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Pomp posted:trump won because he made (hollow) economic promises and hillary promised not trump, and did victory lap bullshit while people on the ground where telling her they need help. Trump won with a lower turnout than the last three losers had. the rules I'm talking about are dumb poo poo like "oh, Trump got into a public argument with a Gold Star family, clearly he has been disqualified, the voters will never accept that" or, for that matter, "government shutdowns are political suicide" or "surely the GOP can't get away with stonewalling a supreme court nomination for an entire year"
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comedyblissoption posted:i'm still laughing that this was one of the terrible and ineffective slogans they were pushing After seeing how Clinton's "experience" fared against Obama's "change" in '08, the DNC as usual decided to double-down on a bad idea.
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Lord of Pie posted:
Also, Martin Van Buren was more qualified.
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How was she even the most qualified anyways? LBJ and Buchanan had wayyy more experience than her. It's a dumbass self absorbed thing to say no matter what tho. Did everyone read that Daily Beast article about how Nomiki Konst said Bernie volunteers tried offering their help in rust belt states and the HRC campaign basically said "TV ads are effective enough"? poo poo gets me tight. If Hillary and especially her crew could've pulled their collective head out their collective rear end, we wouldn't be condemned to 4+ years of loving Donald Trump. Every time I think about it I get hot.
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Joementum posted:Also, Martin Van Buren was more qualified. Also, you know, former WWII Fighter Pilot, Congressmen, RNC Chair, Ambassador to China, Director of the CIA, and Vice President, President George HW Bush.
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I'd say Eisenhower too, although that could be debated, dude was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces during WWII.
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Herbert Hoover was the first president to never hold elected office or high military office. He's in great company. iirc Trump is the first to never hold any government office.
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NumberLast posted:Herbert Hoover was the first president to never hold elected office or high military office. trump definitely strikes me as a hoover
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Jazerus posted:trump definitely strikes me as a hoover Zachary Taylor, Grant, and Ike didn't hold elected office either. I don't want to compare them to Trump though, they were all Generals at least.
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NumberLast posted:Herbert Hoover was the first president to never hold elected office or high military office. Chester A. Arthur, proud son of Vermont*, never held elected office. His only government experience prior to being elected Vice President was as Collector of the Port of New York, which was the most important civil service job in the country, but an appointed position. His military service included appointed positions in the New York militia and he never led units or saw combat. Technically he was elected to be Vice President before serving as President, after the assassination of Garfield, but he held that role for only a few months during which time he refused to travel to Washington because he didn't want to be seen as taking over while Garfield was still alive and suffering from his wounds. He's our least qualified President... for another month at least. * Also, our first birther President! There were rumors that Arthur had been born in Quebec rather than northern Vermont, which would have disqualified him from being President.
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At least Hoover built useful things like bridges and dams and not dumb things like failing casinos and hotels.
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on the bright side, if Trump is our Hoover that means that Cyborg Bernie Sanders is right around the corner to build the New New Deal on the shattered skulls of the rich
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HorseRenoir posted:on the bright side, if Trump is our Hoover that means that Cyborg Bernie Sanders is right around the corner to build the New New Deal on the shattered skulls of the rich This makes me very happy to dream about, poster with an umbrella Thugga avatar.
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CrumFUNist! posted:After seeing how Clinton's "experience" fared against Obama's "change" in '08, the DNC as usual decided to double-down on a bad idea. look in 2008 everyone gave obama poo poo for his lack of experience, so this time they campaigned solely on experience what could go wrong
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Yinlock posted:look in 2008 everyone gave obama poo poo for his lack of experience, so this time they campaigned solely on experience If you were tasked with selling Clinton to the public, there's not much that could be used beyond idpol or a superficial listing of her resume. Charisma and sincerity in the "most progressive platform in history" were out, especially with her touting Kissinger, finance assholes, and Republican endorsements. So it's not surprising the DNC polished that electoral turd with a sweaty desperation that became itself a problem in the eyes of the Democratic constituency.
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Don't worry guys, Im sure Trump will improve NCs electoral integrity. 
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Ace of Baes posted:Don't worry guys, Im sure Trump will improve NCs electoral integrity. It'll probably start looking better by comparison anyway
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I for one am excited for Trump to improve race relations in the form of an arms race.
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] Holy poo poo
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GlyphGryph posted:elite means you are better, more skilled, or at least more respected and refined than other people I totally get what you're saying, Trump is vulgar but he's also materially elite - a dangerous combo in American politics since at least Andrew Jackson
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blamegame posted:Holy poo poo It should be noted that Jon Lovitz said "it stinks!" when he was slamming Andy Dick's head into the bar.
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] Too bad Jon Lovitz didn't hit the weights way too hard like Joe Piscopo before he did this
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] I have never given Lovitz enough credit
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Accretionist posted:I have never given Lovitz enough credit to be fair, you shouldn't give him much, but yea that moment deffo puts him better than the rest on the 'weird hollywood douchebags' scale
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zen death robot posted:The 80s are back in nuclear arms race form! Where's our Devo, then.
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Joementum posted:Also, Martin Van Buren was more qualified. Right now John Kerry has more qualifications than Hillary: SoS, Lt. Gov, Senator, decorated veteran, running for presidency in an incompetent fashion.
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comedyblissoption posted:i'm still laughing that this was one of the terrible and ineffective slogans they were pushing The other one was that she has GREAT Foreign Policy Experience which any objective examination of her tenure as SoS and her actual views on foreign policy would send everyone except the most diehard neocons running.
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zen death robot posted:The 80s are back in nuclear arms race form! 
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Rand alPaul posted:Right now John Kerry has more qualifications than Hillary: SoS, Lt. Gov, Senator, decorated veteran, running for presidency in an incompetent fashion. You thought Clinton's "Pokemon Go to the polls" was bad? Kerry would shoehorn in terrible pop culture references to shows like The Sopranos and The OC (this was 2004) in his speeches and it was very obvious he had no idea what those shows were. Also he used Trump's "You're Fired!" from The Apprentice because irony hates us all. Kerry always talked like he never met another human before.
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zen death robot posted:The 80s are back in nuclear arms race form! [blows dust off a floppy disc, it reads "STAR WARS PROGRAM"] "I think the president's gonna want to see this Kellyanne..."
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I just want a pol to talk about things they actually like when trying to be relatable. Talk about the merits of different bird calls for 10 minutes or something. Assuming they legitimately cared that would be endearing as gently caress.
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Thanks, Obama. https://twitter.com/EliLake/status/812397776613113856
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] 
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NumberLast posted:I just want a pol to talk about things they actually like when trying to be relatable. Talk about the merits of different bird calls for 10 minutes or something. Assuming they legitimately cared that would be endearing as gently caress. I would vote for a birder president in a fuckin heartbeat
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zen death robot posted:The 80s are back in nuclear arms race form! except trump is racing with nobody to stockpile nukes because he's not allowed to use them
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