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HGH
Dec 20, 2011

PaybackJack posted:

Wow, I was so happy coming in here to post that I finally pulled a Mercedes and here is Fenrir with his 4th rainbow and 3rd base 5* character.

Now I'm salty, so very salty.
At the very least, Mercedes with full ATK pots basically hits as hard as a 5* base even without TMRs. Axe Mastery and all those other % boosts do a good job getting her to around 540ATK. With some right TMs I can see her approaching 700.

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KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

HGH posted:

At the very least, Mercedes with full ATK pots basically hits as hard as a 5* base even without TMRs. Axe Mastery and all those other % boosts do a good job getting her to around 540ATK. With some right TMs I can see her approaching 700.

Plus, her nuke feeds itself the same way Holy Explosion does, if you have her axe. It just doesn't chain quite as well.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
I've pulled like three Kefkas in the last few days, two of them being 4*s.

Oh well, more Ribbons.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Bonus Christmas tickets this morning got me a gaff and the return of 4 star Bedile. I've missed you old friend!

Cartoon Man fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Dec 22, 2016

Tall Tale Teller
May 20, 2003
Grave? Shovel! Let's go.

I got my first rakshasha.

Bedile? More like shedile, amirite?

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Tall Tale Teller posted:

I got my first rakshasha.

Bedile? More like shedile, amirite?

Let's have my Bedile and your Rakshasha meet in the arena and we can see if love can bloom on the battlefield.

VegasGoat
Nov 9, 2011

Got a 3rd zidane from the daily pull today, my second was from a ticket yesterday. This game really wants me to TM farm but I'm only level 34 F2P and haven't even done the whole story yet.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Pokemaster #421 posted:

God this is driving me nuts I'm 4 lousy calamity gems away from a 6 star noctis and all I seem to get out of the maze are calamity writs or prismatic horns. I've got like 30 of each now and throughout the billions of runs I've made I caught 2 gems so far. It's like this drat game knows exactly what I'm going for and gives me everything but just to torture me into doing a bunch of refills to grind like a lunatic. Just give me my gems drat you!

I have the opposite problem. I need 4 more Prismatic Horns to get Bartz to 6* and the maze just keeps dropping Rainbow Blooms and Calamity Gems. It doesn't help that I have failed to get to the last part of the maze for the last 15 runs or so. I mean I need Gigantuars to feed Bartz and Ramza so I'm not stopping maze running but it is getting slightly irritating.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Do we know if the xmas event will drop 6 star mats in some form?

Shingouryu
Feb 15, 2012
If you click on the new snarling snowman icon it'll take you to the event area where you can see a list of rewards. 20 of each mat for milestones in individual.

Ratmtattat
Mar 10, 2004
the hairdryer

Daily pull today was Zidane #4 which is pretty cool

Two tickets because I really really want a Cheez

4* Edge
3* Mustard

At least it's not more Charlottes.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Got Gaffy on my daily pull, so now I have all the special knights from FFT. Hey, maybe that means Orlandu is coming!

(it isn't)

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?
So two team setup questions, first my Magic team is currently two level maxed Arc's, a 6 star Exdeath, Refia and Vaan Breaking. I have two more exdeaths sitting in backup should I bring those Exdeaths up or keep at least one Arc around?

Now for a physical team, I pulled a second Cheez so I was thinking Noct, Two Cheez, Vaan and Refia, but I've learned that apparently Noct can take of the breaking so maybe someone else instead of Vaan? Other options for this team are Cecil, Mercedes, Firion, Duane, Hayate but those don't seem like the best options out of what I have.

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


Hey Fingercuffs posted:

So two team setup questions, first my Magic team is currently two level maxed Arc's, a 6 star Exdeath, Refia and Vaan Breaking. I have two more exdeaths sitting in backup should I bring those Exdeaths up or keep at least one Arc around?

Now for a physical team, I pulled a second Cheez so I was thinking Noct, Two Cheez, Vaan and Refia, but I've learned that apparently Noct can take of the breaking so maybe someone else instead of Vaan? Other options for this team are Cecil, Mercedes, Firion, Duane, Hayate but those don't seem like the best options out of what I have.

Noct and 2 Chizuru are all you need for striking, run the Cecil. Give the Chizuru both offhand Kazekiri if you can, have them elemental chain Phantom Shadow for absurd amounts of damage, even in arena.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

Hey Fingercuffs posted:

So two team setup questions, first my Magic team is currently two level maxed Arc's, a 6 star Exdeath, Refia and Vaan Breaking. I have two more exdeaths sitting in backup should I bring those Exdeaths up or keep at least one Arc around?

Bring up all your Exdeaths. I run 4x and it's great.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Vax posted:

I do not believe anything you say boy. You must be several hundred if not thousand dollars in with all the 5* bases you pull regularly. This can happen once or twice maybe but not on this regular basis. I just hope for you that you wont regret spending this much on a game later on. Happy for you anyway.

About $275, give or take, if you count the two gift cards I was given for christmas (one of which came a month early, hence my black friday whaling). I'd add 47.99 to that picking up this xmas banner if I could afford it, but sadly I can't.

Pokemaster #421
Jul 14, 2005

For a swift one at the wrist, down on the old main drag.
Yeah two chiz and a nocti can bring the pain pretty drat good, and Cecil is a great cover for chiz to round out her protection. Noctis limit break boosts Atk as well, which helps mitigate not having Refias embolden around to boost.

I'm planning on running a very similar team with noctis chiz Refia exdeath and either cod or another chiz. Refia might not be the most optimal choice but I really like having Curaja full raise and embolden all in one package. And if I ever manage to get this tm macro working and get my 3 dual wields I'm going to watch noctis and 2 chiz eat everything that comes their way.

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?

PaybackJack posted:

Bring up all your Exdeaths. I run 4x and it's great.

I knew you were gonna say that, we need another 6* farming event again because I'll need mats for 2 Cheez, Noct, Cecil and now 2 Exdeath.

Edit: By farming event I meant along the lines of Karma and Gears to turn into 6* mats.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

Yea I'm in serious need of awakening mats too. I currently have exdeath and cecil but need Bartz, Cheez, Mercedes, and 3 more exdeaths. Also firion, WoL, and Garland in the not-too-distant future.

jaclynhyde
May 28, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
Is Cheezo currently better than CoD for damage with no TMs? I like having CoD around for Omni-Veil and Thundaga, but I have a max Chizuru hanging around doing nothing. (Main party is Agrias/Cecil/Refia/ExDeath/CoD, mage/arena is Arc/Cecil/Tellah/ExDeath/CoD).

Also, what characters should I work on leveling for situational reasons? I'm working on Bartz and Rydia (for summoning objectives) and I have Kain, four more ExDeaths, Black Cat Lid, two more CoDs, one more Cheeto, three Kriles, Hope, Firion...I may never have drawn a base five, but at least I'm solid for everything else? :v:

dangerous.hotdog
Feb 29, 2008
You should ideally use both. CoD is a specialist vs. human enemies and also brings a ton of utility for fights where you need an AoE Esuna, elemental resists, etc. In cases outside of that, Chiz brings more damage to non-humans.

Depending on how much you care about arena, a 4x Exdeath team is really nice. Very fast matches since they all end in round 1. Otherwise having a dupe Chiz to chain Phantom Blades is a nice damage boost.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



jaclynhyde posted:

Is Cheezo currently better than CoD for damage with no TMs? I like having CoD around for Omni-Veil and Thundaga, but I have a max Chizuru hanging around doing nothing. (Main party is Agrias/Cecil/Refia/ExDeath/CoD, mage/arena is Arc/Cecil/Tellah/ExDeath/CoD).

Also, what characters should I work on leveling for situational reasons? I'm working on Bartz and Rydia (for summoning objectives) and I have Kain, four more ExDeaths, Black Cat Lid, two more CoDs, one more Cheeto, three Kriles, Hope, Firion...I may never have drawn a base five, but at least I'm solid for everything else? :v:


Im guessing cheez is better if all you are looking at is damage. CoD gets an improved human killer that could end up doing a whole lot more damage against other humans though. But Cheez can penetrate armor with her attacks which is pretty important. CoD has a poo poo ton of utility though, if you are missing a Tilith or something like her.

Unrelated question. How does firions weapon wield abilities work? Do I need to mix weapon types to get bonuses? Like say if I give him two axes does he get 60% damage or must it me an axe and a spear/knuckle? Im thinking of turning my mercedes into my monster dps unit and was going to grind two of her axes out but looking ahead an axe and a save the queen might be better if I decide to switch over her stuff to firion once he gets 6*

JohnnyTreachery
Dec 7, 2000
living the f2p dream :toot:

dangerous.hotdog
Feb 29, 2008
Jesus. If only you could sell accounts. I bet you could fetch like $10,000+ for that.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
The Carbuncle is strangely making me more depressed than the units above it.

McSpankWich
Aug 31, 2005

Plum Island Animal Disease Research Center. Sounds charming.
Seriously, I mean Shiva is #3 overall for atk and isn't even represented. Ramuh is last place, and Diablos is 2nd to last unless you're fighting humans.

Hopefully we're just seeing you being set up for a mage team in another slot...

Fake edit: Shiva is also #2 for Mag though, so I dunno wtf is going on.

Vax
Dec 29, 2011

delicious!

dangerous.hotdog posted:

Jesus. If only you could sell accounts. I bet you could fetch like $10,000+ for that.

If you never link your account you can. Actually could probably make a business out of rerolling and selling the good ones.

dangerous.hotdog
Feb 29, 2008

Vax posted:

If you never link your account you can. Actually could probably make a business out of rerolling and selling the good ones.

I'm down if you are.

MohShuvuu
Aug 26, 2010

I eat ass.
you could always just make dummy FB accounts and link those to good rerolls

McSpankWich
Aug 31, 2005

Plum Island Animal Disease Research Center. Sounds charming.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Unrelated question. How does firions weapon wield abilities work? Do I need to mix weapon types to get bonuses? Like say if I give him two axes does he get 60% damage or must it me an axe and a spear/knuckle? Im thinking of turning my mercedes into my monster dps unit and was going to grind two of her axes out but looking ahead an axe and a save the queen might be better if I decide to switch over her stuff to firion once he gets 6*

Could someone please answer this, there is a lot of misinformation about Firion and Kaiser Knuckles floating around out there, I think we're all confused.

Cat Pilot
Jan 29, 2003

McSpankWich posted:

Could someone please answer this, there is a lot of misinformation about Firion and Kaiser Knuckles floating around out there, I think we're all confused.

Oh man, I hope the Kaiser Knuckles I'm TMing is good :ohdear:

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
At 6* level 52, Firion gets Heavy Breaker:
+30% ATK when equipped with Axe & +30% ATK when equipped with Hammer & +30% ATK when equipped with Lance & +30% ATK when equipped with Knuckle

I don't particularly see what the point of the Knuckles is but I'm guessing the options for good hammers and Lances aren't plentiful.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


HGH posted:

At 6* level 52, Firion gets Heavy Breaker:
+30% ATK when equipped with Axe & +30% ATK when equipped with Hammer & +30% ATK when equipped with Lance & +30% ATK when equipped with Knuckle

I don't particularly see what the point of the Knuckles is but I'm guessing the options for good hammers and Lances aren't plentiful.
Snow's trust mastery, the champions belt gives +30 atk and an additional +20% if the weilder is using a fist weapon and it stacks with itself. So if you have two belts on firion and a kaiser fist, he's getting a +40% atk in additon to the +60 the belts give, and an extra 30% from his weapon mastery skill so +70% total. And hes still got another weapon to get mastery bonuses with if you dual weild

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

Two knuckles doesn't give the knuckle bonus twice though. That's why Firion needs dual wield cause you're losing out on that second atk bonus.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Firion, TM lorde

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008

McSpankWich posted:

Seriously, I mean Shiva is #3 overall for atk and isn't even represented. Ramuh is last place, and Diablos is 2nd to last unless you're fighting humans.

Hopefully we're just seeing you being set up for a mage team in another slot...

Fake edit: Shiva is also #2 for Mag though, so I dunno wtf is going on.

I was going more with the fact that it's level 38.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Tagichatn posted:

Two knuckles doesn't give the knuckle bonus twice though. That's why Firion needs dual wield cause you're losing out on that second atk bonus.

The idea is Blade Master, Sakurafubuki, Kaiser Knuckles and two Champion Belts.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
Is that the closest you can get to the 300% cap on stat bonuses?

deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008

I have 0 Snows so I don't care at all about knuckles! My Firion will have to live with a Gungir and a Viking Axe.

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McSpankWich
Aug 31, 2005

Plum Island Animal Disease Research Center. Sounds charming.
My Firion doesn't exist!

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