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the only Jedi we saw in the originals were the best of the best (whether naturally or through experience) and the average one, while good in a fight and all, isn't anywhere near that level. Look at how Palpatine clowns on the Jedi masters in Episode 3, I'm guessing one of them could have done the same thing to a few average Jedi
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Thin Privilege posted:Dishonored 2 again Yeah it's kind of clunky, but what little emotional arc the game had was Emily learning her inherited empire is a mess that she preferred to goof off/complain about paperwork rather than fix.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:27
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Strategic Tea posted:Yeah it's kind of clunky, but what little emotional arc the game had was Emily learning her inherited empire is a mess that she preferred to goof off/complain about paperwork rather than fix. My arc was Emily day-dreaming about putting Delilah's head in a vice, and having extra arms to strangle people with.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:28
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Glukeose posted:Episode 3, while not being good, had a whole montage of Jedi being killed by regular rear end troopers. Some of them even died from really silly bullshit, like the one who got shot on a speeder. Wasn't a key theme of KotOR 2 that a Jedi is just as frail and mortal as any other rear end in a top hat, especially if they can't hide behind a saber? KOTOR 2 had 2 NPCs that told you how to easily kill Jedi. Shooting at them en masse, sniper rifles at a distance, mines, grenades with magnetic targeting locks so the jedi couldn't push them back at you, shoot at innocents, wound their padawan, also being spontaneous as its harder for the Jedi to predict.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:30
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Leal posted:KOTOR 2 had 2 NPCs that told you how to easily kill Jedi. Shooting at them en masse, sniper rifles at a distance, mines, grenades with magnetic targeting locks so the jedi couldn't push them back at you, shoot at innocents, wound their padawan, also being spontaneous as its harder for the Jedi to predict. My lvl 29 Sith Lord could kill an army with a Force Lighting so beat that!
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Dec 22, 2016 18:36
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im pooping! posted:I played SWG for a long time and the first of the Jedi were unlocked in a specific way. Each character had a seed for 5 or 6 classes(out of like 28) they needed to master in order to unlock a new character slot for a force sensitive character. There was a very rare item drop called a Holocron, which when read revealed one of the classes needed to unlock the FS slot. It would not reveal the last one, which left people to A)hunt holocrons which became massively inflated in value and B) just grind everything once your last Holocron was cloudy. It was a loving nightmare and likewise Jedi/Sith in Star Wars Galaxies were incredibly powerful and rare. They even had permadeath(yes, in an MMORPG) and would turn into a blue glowy. Rifleman sniper 4 lyfe Nothing beat going prone and mind shotting some dude to death and he can't even see me They really poo poo up the game when they went to 8 classes. It was fun mixing and matching different classes, especially if you were a dancer who also decided to use heavy weapons
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Dec 22, 2016 19:14
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Kontradaz posted:That was the theme brought about by the game being limited to D&D Rules, not really canon. Oh, drat. Would hate to accidentally violate canon by making a fun Star Wars game.
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Dec 22, 2016 19:33
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Glukeose posted:Then if we're specifically working within canon, the Jedi get clowned by robots who are often too incompetent to shoot straight. They also get killed by a bounty hunter whose son would die later by falling into a giant mouth in a desert. They're really not infallible or overpowered. Excuse me but Boba Fett did not die in the Sarlacc. He escaped, was captured by Jawas (lol), then their sandcrawler crashed into the Sarlacc pit and he fell in again (double lol), and he escaped yet again. He hasn't yet died, the Expanded Universe has some really good content.
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gohuskies posted:Excuse me but Boba Fett did not die in the Sarlacc. He escaped, was captured by Jawas (lol), then their sandcrawler crashed into the Sarlacc pit and he fell in again (double lol), and he escaped yet again. He hasn't yet died, the Expanded Universe has some really good content. Yeah it sure sounds like it 
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RyokoTK posted:Yeah it sure sounds like it somebody on a computer post the sith lord with like nine different lightsabers protruding from his body
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Dec 22, 2016 20:08
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The EU is/was great exactly because it's stupid and  , it gives the world some character outside of serious space bushido laserswordmans and desert cantinas.
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There's plenty of Star Wars games and stories that don't feature Jedi much/at all and are still good is basically the point, it's just MisterBibs being completely dumb and wrong as usual.
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gohuskies posted:Excuse me but Boba Fett did not die in the Sarlacc. He escaped, was captured by Jawas (lol), then their sandcrawler crashed into the Sarlacc pit and he fell in again (double lol), and he escaped yet again. He hasn't yet died, the Expanded Universe has some really good content. Didn't all that get deleted when Disney took over making nerds furious?
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Yeah I thought the entire canon now consisted of Episodes IV - VII and Rogue One (I honestly believe they will not make explicit references to the prequels but by the broadest of strokes) the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons, the relatively recent marvel comic books and book tie ins released after Episode VII.
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Dec 22, 2016 20:56
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Calaveron posted:Yeah I thought the entire canon now consisted of Episodes IV - VII and Rogue One (I honestly believe they will not make explicit references to the prequels but by the broadest of strokes) the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons, the relatively recent marvel comic books and book tie ins released after Episode VII. That's the pleb canon. The EU canon lives on- the yuzhon vong will never die!
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Calaveron posted:Yeah I thought the entire canon now consisted of Episodes IV - VII and Rogue One (I honestly believe they will not make explicit references to the prequels but by the broadest of strokes) the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons, the relatively recent marvel comic books and book tie ins released after Episode VII. organa was in rogue one. they can ignore the prequels, but they're still canon. also the scene at the end is pretty much a callback to III.
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The most likely thing is probably that nothing from the EU is canon until Disney puts it in a movie or re-releases it.
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alright let's smother this derail. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. gently caress X-18 and the floating barrels. they're not scary, they're just super annoying when you're trying to punch in the code for the doors.
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Yardbomb posted:The EU is/was great exactly because it's stupid and Forgot what thread I was in and thought suddenly we were talking about Brexit. I love DOOM, but jesus the updates are insanely large. I want to play arcade mode but I don't want to download 25 gb of crap to do it.
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Calaveron posted:Yeah I thought the entire canon now consisted of Episodes IV - VII and Rogue One (I honestly believe they will not make explicit references to the prequels but by the broadest of strokes) the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons, the relatively recent marvel comic books and book tie ins released after Episode VII. One of the villians in the force awakens talks about going back to clones for stormtroopers. I think the whole clone thing was prequel only.
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2house2fly posted:The most likely thing is probably that nothing from the EU is canon until Disney puts it in a movie or re-releases it. Pretty much this. It can be considered canon if the movies confirm it is. Until the movies contradict it, it exists as much as you want it to. Like obviously everything in the original EU involving the Solo kids is now thrown out as well as Luke's wife and kids. But like a lot of the EU that happened DURING the original trilogy might still exist. I mean we had Thrawn show up in the Rebels cartoon.
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Action Tortoise posted:organa was in rogue one. they can ignore the prequels, but they're still canon. No yeah I get it Bail Organa and Qui Gon Jinn are totally characters that existed and I'm sure Vader still got messed up fighting Obi-Wan in a lava planet But I don't think Dexter Jettster exists anymore I don't think anything that happened in level 6: Planet Geonosis or anything similar will ever be referenced or taken into account going forward because it is all super stupid
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Dec 22, 2016 21:48
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For all the open world sandbox games we've gotten as of late nobody's set one in a hyper advanced future city. SR4 has aliens and superpowers but that's about it. I want Grand Theft Jetcar.
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ilmucche posted:Forgot what thread I was in and thought suddenly we were talking about Brexit. Complaining about large downloads in TYOOL 2016/7
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Kontradaz posted:Complaining about large downloads in TYOOL 2016/7 Unfortunately in TYOOL 2016/17, ISPs still put caps and limit downloading speed. Also it'd be nice if a game wasn't taking up 20% of my SSD by itself.
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Dec 22, 2016 21:58
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Action Tortoise posted:alright let's smother this derail. You can stop the floating barrels by killing whatever's responsible for them. The barrels are being controlled by a poltergeist, the poltergeists are only partially visible though. Poltergeists are those crackling clouds of electricity flying around, shoot them and they die and become fully visible.
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gohuskies posted:You can stop the floating barrels by killing whatever's responsible for them. jesus, i needed you three days ago. thanks. Kontradaz posted:Complaining about large downloads in TYOOL 2016/7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYGWF6qrts
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Leal posted:Unfortunately in TYOOL 2016/17, ISPs still put caps and limit downloading speed. Also it'd be nice if a game wasn't taking up 20% of my SSD by itself. Where do you live, Kansas? Doesn't like every metro center now have the choice of ISP with unlimited data at fast speeds?
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Kontradaz posted:Complaining about large downloads in TYOOL 2016/7 Large downloads are bullshit even in Current Year.
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Kontradaz posted:Where do you live, Kansas? Doesn't like every metro center now have the choice of ISP with unlimited data at fast speeds? gently caress no. Even Cox in phoenix has a soft 250GB cap. Don't be an intentional ignorant douchebag.
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Kontradaz posted:Where do you live, Kansas? Doesn't like every metro center now have the choice of ISP with unlimited data at fast speeds? Countries that aren't America also exist, sir. And some of those countries have poo poo internet.
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2house2fly posted:Large downloads are bullshit even in Current Year. I have not once this year been annoyed by large downloads, but then again I don't have 10mbps internet
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Cleretic posted:Countries that aren't America also exist, sir. And some of those countries have poo poo internet. America has poo poo internet compared to a bunch of the world! Go to Eastern Europe and see the blazing fast speeds.
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Time to warm up that ignore button again. Troll harder.
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thebardyspoon posted:Do they ever specifically mention that it's a guy? Lots of people in the Dishonored 2 thread were saying it's left ambiguous. In any case it didn't bother me really, it's in a letter that nobody is supposed to be reading and if you read old correspondence like that there's always dumb poo poo in there, people being people.  I'm too lazy to try and track down if that's a real tweet or not though.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Time to warm up that ignore button again. Troll harder. Average goon poster isn't from a place where internet is atrocious, so don't blame me for being inquisitive.
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Oh hey stalker soc is on sale today, 60% off. I get 12 cents for every 20 purchases redirected from this thread.
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Kontradaz posted:Average goon poster isn't from a place where internet is atrocious, so don't blame me for being inquisitive. Hi. Australia, where rotting copper lines are still the standard, usage caps are still ubiquitous (and hit against hard now that Netflix exists) and since the policy to fix that got torpedoed will not improve. It's not fun! EDIT: because this argument isn't fun for most people, I'm going to risk bringing back the last one and say that Star Wars is dragging down all Star Wars games. It's a shame it's the only one of the big sci-fi genres that gets good games with any degree of frequency, because it's not a very good setting unless you want to play a Jedi dvery time. I want to play a Jedi none of the time, personally. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 22:28 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Cleretic posted:Hi. Australia, where rotting copper lines are still the standard, usage caps are still ubiquitous (and hit against hard now that Netflix exists) and since the policy to fix that got torpedoed will not improve. It's not fun! You guys gave us "down under", you deserve better - I'm sorry
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Cleretic posted:Hi. Australia, where rotting copper lines are still the standard, usage caps are still ubiquitous (and hit against hard now that Netflix exists) and since the policy to fix that got torpedoed will not improve. It's not fun! unironically I want a pazaak standalone game for my phone. and I want a Russian guy to accuse me of cheating for cleaning him out right before his planet explodes.
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