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neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Migishu posted:

Christ I remember you telling us about the egg. Glad you're out of that poo poo hole (even though they fired you) and that you're now onto something new and, hopefully, better.

Honestly, if they hadn't fired me, I'd have never quit, and thus would never have found this job. The new company is extremely promising though, and my boss isn't bad at all. Part of my cleaning duties include the bins, with their lids and dividers, that hold the parts that are cleaned. Wednesday, I mentioned to him that I'd like to put up some signage to designate a specific spot as the bin drop off, and add some directions to place the bins, lids, and dividers into separate piles so as to make my job easier. Half an hour later, he brought me some signs he made up and some double sided tape. The next morning, whoever dropped off bins had actually read the signs and complied. It was surreal, like being in a.... what's that thing that's the opposite of a nightmare?

Well, anyway, I'm just really hopeful about this new place. And if it doesn't work out well, I know I only have to endure it for a year until next fall, when I can start prepping to get an HVAC technician certification. I would've done that this year had I learned about it in time, and not landed this job.

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PBS
Sep 21, 2015
Sounds like something that may be fun to do part time, I like cleaning stuff.

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

PBS posted:

Sounds like something that may be fun to do part time, I like cleaning stuff.

The best part about cleaning, by far, is that hearing protection is "recommended" in the cleaning area, due to a loud air hose being used to quickly dry the cleaned parts. Why is this good? Because while I'm busting through a dozen totes and all the associated parts, I am totally allowed and encouraged to wear my over-the-ear headphones and zone out to some :krad: beats.

I just discovered Caravan Palace a few weeks ago. I still can't get Lone Digger out of my head. You know, gently caress it, have a link (NSFW due to blood and curvy animated anthro women)

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

neogeo0823 posted:

The best part about cleaning, by far, is that hearing protection is "recommended" in the cleaning area, due to a loud air hose being used to quickly dry the cleaned parts. Why is this good? Because while I'm busting through a dozen totes and all the associated parts, I am totally allowed and encouraged to wear my over-the-ear headphones and zone out to some :krad: beats.

I just discovered Caravan Palace a few weeks ago. I still can't get Lone Digger out of my head. You know, gently caress it, have a link (NSFW due to blood and curvy animated anthro women)

Holy poo poo I'd never heard of them before! Thanks man.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

neogeo0823 posted:

The best part about cleaning, by far, is that hearing protection is "recommended" in the cleaning area, due to a loud air hose being used to quickly dry the cleaned parts. Why is this good? Because while I'm busting through a dozen totes and all the associated parts, I am totally allowed and encouraged to wear my over-the-ear headphones and zone out to some :krad: beats.

I don't think headphones qualify as hearing protection (or at least not past a certain volume.) I'd look into industrial earplugs to supplement, at least. I'm not an expert though but you might want to talk to someone who is, or do some research.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
Well, if it's recommended but not required it probably doesn't pose a health risk, it's just loud and obnoxious. I Am Not An OSHA Specialist though.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin
Good news, my boss and his boss have both instructed me to untangle myself from all non-infrastructure related tasks and focus only on the tasks I've put in our Kanban board. (please note, I don't think this will happen, but its nice to dream).

Bad news, still no word about altering my job title or adjusting my salary. I have my review next Wednesday and if they give me 2% again I'm not sure how I won't just walk out the door.

neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Che Delilas posted:

I don't think headphones qualify as hearing protection (or at least not past a certain volume.) I'd look into industrial earplugs to supplement, at least. I'm not an expert though but you might want to talk to someone who is, or do some research.

Segmentation Fault posted:

Well, if it's recommended but not required it probably doesn't pose a health risk, it's just loud and obnoxious. I Am Not An OSHA Specialist though.

IIRC, that's it, yeah. It's recommended, but not required, and really, only when the air hose is in use. In truth though, the ear plugs never really worked well for me. They always pop out and shift around and the like. The over the ear ones that I have dull the noise about as well, with the added bonus of playing music.

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Holy poo poo I'd never heard of them before! Thanks man.

No problem, always happy to bring new things to people. :D

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



neogeo0823 posted:

I just discovered Caravan Palace a few weeks ago. I still can't get Lone Digger out of my head. You know, gently caress it, have a link (NSFW due to blood and curvy animated anthro women)

If you ever get a chance to see them live, do it. I caught them at the House of Blues in Chicago a couple years ago and it was a great show.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

neogeo0823 posted:

I just discovered Caravan Palace a few weeks ago. I still can't get Lone Digger out of my head. You know, gently caress it, have a link (NSFW due to blood and curvy animated anthro women)

The joke right after Zootopia was 'man, Gazelle sure had a rough start to her singing career'. Song is catchy as gently caress though.

Wear ear buds and some over the ear hearing protection, the 30 dB gun muffs from sportsmans or wherever work really well. You can listen to music at a comfortable level and still be completely oblivious to a fireworks stand fire behind you, it's great.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



There is over the ear protection that has built in speakers and a 3.5mm jack. I'm not sure what there is for sustained noise, though. The shooting hearing protection is designed to muffle sudden loud noises and then there are microphones that pipe the sound in when there's not huge noises. I'm not sure how they would handle constant noise.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

neogeo0823 posted:

I just discovered Caravan Palace a few weeks ago. I still can't get Lone Digger out of my head. You know, gently caress it, have a link (NSFW due to blood and curvy animated anthro women)

Welcome to electroswing!

https://open.spotify.com/user/totalnewbie/playlist/2mSq3ohNxRmxDEbkM7x56L

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

neogeo0823 posted:

In truth though, the ear plugs never really worked well for me. They always pop out and shift around and the like.

You probably aren't inserting them correctly if that's happening to you.

https://youtu.be/3S6dthcSVIM

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Segmentation Fault posted:

Well, if it's recommended but not required it probably doesn't pose a health risk, it's just loud and obnoxious. I Am Not An OSHA Specialist though.

Lack of proper ear protection with loud stuff will make you deaf quickly. Trust me from personal experience, being a musician and a lot of time with audiologists.

Get the real construction style poo poo.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
I had my hearing tested last month because I work in enclosed rooms with loud speakers. I was totally fine except for the high end in my left ear, so the technician asked me if I had ever been a truck driver. Apparently most of them suffer from hearing loss in their left ears because of the rapid pressure fluctuations caused by driving for extended periods with an open window. I knew 10 years of smoking while commuting was going to cause me health problems, but I had no idea it would be hearing loss.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?
I'm not sure how my hearing has survived as long as it has. I worked at the FedEx hub for a couple years with basically no hearing protection (it caused me to have inflammation in my ears. And the job before that was a lot of travel with the window down. I began to worry at first about my hearing because my downstairs neighbor complained several times about "my music" (I didn't listen to music).

But then I had a hearing test for sometimes working in a plant at my last help desk job. The lady took forever on the high end part because she didn't believe that I was actually hearing what I was pushing the button for and repeated the test 4 times.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Holy poo poo I'd never heard of them before! Thanks man.

nthing this. And they're on Apple Music too! Now I know what I'll be listening to during the last few workdays of the year.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

22 Eargesplitten posted:

There is over the ear protection that has built in speakers and a 3.5mm jack. I'm not sure what there is for sustained noise, though. The shooting hearing protection is designed to muffle sudden loud noises and then there are microphones that pipe the sound in when there's not huge noises. I'm not sure how they would handle constant noise.
Active ear protectors are basically just a microphone connected to the speakers through a dynamic range compressor chip, meaning the physical muffs silence everything and then the electronics let through sound up to a certain dB level. It will muffle the sound volume of constant noise just as well as a sudden bang, but an annoying sound is probably going to annoying at lower volume as well.

That said, I think most active ear protectors that have an aux in plug will work as regular headphones when they're turned off. Mine do at least.

e: Also Caravan Palace owns. If you like them you should also check out Parov Stelar and Tape Five

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 25, 2016

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
A guy walks into my office this morning and says to me, "I've been using this same login and password for my account for a long time, but today when I try to log in on the lab computer it's giving me an error."

I ask him "well can you show me this error?"

So we walk across the hall to the lab and he starts to put in his credentials so he can show me the error and.. he's putting his password in the username field and his username in the password field on the Windows login screen.

I politely tell him which box is which, and he was able to log in.

Fairly young guy too..

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

ErIog posted:

A guy walks into my office this morning and says to me, "I've been using this same login and password for my account for a long time, but today when I try to log in on the lab computer it's giving me an error."

I ask him "well can you show me this error?"

So we walk across the hall to the lab and he starts to put in his credentials so he can show me the error and.. he's putting his password in the username field and his username in the password field on the Windows login screen.

I politely tell him which box is which, and he was able to log in.

Fairly young guy too..

I'm pretty sure Windows has labelled the fields with grey text for the longest time. You can make everything self-documenting, but you can't make people open their eyes...

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Segmentation Fault posted:

I'm pretty sure Windows has labelled the fields with grey text for the longest time. You can make everything self-documenting, but you can't make people open their eyes...

His account is like more than a year old and he talked about his username/password always having worked before. He seemed to be an appropriate level of embarrassed. I'd take 10 of him over some of my more annoying tickets like the one that follows.

For reasons that are long, complicated, and involve some amounts of security theater our network requires manual DHCP registration for devices.

I get a ticket today from an assistant prof saying, "Please register this MAC address: 52:55..."

So I'm a network whiz kid and notice that, woah, that G/L bit is set af. So I call him up and ask him what the deal is and he explains that he bought a second NIC to use with a KVM he's standing up.

So I tell him, well we're not really in the business of registering fake MAC addresses, but that I will gladly register the address of his new real NIC that has a proper vendor ID. So he sends that, I register it, and send back a pre-filled form asking him to confirm and send it back with a signature. That last part is because I'm a nice person, but I think it's technically against our office's stated policy.

He e-mails back like 15 minutes later saying, "Well, just as I thought, I'm still not getting an IP address. Can you try registering 52:55..."

So at that point, thank god, my boss comes back from his meeting and I escalate it to him since:
a) I can tell by the paucity of local MAC addresses in our database that he probably agrees with me, but I'm not sure since there are some local MACs in there and he hasn't shared any actual policy with me in the 12 months I've worked here.
b) With the kind of tone he's taking, I can tell it's not my place to tell an assistant prof. that he should probably fix his KVM settings and he's barking up the wrong tree here at the network office.

So yeah, I'll take the sheepish grad student not knowing which box to put his username/password in over that kind of ticket where I know exactly what the problem is and how to solve it but it's difficult because ~:~P O L I T I C S~:~

ErIog fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 26, 2016

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

22 Eargesplitten posted:

There is over the ear protection that has built in speakers and a 3.5mm jack. I'm not sure what there is for sustained noise, though. The shooting hearing protection is designed to muffle sudden loud noises and then there are microphones that pipe the sound in when there's not huge noises. I'm not sure how they would handle constant noise.

Collateral Damage posted:

Active ear protectors are basically just a microphone connected to the speakers through a dynamic range compressor chip, meaning the physical muffs silence everything and then the electronics let through sound up to a certain dB level. It will muffle the sound volume of constant noise just as well as a sudden bang, but an annoying sound is probably going to annoying at lower volume as well.

That's one kind. The other kind just cuts the speakers when the detected sound at the mic crosses a certain dB threshold. For gunshots it works, for anything else it sucks. I wear this kind; at work (power tools) I just leave the active function turned off and treat them like generic muffs.

Is there any variety of earplugs that don't start to hurt after being in for an hour+? I don't use them everyday to where I'd get used to it, but I do use them to mute road noise on long road trips but I have to take them out for like 15-20 minutes occasionally or it gets obnoxiously uncomfortable.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Javid posted:

That's one kind. The other kind just cuts the speakers when the detected sound at the mic crosses a certain dB threshold. For gunshots it works, for anything else it sucks. I wear this kind; at work (power tools) I just leave the active function turned off and treat them like generic muffs.

Is there any variety of earplugs that don't start to hurt after being in for an hour+? I don't use them everyday to where I'd get used to it, but I do use them to mute road noise on long road trips but I have to take them out for like 15-20 minutes occasionally or it gets obnoxiously uncomfortable.

Peltor in the $300-400 range are amazing and I highly recommend them.

re: earplugs: I just started wearing over ear ones after a couple of years. I may look stupid but they are way better and way more comfortable unless it's stupid warm.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

n0tqu1tesane posted:

You probably aren't inserting them correctly if that's happening to you.

https://youtu.be/3S6dthcSVIM

Thanks for this, it turns out I've been using earplugs slightly wrong all these years. (No wonder they never worked very well.)

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Javid posted:

Is there any variety of earplugs that don't start to hurt after being in for an hour+? I don't use them everyday to where I'd get used to it, but I do use them to mute road noise on long road trips but I have to take them out for like 15-20 minutes occasionally or it gets obnoxiously uncomfortable.

I just use my in-ear headphones for that, I like the "triple flange" styles that look like this, they both hold in well and stay comfortable for like 8+ hours at a time:

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GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Buildings and grounds replaced all the thermostats in all the buildings with wifi stats. Our firewall blocks the traffic on our main SSID, but the guest SSID works. We end up creating a new SSID that only allows traffic to the cloud servers for those specific stats. The employees of course set them all to the guest network and complains about how slow updating the stats are from their phone. I switch one to the new SSID and it works great. They ask me to switch the other 3 dozen or so.

Yeah, no. Here are the SSID credentials, have fun.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Javid posted:

Is there any variety of earplugs that don't start to hurt after being in for an hour+? I don't use them everyday to where I'd get used to it, but I do use them to mute road noise on long road trips but I have to take them out for like 15-20 minutes occasionally or it gets obnoxiously uncomfortable.

These have always worked well for me http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/hearing-protection.html

WhoNeedsAName
Nov 30, 2013

DigitalMocking posted:

Good news, my boss and his boss have both instructed me to untangle myself from all non-infrastructure related tasks and focus only on the tasks I've put in our Kanban board. (please note, I don't think this will happen, but its nice to dream)

Our software dev recently left to live out of the back of a van for a year* so I got the wonderful task of unfucking all of his half finished code. It means that I'm missing out on all infrastructure projects for the foreseeable future including the SAN replacement and ESXi to Hyper-V migration projects. The worst part is that everything he's written is in PHP, Python 2.4 and Perl. I have absolutely no clue about any of these (the last thing I coded in was C# and it was a bug ridden attempt at an automated email signature generator).

*He's a fellow rock climber so I can understand why he wants to do it but we're in loving Scotland...

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



WhoNeedsAName posted:

]The worst part is that everything he's written is in PHP, Python 2.4 and Perl.

:stare:

I know there's a lot of companies that are stuck using 2.7 because of external dependancies for Python, but 2.4?

I'm not even going to touch the PHP or Perl. Every time I try to imagine something created using all 3 interoperating with each other my mind shuts down to protect me from the horror.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

flosofl posted:

:stare:

I know there's a lot of companies that are stuck using 2.7 because of external dependancies for Python, but 2.4?

I'm not even going to touch the PHP or Perl. Every time I try to imagine something created using all 3 interoperating with each other my mind shuts down to protect me from the horror.

Must be CentOS 5 based.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

WhoNeedsAName posted:

Our software dev recently left to live out of the back of a van for a year* so I got the wonderful task of unfucking all of his half finished code. It means that I'm missing out on all infrastructure projects for the foreseeable future including the SAN replacement and ESXi to Hyper-V migration projects. The worst part is that everything he's written is in PHP, Python 2.4 and Perl. I have absolutely no clue about any of these (the last thing I coded in was C# and it was a bug ridden attempt at an automated email signature generator).

*He's a fellow rock climber so I can understand why he wants to do it but we're in loving Scotland...

That sounds loving awful.

2.4? Jesus christ, I will drink for you.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

ratbert90 posted:

Must be CentOS 5 based.

Hey man, CentOS 5 isn't being EOL'ed until end of q2.

AMA about inheriting a Cent5-based cluster and being told to "make it secure." Thankfully I should be able to air gap it with Cent 6 or Cent 7 machines.

ErIog fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Dec 27, 2016

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

ErIog posted:

Hey man, CentOS 5 isn't being EOL'ed until end of q4.

AMA about inheriting a Cent5-based cluster and being told to "make it secure." Thankfully I should be able to air gap it with Cent 6 or Cent 7 machines.
Well it's not getting support after March 31, so good luck with that.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

anthonypants posted:

Well it's not getting support after March 31, so good luck with that.

Yeah, that's what I said in my post, and the entire thing is slated to be shut down as soon as I can move all its services to the cloud so we can save on our electricity bill.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

ErIog posted:

Yeah, that's what I said in my post, and the entire thing is slated to be shut down as soon as I can move all its services to the cloud so we can save on our electricity bill.
You have weird quarters, then.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

anthonypants posted:

You have weird quarters, then.

I do. I work in Japan. March 31st is the end of the fiscal year here.

I edited to put it in terms of American fiscal quarters.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ErIog posted:

Hey man, CentOS 5 isn't being EOL'ed until end of q2.

AMA about inheriting a Cent5-based cluster and being told to "make it secure." Thankfully I should be able to air gap it with Cent 6 or Cent 7 machines.

Oh I am well aware of when CentOS 5 is being EOL'ed, as our application runs off of it.
Best thing you can do is to make sure SELinux is set to enforcing and that root is disabled. :v:

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

ErIog posted:

AMA about inheriting a Cent5-based cluster and being told to "make it secure."

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

22 Eargesplitten posted:

There is over the ear protection that has built in speakers and a 3.5mm jack. I'm not sure what there is for sustained noise, though. The shooting hearing protection is designed to muffle sudden loud noises and then there are microphones that pipe the sound in when there's not huge noises. I'm not sure how they would handle constant noise.

In general, active mic shooting muffs will just cut out the mic/speakers when noise is above a certain db level, so if the room is noisy enough to trip them, the 3.5mm jack is useless.

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sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007
Printer <blah> out of ink

I grab the toner and head down. As soon as it's alive again, it starts spitting out full page color images.

Long story short, someone fed an image of Carrie Fisher (RIP) in the slave costume to Rasterbator and decided it needed to be 20 pages wide...

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