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Control Volume posted:Activism is about pushing the envelope further, and I dont think we should just settle for having a couple good asses on video game men. Im proposing all male characters in video games have excellent asses, the best available.  for Oglafhttps://i.imgur.com/WxmXarm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/85jdRbJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yJPVUxq.jpg
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Bethamphetamine posted:North Carolina's legislature today has its 5th special session, to repeal HB2. And the repeal fails http://www.hrc.org/blog/breaking-hb2-repeal-fails-deeply-discriminatory-bill-continues-to-target-lg  
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hangedman1984 posted:And the repeal fails 
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Toplowtech posted:American democrats never fail to depress me. This has nothing to do with the democratic party. They are in no way in control right now. The repeal failed because the repeal only would have removed the bathroom rules not the part where they overrode local anti-discrimination ordnances.
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Toplowtech posted:American democrats never fail to depress me. The Republicans control both sides of the legislative branch in North Carolina? Misplaced blame much?
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Mr. Nice! posted:This has nothing to do with the democratic party. They are in no way in control right now.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:The Republicans control both sides of the legislative branch in North Carolina? Misplaced blame much? This isn't dnd if you can't rail about how useless Democrats are.
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RagnarokAngel posted:This isn't dnd if you can't rail about how useless Democrats are. While simultaneously doing jack poo poo about it.
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Why couldn't the democrats use their mind control powers to get republicans to vote for their bill? Useless.
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Toplowtech posted:Okay, so that whole vote was just a pointless show of protest against the law. Anything useful they can do against the law instead of organizing public displays of failure? The new governor is going to certainly stop the state from defending the lawsuits against the law which will speed up it being ruled unconstitutional. Additionally he's likely to declare the law is invalid and not enforceable as it's his job to enforce the laws of the state. The vote wasn't a protest against the law at all. The vote was republicans trying to do damage control and limit the new governor's power/ability to limit their awfulness. They were trying to get public opinion in their favor by "repealing" the bathroom portion of the law but not the part that kills local anti-discrimination ordinances. This was not something done by or orchestrated by the NC democratic party in any way.
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Mr. Nice! posted:The new governor is going to certainly stop the state from defending the lawsuits against the law which will speed up it being ruled unconstitutional. Additionally he's likely to declare the law is invalid and not enforceable as it's his job to enforce the laws of the state.
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Toplowtech posted:Well, then it's still a successful political op to make the opponents to their law looks like powerless idiots, all while failing to repeal it themselves. How do you propose that the opponents repeal a law when they aren't a majority in either chamber of the legislature
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Toplowtech posted:Well, then it's still a successful political op to make the opponents to their law looks like powerless idiots, all while failing to repeal it themselves. What do you mean make their opponents look like powerless idiots? This was not something that had any democratic pushing or support because it was an incomplete repeal and not a real attempt. Once the new governor is in place the law is effectively dead and will be officially dead when the courts strike it down. This was political theater by republicans for republicans at the continued expense of the north carolina taxpayers.
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Toplowtech posted:Well, then it's still a successful political op to make the opponents to their law looks like powerless idiots, all while failing to repeal it themselves. Pst. Hey buddy? It's okay to admit you were wrong instead of doubling down. Take it from me 
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Aleph Null posted:I thought that is what Japan thinks a manly man is, as opposed to the US where we like 'em burly. That's grossly overstating things. Tons of Japanese culture is all about the burly dude as the manly man. Just as there's plenty of American culture where super buff men aren't the ideal. What is true is that American propaganda liked to accuse all Japanese men of being feminine (when they weren't be accused of basically being wild monkeys) during World War II, but that's hardly a reflection of what the Japanese actually were or wanted. That was just about racism.
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Badger of Basra posted:How do you propose that the opponents repeal a law when they aren't a majority in either chamber of the legislature quote:What do you mean make their opponents look like powerless idiots? quote:This was political theater by republicans for republicans at the continued expense of the north carolina taxpayers. Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Pst. Hey buddy? It's okay to admit you were wrong instead of doubling down. Take it from me
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Toplowtech posted:How about they try to make the main message "Republicans fail to repeal their own poo poo bathroom law in lame attempt to save discriminatory anti gay labor laws". Because it was not the message i got reading this thread. You'd get that if you read any of the articles or news, though. Also that's pretty much exactly what I've been saying in this thread.
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fishmech posted:That's grossly overstating things. Tons of Japanese culture is all about the burly dude as the manly man. Just as there's plenty of American culture where super buff men aren't the ideal. I would say there's way more Japanese stuff where effeminate men are badasses than American, and the reaction tends to be way different. For example, when Metal Gear Solid 2 replaced stereotypical manly-man Solid Snake with a blonde beanpole, the Japanese audience was more or less okay with it whereas the American audience was loving enraged.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I would say there's way more Japanese stuff where effeminate men are badasses than American, and the reaction tends to be way different. For example, when Metal Gear Solid 2 replaced stereotypical manly-man Solid Snake with a blonde beanpole, the Japanese audience was more or less okay with it whereas the American audience was loving enraged. Is nerd culture in Japan a reflection of society at large? This seems culturally condescending and a mite Orientalist?
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stone cold posted:Is nerd culture in Japan a reflection of society at large? This seems culturally condescending and a mite Orientalist? I would say no given the number of manga made with LGBT themes and the LGBT perception in general society are very at odds. Just as an LGBT need I read lots of that kind of manga. poo poo yaoi culture is a huge thing but it does not mean gay dudes are treated great.
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stone cold posted:Is nerd culture in Japan a reflection of society at large? This seems culturally condescending and a mite Orientalist? I think this would kind of depend on how narrowly you define "nerd culture." In recent years, it's kind of become a catchall for "lowbrow" media. Even then, I was making an apples-to-apples comparison between Japanese nerds and American nerds in a conversation specifically about media portrayals, so I'm not sure if it matters.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I think this would kind of depend on how narrowly you define "nerd culture." In recent years, it's kind of become a catchall for "lowbrow" media. Even then, I was making an apples-to-apples comparison between Japanese nerds and American nerds in a conversation specifically about media portrayals, so I'm not sure if it matters. Well, you talked nebulously about Japanese stuff and Japanese masculinity so that's not an apples to apples conversation per se. And I don't think otaku culture is mainstream Japanese culture necessarily, no.
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My apologies, I should have worded my first post a little more clearly but I'm running on very little sleep.
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Badger of Basra posted:How do you propose that the opponents repeal a law when they aren't a majority in either chamber of the legislature Normally, I'd say via political horse-trading, but the NC GOP already just proved they can't be trusted to bargain in good faith ever again. 
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So is Cooper capable of striking down HB2 or not?
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Pollyanna posted:So is Cooper capable of striking down HB2 or not? He's just the governor. He could stop enforcing it but he can't repeal it.
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Badger of Basra posted:He's just the governor. He could stop enforcing it but he can't repeal it. He also isn't going to defend legal challenges and it'll get struck down by the courts.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He also isn't going to defend legal challenges and it'll get struck down by the courts. and as prop 8 proved, random-rear end groups don't have the standing to defend a law on behalf of a state government if that state government decides not to defend that law.
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Instant Sunrise posted:and as prop 8 proved, random-rear end groups don't have the standing to defend a law on behalf of a state government if that state government decides not to defend that law. The legislature, on the other hand, can-- that's what happened with DOMA as I recall. The "Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group," a partisan entity of the majority party in the House, stepped in to fill the DOJ's role. That could well happen here.
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In very weird news, this: America's young earth creationist sweetheart is taking back the rainbow from gays and any spectrum of Norse/Asatru, by shining multicolor lights on his replica of Noah's ark, which is a giftshop. Feel the sting of his blade, liberals. This winter solstice is reclaimed for Santa and christians!
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Bethamphetamine posted:In very weird news, this: how will my Norse slashfiction OTP ever make it to Midgard now
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Bethamphetamine posted:In very weird news, this: Reinds me of when Russia passed the Gay propaganda law they found themselves in a bit of a quandary as in addition to gay pride the rainbow flag is the official flag of peace and a number of territories including the Jewish Autonomous Region, a part of the Russian Federation. This meant they were in trouble, either they had to let a part of the Federation violate federal law, or move to curtail an Oblasts autonomy, which given the political instability in Russia could easily back fire. Fortunately they found a man to explain away the issue. https://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamelder/russias-jewish-flag-is-not-gay-kremlin-expert-says?utm_term=.rqK5p82Qm#.gwya3Eyxw quote:“On its flag the gay movement uses seven stripes, not six,” Valyaev explained. “The rainbow and their flag have nothing in common, it’s totally different.”
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Ah yes, ROYGLBBIV And people say LGBT people do silly things with acronyms.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Can we collectively start asking more of "allies" yet? Look the allies are really busy here repealing non-discrimination ordinances so we can get our bathroom privileges back, let's not waste their time with more demands ...sorry, I'm still mad about that, trying to resolve it with not-entirely-accurate humor.
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The repeal of that ordinance didn't actually change anything, right? It was made non-enforceable by HB2.
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http://abc11.com/politics/naacp-calls-for-boycott-of-nc-over-hb2;-cooper-disagrees/1668551/ The Democratic elect governor of North Carolina is urging a #BetterWay. Actually, we should not boycott his state. We should instead work to improve the economy of his state because boycotts are bad for his state's economy. The NAACP is gearing up for a national boycott of the state in response to the HB2 repeal debacle, but over the course of the election and fallout afterward there are a bazillion other reasons they'd want to tell the state to gently caress off until they make some changes. I'm shocked they weren't already boycotting the state, honestly.
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