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Data Graham posted:Dom-jot is like bumper pool TO THE DEATH Tbf I don't think stabbing the winner through the heart is in the official dom-jot rulebook
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Tbf I don't think stabbing the winner through the heart is in the official dom-jot rulebook
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Tbf I don't think stabbing the winner through the heart is in the official dom-jot rulebook It's a popular house rule though, like punching your friend when they buy one of each color property in Monopoly
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Star Man posted:I totes want a tongo set. I wish there was more of subtle merchandise like a set of standard playing cards shaped and styled like Tongo cards. Maybe Quark's Bar* branded on the back. So you can use them in real life playing real card games! And also so people who don't recognise it don't know my shame. * Free refills! Limit 1 per customer MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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MikeJF posted:I wish there was more of subtle merchandise like a set of standard playing cards shaped and styled like Tongo cards. Maybe Quark's Bar* branded on the back. You can get round playing cards. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Round-Novelty-Playing-complete-Plastic/dp/B0089FV5DE You can even get your own custom printed: http://www.makeplayingcards.com/design/custom-rounded-card-decks.html Get yourself a kickstarter going.
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Duckbag posted:Yeah, the "two things familiar, one thing alien" trope is ridiculous, but it's just so established in Trek at this point that I can't help but love it. I like to think of it as the Earthican equivalent of a lot of current "world" history where they do all the classic eurocentrism, but add in a little section at the end of the chapter about a minority group or nonwestern culture as a nod to multiculturalism. You know, like how a discussion of WWI might be 90% about Europeans fighting in Europe, but have a little fig leaf at the end about colonial troops or the Asian and African theaters. It's actually a brilliant compromise between doing only one or all future-history references, and having half your dumbass audience scratching their heads and wondering if they missed something when they were late getting back from the bathroom during commercial break ("who's this Colonel Green they're talking about??"), and doing nothing but 20th century references and having nerds cleverly point out how history apparently ended in the 20th century. The first two examples set a pattern ("oh okay we're talking about history") and then the third example is the concession that the setting is ostensibly in the future.
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MikeJF posted:I wish there was more of subtle merchandise like a set of standard playing cards shaped and styled like Tongo cards. Maybe Quark's Bar* branded on the back. Nick Meyer tells a story about how he wanted a Starfleet blanket like the ones in Star Trek 6 (but with the design actually part of the blanket and not just stenciled on) and it was a gigantic pain in the rear end to get Paramount merchandising to go along with making any. Eventually he had to agree to do it as a super-special ~*limited collectors' run*~ and had to sign authenticity certificates for every drat one or something. But he got his Starfleet blanket.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Nick Meyer tells a story about how he wanted a Starfleet blanket like the ones in Star Trek 6 (but with the design actually part of the blanket and not just stenciled on) and it was a gigantic pain in the rear end to get Paramount merchandising to go along with making any. Eventually he had to agree to do it as a super-special ~*limited collectors' run*~ and had to sign authenticity certificates for every drat one or something. "Starfleet blanket? Easy! We just added STAR TREK(TM) over the top in huge letters and the paramount contact info along the bottom! Gotta brand, after all, otherwise what's the point?  "
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I'm trying to find the episode where a blooper happens. I remember two characters in a bedroom, and a clearly visible hand behind the bed hands one of the characters (or is handed to) a glass of wine or something. I think this was in an early episode of TNG.
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DrSunshine posted:I'm trying to find the episode where a blooper happens. I remember two characters in a bedroom, and a clearly visible hand behind the bed hands one of the characters (or is handed to) a glass of wine or something. I think this was in an early episode of TNG. Angel One. Mistress Beatta puts her wine glass down as if there's a table there, but she's actually putting it in a stage hand's hand. It accidentally ended up just barely in frame.  They fixed it in the re-master by cropping the scene slightly. Source: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/angelone.htm
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Powered Descent posted:Angel One. Mistress Beatta puts her wine glass down as if there's a table there, but she's actually putting it in a stage hand's hand. It accidentally ended up just barely in frame. Ex Astris Scientia posted:The server rejects the referring URL, because of repeated harrassment, spamming or other violations of the EAS terms of service They send all links from SA to that 403 page, lol, what did Goons do to EAS?
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I hit f5 and the problem went away. Or maybe I clicked the url bar and hit enter. I dunno, but it wasn't an issue.
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FuturePastNow posted:They send all links from SA to that 403 page, lol, what did Goons do to EAS? I think somebody image leeched him once and he turned into a giant baby about it.
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Powered Descent posted:Angel One. Mistress Beatta puts her wine glass down as if there's a table there, but she's actually putting it in a stage hand's hand. It accidentally ended up just barely in frame. TNG season 1 had some seriously dodgy directing. There also was the guy who cast all black people for Code of Honor and the episode (still not sure which one) where people kept wandering through the shots. Also, lots of horrible lighting/sound failures, conspicuous pauses between actors' lines, and way too many spandex crotch buldges. I'm pretty bad at spotting out and out bloopers though. Lots of Memory Alpha pages for episodes I've seen repeatedly list continuity errors and set/prop problems I just never noticed. There's even a couple episodes where you can actually see stage hands in the frame (not just their hands) and, even though they're in full view, I just never caught them.
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Duckbag posted:TNG season 1 had some seriously dodgy directing. Don't forget the writer-producer who harassed Gates McFadden until she quit.
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Duckbag posted:TNG season 1 had some seriously dodgy directing. There also was the guy who cast all black people for Code of Honor and the episode (still not sure which one) where people kept wandering through the shots. Also, lots of horrible lighting/sound failures, conspicuous pauses between actors' lines, and way too many spandex crotch buldges. I'm pretty bad at spotting out and out bloopers though. Lots of Memory Alpha pages for episodes I've seen repeatedly list continuity errors and set/prop problems I just never noticed. There's even a couple episodes where you can actually see stage hands in the frame (not just their hands) and, even though they're in full view, I just never caught them. Don't forget putting the black cardboard on the back of the bridge set to block the stage lights. 
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Powered Descent posted:Angel One. Mistress Beatta puts her wine glass down as if there's a table there, but she's actually putting it in a stage hand's hand. It accidentally ended up just barely in frame. Riker visits a femdom empire and bangs the poo poo out of their president. The most Riker episode.
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macnbc posted:Don't forget putting the black cardboard on the back of the bridge set to block the stage lights. I think that was more of a season 2 thing. EDIT: oop, no, found it in season 1 too.
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macnbc posted:Don't forget putting the black cardboard on the back of the bridge set to block the stage lights. The future's so bright I gotta wear shades  *Every actor in this scene now has cateracts
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Watching '...Nor the Battle to the Strong' and I'm loving Jake's asymmetrical jacket.
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Just got to the DS9 section of The Fifty Year Mission book. As a lapsed comic book reader, it's funny how one of the director tries to justify the series as Batman to TNG's Superman. I mean, I kinda see it, but wouldn't a more accurate analogy be TNG's Spider-Man to DS9's Venom/Carnage?
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At no point did the Sisko threaten to eat anyone's brains. Can you imagine how much fun Avery Brooks would have had? We missed out.
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I've never watched TOS before and just finished a TNG run-through (grew up with it) so I've started doing a run-through of it and I've only seen 2 episodes so far. (The man trap and Charlie X) How did this show catch on with these as the first 2 episodes? I hear the next one is supposed to be pretty good but I don't know if I'll be able to make it through the show. It's so different from TNG which I started with as a kid. I've seen all of the movies (and the new reboot movies) and liked them, love TNG and Voyager and can enjoy what I've seen of DS9 and Enterprise. TOS get better than the first 2, right? GutBomb fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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I straight up forgot how poo poo season 1 TNG is from nearly every angle until my dad fell sleep on the couch after Chromecasting Netflix and it just kept churning out lovely episodes. Somehow season 1 could be more colorful and yet devoid of all fruitful feeling.
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Mister Adequate posted:Riker visits a femdom empire and bangs the poo poo out of their president. The most Riker episode. He didn't even have the beard yet either! If he had they never would have let him leave the planet. 
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GutBomb posted:I've never watched TOS before and just finished a TNG run-through (grew up with it) so I've started doing a run-through of it and I've only seen 2 episodes so far. (The man trap and Charlie X) Charlie X is a bit poo poo but Man Trap is a solid Trek episode, albeit before they had a great idea of what they wanted the series to be. If you don't like Season 1 of TOS I basically have no idea what drew you to Trek to begin with, it's pretty much as good as the entire franchise gets. If you're really struggling with the early stuff the classic ones in season 1 are Balance of Terror, Galileo Seven, Squire of Gothos, Arena, Space Seed, Devil in the Dark, and City on the Edge of Forever. There's definitely some sleepers in there though. And The Alternative Factor. I'd say watch them all. Except The Alternative Factor.
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grilldos posted:I straight up forgot how poo poo season 1 TNG is from nearly every angle until my dad fell sleep on the couch after Chromecasting Netflix and it just kept churning out lovely episodes. Somehow season 1 could be more colorful and yet devoid of all fruitful feeling. You'll get to the better stuff eventually. And then you'll see "Balance of Terror" and be knocked out of your god drat seat.
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macnbc posted:Don't forget putting the black cardboard on the back of the bridge set to block the stage lights. They still missed a spot. There's the silhouette of some guy's head behind the Zakdorn's shoulder. Also, yeah, the horrific soap opera overlighting is one reason early TNG looks so bland and fuzzy. GutBomb posted:I've never watched TOS before and just finished a TNG run-through (grew up with it) so I've started doing a run-through of it and I've only seen 2 episodes so far. (The man trap and Charlie X) Man Trap is OK, but a bit stiff. I think the bigger issue is that so, so many Trek episodes have done the "weird killer alien gets loose on the ship" thing since, and most of them are better. Really, none of the first few episodes are great intros to Trek. Early on, the emphasis was too heavy on the weird aliens, space magic, and humanist wankery and they hadn't figured out how to mesh that with solid character drama yet. The first pilot (The Cage, which it seems like you rightly skipped) probably got rejected because the characters barely had personalities and the second pilot (Where No Man Has Gone Before) leans too hard into the other direction with lots of Shatnerian ACT-ing and not enough grounded characterization. Then you get a creature feature and a weird glut of godlike alien episodes and lots of ludicrously dated and gimmicky "science" fiction (Good and Evil Kirk! Planet of Children!) and it's sort of hard to figure out what the show is really trying to be. It's fascinating to watch how the show evolved over time and a few of those episodes do hold up (if you're in the right frame of mind), but if you just want to get to the good stuff, I recommend skipping to episode 10, "The Corbomite Maneuver," and going from there. Corbomite has the first (sort of) space battle, good plot tension and character drama, and a weird/great twist ending. Most importantly, it's the first episode that really nailed the Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic that became the heart and soul of the show and has lots of classic lines (one of which was lifted wholesale for Beyond). There's a really solid string of episodes afterward too, so it makes a pretty good intro to the series.
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TNG's lighting was overlit in part due to contemporary methods, but also for ease of filming. If every shot from every angle is devoid of shadows, blocking is so much easier. Plus you can rest assured you got good exposure on the film stock. Now, because of digital formats, tv can afford to be more filmic with lighting. Like, imagine you have 8 days to film an episode and you have no idea if your shots turned out until tomorrow. You would probably do everything possible to ensure you stayed on schedule, even if it made the end product a little flat.
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Duckbag posted:They still missed a spot. There's the silhouette of some guy's head behind the Zakdorn's shoulder. Also, yeah, the horrific soap opera overlighting is one reason early TNG looks so bland and fuzzy. Huh, didn't they actually overnight more later? Early TNG was more contrasting, whereas later everything was soft and lit. I think that was more a matter of figuring out decent ways to flood the set with light as time went on, though.
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skasion posted:I'd say watch them all. Except The Alternative Factor. Glad to know I'm not alone in hating this one. Seemed to go on forever.
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Yeah, it's widely regarded as one of the worst episodes of the series, as you can see here. It's confusing, slow, and uninteresting. The actor who was supposed to play the Character Of The Week couldn't even bother to show up and they had to recruit someone else at the last minute.
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Duckbag posted:They still missed a spot. There's the silhouette of some guy's head behind the Zakdorn's shoulder. Also, yeah, the horrific soap opera overlighting is one reason early TNG looks so bland and fuzzy. It's important to judge the early show in context though, not from the hindsight of modern tv storytelling. What seems like "dated and gimmicky" scifi stuff now was actually groundbreaking and very different at the time. Even if some of the plot tropes were well trod in the pulp magazines and novels of the previous 30 years, the vast mainstream of America's tv audience hadn't been exposed to them. The public was used to seeing stuff like "Voyage To The Bottom of the Sea", "Time Tunnel," and "My Favorite Martian." and "Lost in Space." There were also high concept anthologies that had scifi episodes like "Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits." But there was nothing like Star Trek, which was serious adult drama in space in a continuous universe.
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Oh man. Martok Changeling learned the hard way that it's not a good idea to break stealth in a stealth mission frivolously. Its like in XCOM (the old one) where you'd position half your squad outside the alien spaceship for 15 turns so they start coming out wondering where you are. blamblamblamblam
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