., because it was the only time everyone can get time off. But lately I've been getting the impression that they actually LIKE being in big annoying crowds. Is that the case do you think? My wife has repeatedly told me how much she hates Chinese New Year, the giant family gatherings, the prying into personal life, and the non stop eating. So I don't think she does, at least. For this Resort Hotel place that we are supposedly going to, I'm guessing that it will either be mostly empty because most people are at home with their families, giving us some relative peace and quiet, or it will be packed to the gills.
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Imperialist Dog posted:So a while back I joined a Hong Kong history group. It was just your usual Facebook page, and then they organized a trip to the Commonwealth War Cemetery in eastern Hong Kong Island in August. There used to be a holiday in August called Liberation day when the British sailed back and took Hong Kong back from the Japanese, but of course after the Handover it was cancelled. Younger Hongkongers are using these events to promote a more Hong Kong centric cultural viewpoint. So fast forward to about 2 or 3 months ago, and the group had announced an event for this December. Earlier this year in England, to mark the Centenary of the Battle of the Somme, a bunch of guys dressed in period uniforms and stood around at train stations as a kind of silent ghosts of the past thing. The idea to do it here would be to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Hong Kong. Once again, after the Handover, the event where official British units, Canadians, and local Hong Kong Chinese as well as Indian Army units fought together has been rather ignored by the government, to say the least. This is super interesting, can you tell us more? What other activities does your group do? Have you been hassled by authorities at all?
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Awesome.
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The Guardian posted:"The Chinese government is a despicable, parasitic, brutal, brass-knuckled, crass, callous, amoral, ruthless and totally totalitarian imperialist power that reigns over the world’s leading cancer factory, its most prolific propaganda mill and the biggest police state and prison on the face of the earth." Seems like Trump picked a realist for the job.
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Dec 22, 2016 11:35
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lol authorities harassing a bunch of nerds
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Pirate Radar posted:This is super interesting, can you tell us more? What other activities does your group do? Have you been hassled by authorities at all? I want pictures
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Check Hong Kong free press
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Book looks like bullshit just from the title alone. Factories are coming back to the US in the form of fully automated factories. All the jobs that China "stole" are vanishing altogether. Edit: I googled "why does asia have a large population" and a surprising number of answers on Quora were very defensive and devoid of any answers. "Well, why does the rest of the world have such a LOW population, huh?" or "Well, birth rates are low, so that will change in a while."
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ladron posted:I want pictures http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/lifestyle/20161217/bkn-20161217111132656-1217_00982_001.html
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big time bisexual posted:http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/lifestyle/20161217/bkn-20161217111132656-1217_00982_001.html thanks!
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Here's the SCMP article, complete with video of me saying "um" a lot. http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/2055214/history-buffs-re-enact-battle-hong-kong-streets-remind-city-home-grown SCMP posted:Also overlooked, Kwong says, are the more than 1,000 Hong Kong Chinese servicemen who served as regular British troops, hundreds of whom survived to rejoin British forces in China and fight against the Japanese in the decisive Burma Campaign. “Many of these men returned to Hong Kong and continued to serve in the British military or other government services,” Kwong says. “The diversity of Hong Kong’s defenders tells a lot about the cosmopolitan nature of the city, and the significant part played by South Asian communities is a useful counter to the rhetoric about ‘fake refugees’.” Here are two Chinese articles with more video (in Cantonese) but if you're good at reading Chinese subtitles you can figure out most of it. http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/lifestyle/20161216/bkn-20161216111156118-1216_00982_001.html http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/lifestyl...1590cf7ad2334ad     The most hassle we got was some other event organiser by the clock tower who was annoyed that we were drawing away some of his crowd, and some very confused front-line cops who wondered what the heck we were doing.
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Patrick with the stash owns. The difference in every statistics between each side was crazy. It was insane they lasted 18 days knowing they were going to lose with no escape or reinforcements, supplies or any ability to reply to artillery or air strikes.
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Dec 22, 2016 12:31
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Hong Kong Island was reasonably well-defended, with many artillery emplacements that were able to reply to Japanese guns. I should be on a Hong Kong television program sometime in the next week when we went up to the ruins of one of these batteries to film a reenactment scene. But as usual it was the lack of any air power whatsoever that really sealed it. One very interesting reason as to why there was such limited air power in Hong Kong was that the terms of the Washington Naval treaty forbade the development of more defenses in the Far East for Britain, and those effects were still being felt by the time Japan attacked. Either Governor Young or Commander Maltby repeatedly telegraphed London asking for permission to surrender because he knew everyone was just going to get killed otherwise. Churchill kept on sending the reply of "No Surrender, not ever". This might actually be one reason as to why the Japanese acted so cruelly, such as by executing captured soldiers, as they were under pressure from Tokyo to secure the colony within 10 days so they could move on to the Philippines. I mean more cruel than World War II Japanese would have been anyway. Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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this thread is now about Imperialist Dog's glorious moustache 
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Jeoh posted:this thread is now about Imperialist Dog's glorious moustache and robin williams level arm hair
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Kind of like those Chinese chemists that claimed they sell foof. I couldnt tell if you meant this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6MfZbCvPCw or the first urban dictionary comment that came up, which is vagina
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Drunk & Ugly posted:I couldnt tell if you meant this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6MfZbCvPCw The former, you can buy vagina anywhere.
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Dicky mouse posted:This always confuses me on one hand your wife is a traitor on the other hand they love the fruit of her treachery? They want white skin with Chinese Characteristics.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The former, you can buy vagina anywhere. but can chemists make me a vagina this would solve most of my problems
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Xerxes17 posted:They want white skin with Chinese Characteristics. What?
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Drunk & Ugly posted:but can chemists make me a vagina you want a surgeon for that
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Automatic Slim posted:What? They desire our natural pinkish hue!
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Ceciltron posted:They desire our natural pinkish hue! If it means not having to wear warm coats in 80°F weather then I could see the draw.
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Pirate Radar posted:This is super interesting, can you tell us more? What other activities does your group do? Have you been hassled by authorities at all? "I am the ghost of Pvt. Seymour Williams returning on the anniversary of my death on this spot. Oooooooooohhh..." Then hop once at him while not breaking eye contact.
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