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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

signalnoise posted:

What shipping service did it use, if you're in the US Captain Invictus?
fedex iirc

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muskets
Nov 23, 2013

ルンピカビーム!
Wonder when I'll get mine... late-backed with just some infantry sprues and the forge father hammerfist squad, for Deadzone.

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007
How do the Forces of Nature play in KoW?
I saw the megaforce and my middling interest in starting a KoW army amped up to 11. gently caress do they ever look cool as poo poo. Plus I've still got a handful of GW Lizardmen that I could use to augment the Mantic stuff.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Sir Teabag posted:

How do the Forces of Nature play in KoW?
I saw the megaforce and my middling interest in starting a KoW army amped up to 11. gently caress do they ever look cool as poo poo. Plus I've still got a handful of GW Lizardmen that I could use to augment the Mantic stuff.

They're a really flexible army, with access to just about everything including shambling - your elementals, greater elementals, and beast of nature have different ability options that let you build to an element theme, or to a particular strategy, ie regeneration. The only thing you don't get access to is any kind of artillery.

I won the starter box in a recent tournament, and the minis are really cool, it's gonna be my next KoW project after Ogres

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Dec 18, 2016

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

NTRabbit posted:

They're a really flexible army, with access to just about everything including shambling - your elementals, greater elementals, and beast of nature have different ability options that let you build to an element theme, or to a particular strategy, ie regeneration. The only thing you don't get access to is any kind of artillery.

Who needs artillery when you have flying lightning unicorns?

Evil Fiend
Apr 30, 2003

Just got my Warpath kickstarter (Enforcer, Forgefather and Veermyn battlegroups with Enforcer vehicle). I'm in Western Australia and it arrived via FedEx with tracking number. So much plastic!

Presumably the 3 veermyn doomwheel thingies I added on are coming in another wave.

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007

LordAba posted:

Who needs artillery when you have flying lightning unicorns?

:aaaaa:
I'm sold.

Lord Hypnostache
Nov 6, 2009

OATHBREAKER
I got myself KoW Historicals and I'm browsing through it. It's looking really nice, though pretty Eurocentric. I'm building a medieval Arabic army and I can't really find which army list would have the closest resemblance. Before I read the book I had assumed Ottomans would be the closest, but they don't have access to spearmen and archers (also I can't find good-looking Janissary models anywhere). Since the army would be mostly mounted with some infantry supports, it seems my choices are either
a) Huns and their armoured horse-archers who can fight in close combat
b) Mongols who actually have shock cavalry and more period accurate siege weapons

I'd prefer having access to heavy horse archers as well as heavy cavalry, but that doesn't seem possible. Which one would be more suited for my preferences?

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

There are a few odd omissions from the specialised lists, but if you talk through it with your game group you could put together a custom list. Or possibly just use the base list.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




I just looked at the Pledgehammer page for clues as to the whereabouts of my Warpath pledge, and my pledge isn't even on there, despite me having a PM receipt from March.

Anyone else have the same problem?

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
What is the shootiest army in Kings of War? People are doing a KoW campaign thing between xmas and new years, I'm strongly considering making bases to put Imp rear end figures on and rocking up there like Yo it's the Empire.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Vitamin P posted:

What is the shootiest army in Kings of War? People are doing a KoW campaign thing between xmas and new years, I'm strongly considering making bases to put Imp rear end figures on and rocking up there like Yo it's the Empire.

I think Dwarves are often considered the most able to gunline, between crossbows, rifles, rangers, sharpshooters, flame belchers, cannons, organ guns, and bombards. Plus crossbows, rifles, and the war engines only hit on a 5+, which suits Stormtrooper shooting skills :v:

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Yeah the dwarf steel behemoth would be a perfect AT-AT.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Just got a package from Mantic with my Warpath pledge.

It's... smaller than I expected, considering what I backed. Then again I think the only things that they'll be sending to me in Wave 2 is the Forge Fathers tank, but I'm not sure. Kinda not at all motivated to open it up right now though... will probably just leave it boxed until I decide for certain if I want to eBay it or not.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Still no sign of Warpath for me. The last communication I got from Mantic was at the end of November telling me to expect a shipping notification shortly. So we'll see if that still happens or if a box will just show up in the near future.

FishFood
Apr 1, 2012

Now with brine shrimp!
I got a shipping notification yesterday from FedEx and apparently the package was picked up in Nottingham yesterday and it will be here in Salt Lake City later tonight :psyduck:

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Atlas Hugged posted:

Still no sign of Warpath for me. The last communication I got from Mantic was at the end of November telling me to expect a shipping notification shortly. So we'll see if that still happens or if a box will just show up in the near future.

Same and I'm kinda bummed I won't have it by christmas

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



I still haven't seen any reports of Canadians getting their packages so I assume they fell into the ocean.

So far of the 6 kses I've backed in the last 2 years none of them have fulfilled. Including one where the reward was 'artist draws a picture'. I sure can pick timely KSes!

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
But hey my Warpath stuff not being here means I have no excuse not to start my new chariot!

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Anyone who had a GCPS battlegroup in their order apparently won't have theirs yet, because they only just received the sprues and started picking and packing them this week, which is why I don't have mine yet.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

NTRabbit posted:

Anyone who had a GCPS battlegroup in their order apparently won't have theirs yet, because they only just received the sprues and started picking and packing them this week, which is why I don't have mine yet.

I thought I was supposed to get a wave 1 order. You mean that anyone who had anything wave 2 will get it all in wave 2?

edit: I just reread the latest update. Some time in January, they say.

Whatever, I wasn't gonna paint them immediately anyway I guess. I just want to open a box of plastic.

signalnoise fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Dec 23, 2016

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




GCPS marine (I think) sprues were late, so anyone with them in their order is like wave 1.5, or the end of wave 1 regardless of destination, however you see it

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Checked out Warpath on eBay here in Germany just to see what kinda chance it would have. There are 4 listings, all from the first kickstarter, and none of which have been touched in months. Welp, guess I'll just paint 'em.

On the plus side I opened up my box and it seems complete, minus the Forge Fathers tank (which is just blacked out on the shipping label).

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom
UK backer here, Warpath arrived earlier this week - but I only went in on the rules and some of the KS-only lead minis.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FishFood posted:

I got a shipping notification yesterday from FedEx and apparently the package was picked up in Nottingham yesterday and it will be here in Salt Lake City later tonight :psyduck:

I had the same thing (only I live in Wisconsin). Don't REALLY expect it in one day. :P
Basically mine went from Nottingham to Texas and got stuck there until this morning. Though in Salt Lake City you might be lucky!

10 pounds of rats. What did I do?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




LordAba posted:

10 pounds of rats. What did I do?

Didn't take your cleaning responsibilities as seriously as you should have.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING

FishFood posted:

I got a shipping notification yesterday from FedEx and apparently the package was picked up in Nottingham yesterday and it will be here in Salt Lake City later tonight :psyduck:

They are expediting shipping by firing the packages via railgun.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Ugleb posted:

They are expediting shipping by firing the customer support team

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Hahaha yeah basically

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
I'm in Canada and got my pledge. Just the dice and markers, no rulebook yet?

FishFood
Apr 1, 2012

Now with brine shrimp!
Alright, got my wave 1 stuff and everything seems to be there. I have no loving idea how the tangle model is supposed to hold together, but it looks really cool. The three rulebooks are nice softcovers with a sleeve to hold them all. I got Forge Fathers and Veer-Myn and the I'm pretty happy with the infantry battlegroups. Tentatively excited about the Dorf tank and the tunnelers.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FishFood posted:

Alright, got my wave 1 stuff and everything seems to be there. I have no loving idea how the tangle model is supposed to hold together, but it looks really cool. The three rulebooks are nice softcovers with a sleeve to hold them all. I got Forge Fathers and Veer-Myn and the I'm pretty happy with the infantry battlegroups. Tentatively excited about the Dorf tank and the tunnelers.

Yeah, so far all the ratdudes are rad. Pretty nice new plastics. Much MUCH easier to work with than some of the old stuff... even the resins. I wouldn't call them perfect, but a+.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all

Spiderdrake posted:

I still haven't seen any reports of Canadians getting their packages so I assume they fell into the ocean.

So far of the 6 kses I've backed in the last 2 years none of them have fulfilled. Including one where the reward was 'artist draws a picture'. I sure can pick timely KSes!

I haven't heard anything about my Canadian order, though half my delivery should be GCPS stuff so by the sounds of things I'm waiting till Jan.


LordAba posted:

Yeah, so far all the ratdudes are rad. Pretty nice new plastics. Much MUCH easier to work with than some of the old stuff... even the resins. I wouldn't call them perfect, but a+.

I've just started putting together my basic troops after painting The Piper. So many arm and head options for these guys. I think there's about 10 heads on a 5 person sprue. A little surprised they didn't stuff the grenade launcher on there, but the chemical thrower looks decently like one, and I can use the wrist mounted ray gun for the thrower. Wish the legs to body fit a bit more snug, but a nice set of options.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



thiswayliesmadness posted:

I haven't heard anything about my Canadian order, though half my delivery should be GCPS stuff so by the sounds of things I'm waiting till Jan.
Mine is an ultimate tyrant enforcer/ff/plague with a huge pile of addons, and a singular sprue of GCPS to see how they turned out. Good work, single sprue.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

thiswayliesmadness posted:

I've just started putting together my basic troops after painting The Piper. So many arm and head options for these guys. I think there's about 10 heads on a 5 person sprue. A little surprised they didn't stuff the grenade launcher on there, but the chemical thrower looks decently like one, and I can use the wrist mounted ray gun for the thrower. Wish the legs to body fit a bit more snug, but a nice set of options.

Yeah, I wish the body and legs were together since the heads + weapons would be enough to make them look different. Plus I guess they weren't really thinking of Deadzone options (grenade launcher, I'm sure a couple others) when designing the sprue which is a shame.

Plus for Veer-myn it doesn't look like you can get the Maligni individually yet (they are part of the Deadzone expansion set). Maybe when the Drill and Monobikers come out...

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new-gear-new-game/product/trident-realm-of-neritica-mega-force.html
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new-gear-new-game/product/trident-realm-of-neritica-army.html

The Snorks army and mega army are up for preorder, and I think for the first time, the smaller army has a unit the mega army doesn't have - water elementals - rather than than the mega army being double a normal army plus a leader and a fancy unit.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
We were attempting to have a discussion in the Age of Sigmar thread about game mechanics and one of the criticisms of AoS that came up was that you often roll buckets of dice and very little happens. This is both tedious and frustrating. But I was quick to point out that this isn't really a problem unique to AoS and in fact is a valid criticism of Kings of War. There have been times where I've rolled 40 dice to do a few or even no damage.

This got me thinking about an "overwhelm" or "minimum damage" rule that could be implemented. I'm imagining it would work something like the below:

"If the number of attacks is greater than the defender's (Nerve?) by X amount, then the defender will take a minimum of Y damage. If the attacker scores more than Y damage, use that number instead."

Two questions come up. 1) Is the number of attacks counted from before rolling to hit or before rolling for damage? I'd assume before rolling to hit, but I can see what the argument would be for rolling for damage. 2) How do you determine what X and Y are? X could be a flat value or double or treble the nerve and Y could be based on the size of the attacking unit, like Troops doing a minimum of 2, regiments 4, hordes 7, and legions 9.

Why people wouldn't be a fan of a rule like this is because it means leaving rough terrain on your flank or rear loses a lot of effectiveness since Hindered Charges could still rack up a lot of damage. It could also be problematic for people facing armies with massed hordes of shooters. Regiments and Troops would become unused since they could almost be routed automatically.

Do any other games do minimum damage? Battletech comes to mind, but that's not so much minimum damage as it is a set amount for each weapon.

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Electric Hobo
Oct 22, 2008


Grimey Drawer

NTRabbit posted:

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new-gear-new-game/product/trident-realm-of-neritica-mega-force.html
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new-gear-new-game/product/trident-realm-of-neritica-army.html

The Snorks army and mega army are up for preorder, and I think for the first time, the smaller army has a unit the mega army doesn't have - water elementals - rather than than the mega army being double a normal army plus a leader and a fancy unit.
That is one of the blandest colorschemes I've ever seen. Who the hell decides that that's great for showing off the great new models.

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