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My church is weird-lookin.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 03:33 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 05:20 |
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Pellisworth posted:Merry Christmas friends! Wishing you all a happy and healthy celebration. On the 7th of January, mostly. For Armenians, it's the 6th.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 05:06 |
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System Metternich posted:what the gently caress so before they even read Plato, Homer, etc., they've already closed themselves off to potentially being radically changed by these works, which is the reason you go to a loving great books college in the first place,
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 05:48 |
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Tias posted:What are the threads feelings on the works of HP Lovecraft? I'm not a Christian but I do find a lot of spiritual inspiration in writings by horror authors like Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, and William Hope Hodgson. With Lovecraft it's especially stories like "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" where the story examines the possibility of other worlds being folded up right alongside the one we live in that I find especially intriguing. But people like Ligotti and Hodgson provide more direct material for meditation and visualisation; Ligotti has a couple stories like "The Red Tower" and "The Clown Puppet" that I dwell on and try to bring into focus as clearly as possible in my mind. I realize this won't be popular here but they provide a kind of inverted religious experience where through sustained soulful effort it becomes possible to realize that the world means less--rather than more--than it seems on its surface. Hodgson in The House on the Borderlands describes experiences of seemingly infinite abysal travel that correspond almost exactly to the experience of smoking salvia divinorum. Ultimately instead of my soul rising I realize I can forget the soul and simply recognize an affinity between myself and a hole, a rock, a sump pump, or a melting trickle in the snow.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 06:33 |
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HopperUK posted:My church is weird-lookin. Your church is rad. But something about that architecture makes me think of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 07:01 |
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i look at it and i think "fish market." maybe a cannery
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 07:09 |
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HEY GAL posted:they also hold to a niche type of epistemology where you are literally incapable of making true statements unless you already agree with them doctrinally this is what really gets me, in part because the great books curriculum at my undergrad profoundly altered my view of the world. that was where i first read plato's Symposium and aeschylus and st. augustine and bocaccio and averroes and al-ghazali and a bunch of other authors whom i've grown to love. the notion of closing yourself off from those works and just...assimilating them as some kind of varnish of culture over the same worldview you entered with is profoundly disturbing to me. on a happier note, merry Christmas everyone. may the unfathomable miracle of the Incarnation bring all of us the redemption that we need
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 08:22 |
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midnight Mass trip report: thought I would be underdressed since I didn't want to bother with wearing a suit, two guys in the pew in front of me were wearing Hawaiian shirts. So, uh, okay. I probably would have been mistaken for an usher. It was pretty awesome though; bishop got a standing ovation at the end since this is the last Mass he'll be celebrating. He proceeded in with the mitre and the crozier while incense was burning and I nearly transformed into the Pope right then and there.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 08:24 |
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I went to mass with my cousin I saw someone take the host and dip it into the blood Never thought I'd see a heresy on Christmas
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 08:52 |
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Smoking Crow posted:I went to mass with my cousin That happens on occasion here in Denmark. People are largely cultural users of the church and don't care much for the theological implications of their actions - also, our state church is lutheran and doesn't get so worked up about that sort of thing. Merry christmas! I ate pork and rice pudding till I nearly passed out, 10/10 would celebrate again.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 08:54 |
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Smoking Crow posted:I went to mass with my cousin Wait, that's not allowed?
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 08:58 |
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pidan posted:Wait, that's not allowed? It's against the rubrics, yes. Priests are allowed to do it if they are ill or some other grave reasons.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:03 |
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pidan posted:Wait, that's not allowed? After mass I walked up to my cousin and went did you see that and he goes "you mean the heresy"
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:09 |
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Bel_Canto posted:this is what really gets me, in part because the great books curriculum at my undergrad profoundly altered my view of the world. that was where i first read plato's Symposium and aeschylus and st. augustine and bocaccio and averroes and al-ghazali and a bunch of other authors whom i've grown to love. the notion of closing yourself off from those works and just...assimilating them as some kind of varnish of culture over the same worldview you entered with is profoundly disturbing to me. my favorite thing about the symposium is it was so gay people would refuse to teach it for its corrupting influence i don't really care much for great books schools in general, what with the euro and androcentrism as well as its over reliance on modern and premodern thought but at least St. John's taught the symposium. course the lack of instruction made some people think greece was more progressive than it was
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:09 |
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That's where my mass was this year. They had some great music, some in Englishh, even! Other than that, it wasn't special since the priest read a letter by the bishops or something. Didn't see any church cats, either.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:14 |
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Mo Tzu posted:my favorite thing about the symposium is it was so gay people would refuse to teach it for its corrupting influence Someone should open a Confucian school in the US
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:17 |
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Nice church! My lapsed Catholic bf just texted me a picture of him at midnight mass in his ski resort. It's a Christmas miracle Meanwhile I have never gone to midnight Christmas mass in my life because we have mass with choir singing in the morning and my mum digs that.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:26 |
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A guy from church sent me this picture of a damaged church in Syria, where they built their nativity scene in the rubble:
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:38 |
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Smoking Crow posted:Someone should open a Confucian school in the US I don't know if you're joking or not but I want this
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:39 |
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pidan posted:A guy from church sent me this picture of a damaged church in Syria, where they built their nativity scene in the rubble: Incredible.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 09:41 |
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Midnight mass way lit af, goons. 'Cept the acolytes (read: me) were rooking it hard. Few people noticed though so I probably won't catch poo poo for it next week. Blessings to you all! For the second time, the Tree of Life has been firmly planted on Earth!
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 10:28 |
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Merry Christmas thread goons.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 11:02 |
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pidan posted:Your church is rad. But something about that architecture makes me think of Jehovah's Witnesses. I should actually try to find out why it looks that way. It's lovely on the inside!
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 12:53 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/24/pope-francis-christmas-eve-vatican
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 13:13 |
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I didn't go to a Christmas Eve service because I've been fighting a really bad cold that's been going around at work. Merry Christmas, all.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 13:27 |
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Merry Christmas everyone, whenever and however you celebrate it . Get well soon, Cythereal. Normally when someone talks about how Christmas has been taken over by materialism I roll my eyes. But the point about the poor children is pretty good. I admire how consistent Pope Francis is about caring for the downtrodden and the needy. It's very life-affirming .
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 14:04 |
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Singing for the evacuated handicapped today was a wonderful Christmas experience, they were so happy!
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 14:12 |
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JcDent posted:
Needs a giant gorilla climbing up the side of it.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 15:20 |
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The whole homily is worth watching. The english translation kicks in a few seconds after Pope Francis begins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv9CA6JDwJ4&t=2572s The story of Jesus is inalienable from a preferential option for the marginalized. Many people have tried to claim divinity. But God the Son wasn't born in a palace. His parents weren't rich or powerful or even protected. He did not have paintings made of himself. For most people, Christmas Day is not a special day. It may be a normal day, or it might be a bad day. The birth of Jesus is not actually just for the people who will already have a merry Christmas. It is even more significantly for the people who are in any way challenged by or not at peace with how things are.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 15:41 |
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Merry Christmas goons!
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 15:41 |
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Mo Tzu posted:my favorite thing about the symposium is it was so gay people would refuse to teach it for its corrupting influence quote:i don't really care much for great books schools in general, what with the euro and androcentrism
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 15:45 |
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We still posting churches? Our Facebook-addicted chaplain snapped this awesome photo during the entrance into the church at Midnight Mass
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 16:11 |
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Five year old cousin this morning: "Jesus is the best gift of all! When do we get the other ones?"
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 16:42 |
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HEY GAL posted:the cure for that is to teach a wider variety of great books in the programs, not ditch the schools agreed. when columbia had complaints in the early 90s about the eurocentrism of the core curriculum, their response was to keep everything the same but to add a mandatory year of non-western stuff to the list. i basically got to do another great books seminar with the east asian studies faculty and then got to dive into indian and tibetan buddhist texts with the first westerner to ever become a tibetan monk. the man was crazy but the class was phenomenal. but reading locke in the politics seminar with an insufferable libertarian sitting next to me definitely drove me to drink
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 17:25 |
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Bel_Canto posted:agreed. when columbia had complaints in the early 90s about the eurocentrism of the core curriculum, their response was to keep everything the same but to add a mandatory year of non-western stuff to the list. i basically got to do another great books seminar with the east asian studies faculty and then got to dive into indian and tibetan buddhist texts with the first westerner to ever become a tibetan monk. the man was crazy but the class was phenomenal. but reading locke in the politics seminar with an insufferable libertarian sitting next to me definitely drove me to drink when i finished st. johns i got an MA in eastern texts from the same college, so i feel you
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 17:42 |
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Oh yeah, I did have a question. All of our parish priests and the bishop were celebrants for the Midnight Mass, except the young priest wasn't wearing a chasuble. He was the only one without one. Liturgical reason for this or did they just not have enough of them? At least the bishop was kind enough to warn us filthy heathens about genuflecting during the Nicene Creed.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 18:08 |
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System Metternich posted:Singing for the evacuated handicapped today was a wonderful Christmas experience, they were so happy! Evacuation? What happened?
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 18:22 |
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my dad posted:Evacuation? What happened? which is different from france or england, where they keep finding german ones
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 18:25 |
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HEY GAL posted:someone found an old english/american bomb and an entire city had to loving leave while they defused it drat. Beats other kinds of disaster, though. At least people still have their city intact to return to after the bomb is defused.
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# ? Dec 25, 2016 18:39 |
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Yeah, it's a really weird mental image: there's an area that's about 3km wide full of houses and streets and stores and whatnot that has a current population of 2 (the EOD experts who are still working on defusing the bomb). They started working on it almost four hours ago, hopefully the 54,000 people who had to be evacuated can go back to their houses before tomorrow. e: and just as I write this I get the news that they successfully defused it, thank God System Metternich fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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