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Dejan Bimble posted:Duhh duhhh duhhh I'm tae I can't use context clues to understand anecdotes intended to build context for the alarmingly bad shooting of Marcus Smart This is rude
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Hahah this is cute, I like Lebron James https://www.instagram.com/p/BOX3-1YBvRQ/?hl=en
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Sixers just need to upgrade their bench vets from the Bayless's of the world to the Dudleys. Either way most likely getting two top 10 picks in a guard heavy draft is great news for them.
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Sixers will be fine. I doubt they seriously targeted vets right now because why would you spend your cap to be a 35 win team? They still are probably a couple years away because it takes time to put your team together and I still think there are questions about Embiid that can only be answered after several months of ~30 mpg play. Players don't pay for expensive buyouts and pay for playing in the NBA, I don't know why people insist on using the fact that a player has to wait out their buyout as some proof that they don't want to play for team X. xbilkis posted:It's almost 2017 and the NBA still hasn't accepted that every offensive big man who is a defensive liability has to be a sixth man now...sad stuff Kevin Love was considered a defensive liability and now he has a ring. Bosh was considered one in Toronto and now he has 2 (though he wasn't considered one when he won them). Dirk is probably the biggest defensive liability at the 4 in NBA Finals history and he has a ring (and probably should have another one). You can build a team many different ways.
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No one mentioned buyouts. E: I also agree that the Sixers are going to be ultimately fine. They have a foundation that should be hard to screw up. But they're so far away. Rick fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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Dec 24, 2016 17:03
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Kevin love proved us all wrong when he murdered the unanimous charlatan MVP in cold blood before our very eyes.
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LAL Def Rtg: 112.3 (29th of 30) minne Def Rtg: 111.1 (27th of 30) Phila Def Rtg: 108.3 (20th of 30) And Phila's best defensive have barely played.
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Stats and how not to use them.
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Lockback posted:Sixers will be fine. I doubt they seriously targeted vets right now because why would you spend your cap to be a 35 win team? They still are probably a couple years away because it takes time to put your team together and I still think there are questions about Embiid that can only be answered after several months of ~30 mpg play. I'd like a couple of vets that can play at NBA starter level, even if it does something meaningless like turn a 20 win team into a 30 win team. I don't want the younger guys to develop bad habits because they're playing with guards who shouldn't be getting 25+ mpg in the NBA. Embiid should be able to kick it out to someone who can shoot. Simmons (eventually) should be able to dish to someone who can get open. I don't know if it's just their guards not seeing it, or no one making the runs, but they never find anyone streaking to the basket. Their offensive fast break is non-existent, and they get killed on the fast break defensively. I don't know how some of that stuff will ever develop without players who can execute along with the young talent. I don't want them to get used to making GBS threads away 10 point leads on the regular because they lack the NBA talent to hang with anyone for 48 minutes either.
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Rick posted:Stats and how not to use them. Lol I just copy pasted numbers.
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Arguing about what really bad team might possibly be kind of ok first is really, really stupid
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The Wolves are undefeated against the Sixers and Lakers this year ergo they are the better team case closed.
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IcePhoenix posted:The Wolves are undefeated against the Sixers and Lakers this year ergo they are the better team case closed. Imagine the Wolves but with competent defense and less turnovers. I don't even think they should ship any of their pieces either, that Wiggins/KAT/Lavine lineup looks beyond potent on offense, especially now that Lavine doesn't gently caress up easy 3's.
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He hasn't really hosed up easy threes since his rookie year, to be fair (and even then he was shooting 34% from deep as a 19 year old).
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Sabonis really excites me for what he could become
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cravius posted:Sabonis really excites me for what he could become That's another thing I noticed in the pels/thunder game. He moves really well for a guy his size and looks like he understands the game really well
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Doltos posted:Imagine the Wolves but with competent defense and less turnovers. I don't even think they should ship any of their pieces either, that Wiggins/KAT/Lavine lineup looks beyond potent on offense, especially now that Lavine doesn't gently caress up easy 3's. The defense will go as KAT goes, and Wiggins has all the tools to be a reasonably decent defensive wing. LaVine will probably never be a benefit but whether the future PG is Rubio or Dunn will mean the backcourt D will be fine. I want a good 3&D SF that can come off the bench early and let either LaVine or Wiggins play the 2 with the bench more. Keep tanking your market value, Tony Snell.
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Paul Zuvella posted:That's another thing I noticed in the pels/thunder game. He moves really well for a guy his size and looks like he understands the game really well He's gonna be a solid player I think. And he avoided his father's mistake of not going to the NBA as soon as possible, so that's more experience against top flight competition. As iron sharpens iron, so one baller sharpens another.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Kevin love proved us all wrong when he murdered the unanimous charlatan MVP in cold blood before our very eyes.
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The Utah Jazz are a bunch of thugs (especially their whites) and will be real good once Hill gets back and gets the offense going.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I like how they even spelled his name wrong That was me
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I know most everybody realizes that Houston is taking a ton of three's, but looking it up on basketball reference is pretty funny:
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euphronius posted:Literally 3 european players chose the sixers over Europe this year. Please update your memes. The age of refusal, or of stashing decent prospects, is over. Guys are never going to choose europe over the NBA, unless their contract is structured in a way that makes it impossible financially. Aside from Mega Leks, which is an Adriatic league team owned by an agent specifically built to exhibit toolsy draftable young euros to NBA scouts, young guys don't get minutes (except in the case of extremely good players like Porzingis), coaches don't play young players. They're not really getting extra development if they stay in europe. If they do get minutes, it's on the junior team, a terrible level of competition. Everybody who can come over will come over. And tons of young european players are choosing to play college basketball here, becasue they actually get to play minutes and games against real competition. Only the guys who aren't good enough to get developmental minutes here, boys who need to grow into men, players who need to drastically improve skills, will remain stashed. BWV posted:The Utah Jazz are a bunch of thugs (especially their whites) and will be real good once Hill gets back and gets the offense going. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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We should buy a Euro basketball team and only play hot prospects and call it Boyz2Men
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Not only is Portland bad right now, they are awful to watch and depressing to think about. It's like watching someone die a slow death of an incurable disease. Terminal Evan Turner-itis.
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Spacebump posted:I'm shocked a shoe company hasn't made their own version of Mega Leks yet. They do sponsor roughly 100 billion AAU teams here and all the big tournaments, ie Nike Mcdonalds All American game, and Adidas has europe with the Adidas Nations camp. They might see directly owning a pro team as a conflict since they want to be on the feet of all the pros
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Spacebump posted:I'm shocked a shoe company hasn't made their own version of Mega Leks yet. I mean, the AAU has that pretty cornered right now so edit: beat
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crazycello posted:I know most everybody realizes that Houston is taking a ton of three's, but looking it up on basketball reference is pretty funny: The problem with that Memphis game was that they didn't take enough threes. e: The '06 SSOL Suns would be #17 this season in threes attempted, and #19 in pace. Dejan Bimble posted:The age of refusal, or of stashing decent prospects, is over. Guys are never going to choose europe over the NBA, unless their contract is structured in a way that makes it impossible financially. There's still a few holdouts. Llull (who, if these Clutchfans posts are correct, is a coward of the ages), Teodesic. I wonder if the new CBA has any sort of provision for foreign players to compensate for the rise in crazy high buyouts. (i.e. a higher amount of money for buyouts that doesn't count towards the cap). Haven't heard anything. chunkles fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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crazycello posted:I know most everybody realizes that Houston is taking a ton of three's, but looking it up on basketball reference is pretty funny: Setting and breaking a record four times in the past month, cool.
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chunkles posted:The problem with that Memphis game was that they didn't take enough threes. You're right, those are good exceptions. Guys who are at the top in Europe who are making decent money and won't make more in the US, having to wait for a rookie contract to expire, and who would be backups rather than stars.
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The exploding cap changed that equation a bit and you saw a few more euros come over.
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leftist heap posted:Not only is Portland bad right now, they are awful to watch and depressing to think about. It's like watching someone die a slow death of an incurable disease. Terminal Evan Turner-itis. what could they realistically do to make themselves better?
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Metapod posted:what could they realistically do to make themselves better? Trade CJ McCollum or something, you can get by with a bad PG defender if everyone else steps it up but dear god McCollum and Lillard are just ghastly together on the defensive end
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Cool Buff Man posted:Trade CJ McCollum or something, you can get by with a bad PG defender if everyone else steps it up but dear god McCollum and Lillard are just ghastly together on the defensive end Well they also have no interior defenders so it's hard to evaluate just how unfeasible it is. Trading McCollum is the easiest way to solve both problems at once, but who do they actually trade him for?
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Papercut posted:Well they also have no interior defenders so it's hard to evaluate just how unfeasible it is. Trading McCollum is the easiest way to solve both problems at once, but who do they actually trade him for? noel edit: I mean to be serious, no one on that blazers roster is a good defender aside from Aminu. And literally no defense will be good when 99% of the roster is bad and the one good one is a SF playing PF.
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Tae posted:noel There's no way you trade a player proven to be as good as McCollum for Noel. That's the difficulty. McCollum is way too good to trade for just some guy but he's also not good enough to get Cousins.
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Even if Portland manages a decent trade for McCollum they are still paying almost $40 million a year for Turner and Crabbe. Nerlens for CJ seems to make a ton of sense for both teams but Noel is a huge question mark. Bogut might make sense (even though he won't stay healthy) if you can dump Turner or Crabbe. Turner is a great stealth tank guy IMO.
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crazycello posted:I know most everybody realizes that Houston is taking a ton of three's, but looking it up on basketball reference is pretty funny: I find it kind of crazy how Houston and Cleveland looked at how ridiculous Golden State shot threes last season and said "we can totally do that too" and it turns out yeah, they can.
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