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mastershakeman posted:i'll shoot every single person in chicago if the bears draft fournette Can I interest you in a slightly used Melvin Gordon
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I know this is a down year for LTs but is there anyone worth taking in the mid-to-late 20s? Asking for a friend.
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Fox got Stewart drafted with deangelo on the roster just an FYI
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Dec 23, 2016 03:06
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Benne posted:I know this is a down year for LTs but is there anyone worth taking in the mid-to-late 20s? Let's wait for the combine so we can see which project defensive lineman has the best 3 cone shuttle and broadjump.
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Dec 23, 2016 03:13
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Benne posted:I know this is a down year for LTs but is there anyone worth taking in the mid-to-late 20s? if cam Robinson falls, sure
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Dec 23, 2016 03:14
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FizFashizzle posted:I thought he was an ankle. It is.
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Dec 23, 2016 03:15
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Fournette has never been the best RB in his conference
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Dec 23, 2016 03:30
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Raku posted:Fournette has never been the best RB in his conference He's going to get drafted higher than Derrick Henry did and the team that drafts him will actually play him, unlike Derrick Henry.
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Dec 23, 2016 04:32
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I think Derrick Henry only fell because there's a stigma about Alabama RBs. He's looked good this year, but I wouldn't blame teams for not wanting another Trent Richardson or T.J. Yeldon.
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Dec 23, 2016 04:37
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big money big clit posted:He's going to get drafted higher than Derrick Henry did and the team that drafts him will actually play him, unlike Derrick Henry. henry does get played and he owns a lot
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Dec 23, 2016 06:16
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Henry fell because Michigan State's d-line made him look like a chump. People were afraid that he couldn't deal with contact behind the line of scrimmage at all which rightfully set off alarms considering past Alabama RB history. Bama's biggest problem is that Saban is too good at recruiting and fills his o-line with behemoths every year. Their offense isn't complex at all either. Just a ton of hammering run plays mixed in with a WCO. It makes it hard for the Bama backs to translate to the NFL because they're asked to do a lot more in pass protection, catching passes, and dealing with being met in the backfield. I think T.J. Yeldon and Derrick Henry are very similar players and look what's happening to Yeldon.
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Dec 23, 2016 06:29
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Metapod posted:henry does get played and he owns a lot He has like 400 yards on 90 carries, matching the staggering production of, uh, Jaquizz Rogers I guess.
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Dec 23, 2016 11:51
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big money big clit posted:He's going to get drafted higher than Derrick Henry did and the team that drafts him will actually play him, unlike Derrick Henry. Fournette wasn't second best that year either though I dunno man. I just don't see it with Fournette. He's strong, but not that strong, and doesn't have the breakaway speed of some other upright running backs. It all depends on your team a lot in the NFL but I don't think he's the earth shattering prospect a lot of people seem to.
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Dec 23, 2016 13:45
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What the hell happened to Yeldon anyway?
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Dec 23, 2016 14:53
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:What the hell happened to Yeldon anyway? Jaguars
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Raku posted:Fournette wasn't second best that year either though he's also looked like absolute poo poo when playing against guys that'll be in the pros
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Dec 23, 2016 15:21
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mastershakeman posted:he's also looked like absolute poo poo when playing against guys that'll be in the pros If your quality check for guys you want to draft is "looked good against Bama" then you end up drafting Johnny Manziel. e: How do you like Chad Kelly by the way?
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Dec 23, 2016 15:30
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Grittybeard posted:If your quality check for guys you want to draft is "looked good against Bama" then you end up drafting Johnny Manziel. he's too focused on a washed up pornstar also, Fournette sucked against Florida which is the other legit defense he played against. And Mike Evans looked good vs Bama and now looks good in the pros! So did Zeke! (and cardale woops)
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Dec 23, 2016 15:33
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mastershakeman posted:also, Fournette sucked against Florida which is the other legit defense he played against. They were pretty legit the last couple of years too and he was pretty good. I tend to blame the ankle for pretty much everything that happened this year, if that'll be an ongoing issue there's a problem. If not, he's pretty awesome. But who knows, maybe Raku is right about a rival player being bad. Again I'm not saying you should draft him, but he's amazing as hell as a prospect. e: Part of this is my amazement that he did anything when he was like Troy Davis at Iowa State 'they're going to loving hand off to #7' while Les Miles was running that terrible offense.
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Dec 23, 2016 15:41
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I'm very spot on about rival players tyvm I've cried in jealousy of daniel carlson for years!
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I still say Dalvin Cook will be better than Fournette.
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Dec 23, 2016 15:57
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There will be 3 or 4 runningbacks no one has considered that will do better than either of those two, because that is how NFL running backs work.
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Dec 23, 2016 16:07
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:There will be 3 or 4 runningbacks no one has considered that will do better than either of those two, because that is how NFL running backs work. Ray Lawry from ODU, although he's a junior this year and I don't think he's declared for the draft yet so who knows if he will.
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Dec 23, 2016 16:11
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:There will be 3 or 4 runningbacks no one has considered that will do better than either of those two, because that is how NFL running backs work. probably, yeah
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Dec 23, 2016 16:14
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Ehud posted:probably, yeah You should have written "Jay Ajayi approves of this post"
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mastershakeman posted:he's too focused on a washed up pornstar He wasn't supposed to play against Florida due to injury, but he got mad at them and the coaches in a unsurprising move leveraged his future at the chance of winning and let him play.
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Grittybeard posted:Fournette's had (non-serious long term as far as I know) ankle issues all year and is the most talented back since Peterson to come out of college, so I guess him right now? The only reason he wouldn't go top 5 based on talent is the theory that RBs are fungible or if the ankle scares people.  This is totally what they are gonna do again isn't it. gently caress.
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Ehud posted:I still say Dalvin Cook will be better than Fournette. Cook screams the type of runner that you'll never see leave the NFL. Just a very good one cut runner who has some nifty moves in the open field. Foreman is kinda like him too and will probably get a ton more tread his rookie year since he took pretty much every snap out of the shotgun in Texas's offense. Also you guys are insane if you think Fournette is either going to be bad or horribly outplayed by anyone else in this draft. Dude's a four tool RB with some amazing burst and plays the type of upright smart running game you see from David Johnson, Leveon Bell, or Matt Forte.
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Dec 23, 2016 17:24
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why is running upright considered good.. dont you expose yourself to more hits that way?
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:There will be 3 or 4 runningbacks no one has considered that will do better than either of those two, because that is how NFL running backs work. One of them will be James Conner, the next Pitt running back that will be great in the NFL
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Dec 23, 2016 17:51
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Porn on VHS posted:why is running upright considered good.. dont you expose yourself to more hits that way? It's more a comment on their ability and style. Upright or not, how many NFL players could take on Adrian Peterson? It's only a concern when you're clearly not good enough to get away with it in the NFL.
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Dec 23, 2016 17:59
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:There will be 3 or 4 runningbacks no one has considered that will do better than either of those two, because that is how NFL running backs work. Counterpoint: Zelda Elliott
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Porn on VHS posted:why is running upright considered good.. dont you expose yourself to more hits that way? As Fiz said it's more a comment on style. When you're amazing at it, like Adrian Peterson, you become an elite threat. It allows you to deliver better stiff arms, square up against tacklers, and just plain makes you a big, hard to tackle back. If you're bad at it, like Rashard Mendenhall or Mikel Leshoure, then you become an injury prone 3 yard rusher that gets stood up every time he takes contact.
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Fournette won the Louisiana 4A 100m and 200m titles in his senior year of high school. He's pretty fast for a 225 pound guy. He picked up a high ankle sprain before the season started and it never healed fully. He was fatter and slower and didn't practice that much this year so it's hard to read too much into any of it. Last year against Florida he had 180 yards on 31 carries, and 2 TDs.
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Doltos posted:As Fiz said it's more a comment on style. When you're amazing at it, like Adrian Peterson, you become an elite threat. It allows you to deliver better stiff arms, square up against tacklers, and just plain makes you a big, hard to tackle back. If you're bad at it, like Rashard Mendenhall or Mikel Leshoure, then you become an injury prone 3 yard rusher that gets stood up every time he takes contact. don't you dare besmirch the fine University of Illinois rushers , they were great in the NFL and were only brought down the enemies of the Chief
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big money big clit posted:He has like 400 yards on 90 carries, matching the staggering production of, uh, Jaquizz Rogers I guess. 4.5 yards per a carry is pretty good
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If the Titans get in the playoffs I really think Henry will be utilized more, especially wearing teams down in the second half. Ideally I would like to see him get 10-15 touches a game, or at least give him a couple drives.
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Metapod posted:4.5 yards per a carry is pretty good Henry is 13th in the YPC list. Guys around him: Jaquizz Rodgers at 15; Matt Jones at 9. Bills Powell way up at 1; Mark Ingram at 3. And those are just the guys that have similarly limited number of carries, whether due to injury or just not being the premiere back on their team. It ain't bad, but it's not exactly lighting the world on fire either.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:If the Titans get in the playoffs I really think Henry will be utilized more, especially wearing teams down in the second half. Ideally I would like to see him get 10-15 touches a game, or at least give him a couple drives. It feels like every game he gets that many touches he either scores or pulls them down the entire field on a long drive. And every game he doesn't they loving lose FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS
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Hi dudes, it's been a while the Broncos need a solid goon draft to fix the offense. also a qb but we won't draft one. 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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