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Bimmi posted:This is all going to end in tears, isn't it. Series Composition: Okada Mari
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Tamba posted:Series Composition: Okada "
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Dec 25, 2016 18:14
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I don't envy Orga the choices he has to make here. Things being what they are, trying to tell Mika not to fight anymore would probably be crueler than having him continue to fight. That said, I think the other characters are misunderstanding the Orga/Mika power dynamic. Orga is nominally in charge and Mika will go along with almost anything Orga says, but Mika has proven that he reserves the right to completely ignore or veto any decision that Orga makes that he doesn't agree with; that's how Mika ended up in this situation to begin with, after all.
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Dec 25, 2016 18:25
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Mikazuki has such an intimate relationship with barbatos. Setsuna would be jealous.
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Dec 25, 2016 18:54
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Two clear signs that everything is seriously going to poo poo - Atra losing her cool and jumping on the 'horrifyingly bad decisions' bandwagon, and Mikazuki actually raising his voice in a fight. Seriously, that little bit during the Hashmal battle was creepy as hell.
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Dec 25, 2016 19:10
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Kanos posted:I don't envy Orga the choices he has to make here. Things being what they are, trying to tell Mika not to fight anymore would probably be crueler than having him continue to fight. I think the old man understands.
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Dec 25, 2016 19:18
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I'm behind and catching up and: oh Aston 
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Dec 25, 2016 19:49
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Darth Walrus posted:Two clear signs that everything is seriously going to poo poo - Atra losing her cool and jumping on the 'horrifyingly bad decisions' bandwagon, and Mikazuki actually raising his voice in a fight. Seriously, that little bit during the Hashmal battle was creepy as hell. Yeah, Mika actually getting riled up was loving terrifying, and I didn't understand why at first. He hasn't really been like that at all for the entire show so far, so it really stood out.
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Dec 25, 2016 19:55
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Shinjobi posted:Yeah, Mika actually getting riled up was loving terrifying, and I didn't understand why at first. He hasn't really been like that at all for the entire show so far, so it really stood out. Mika also got hosed up in a way we haven't seen in his fights before. Previously, when a fight ends he's still been standing, but this time, a Spinner Rodi could have dropped him if it stumbled past the other suits on site. Impaled, an arm missing, armor totaled... Barbatos was almost in as bad a shape as Mika when the mobile armor dropped.
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Dec 25, 2016 20:23
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It's kind of hosed up that they can't be bothered to get Mika a damned wheelchair.
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Dec 25, 2016 20:45
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Kanos posted:It's kind of hosed up that they can't be bothered to get Mika a damned wheelchair. Do you think they have one?
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Dec 25, 2016 20:47
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Kanos posted:It's kind of hosed up that they can't be bothered to get Mika a damned wheelchair. But its way funnier having Hush be his manservant and be completely blase about it.
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Dec 25, 2016 21:00
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I was hoping Hush and Mika would be in a Master Blaster situation.
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Dec 25, 2016 21:05
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Tae posted:Do you think they have one? I'm pretty sure that Yukinojo can MacGuyver together a wheelchair with a small motor even if the entire planet of Mars somehow doesn't have a single wheelchair available for purchase. These are the technicians that managed to restore a 300 year old Gundam frame to functionality with no resources and then kept it running for half a season by bolting random parts of the mobile suits it killed to it, after all.
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Dec 25, 2016 21:11
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Atra yelling at Kudelia and Mika being mancarried were both comedy moments guys.
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Dec 25, 2016 23:07
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Ka0 posted:Atra yelling at Kudelia and Mika being mancarried were both comedy moments guys. Eh, I'd say they were half comedy, half 'oh jesus this is hosed up guys'. You know, a bit of bathos to underline how outlandish the situation currently is.
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Dec 25, 2016 23:12
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Mika not being able to stand somehow manages to make an already small person seem even smaller.
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Dec 26, 2016 01:58
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Kanos posted:It's kind of hosed up that they can't be bothered to get Mika a damned wheelchair. I bet they do but Mika just lets Hush carry him cause it's faster and easier.
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Dec 26, 2016 05:11
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Darth Walrus posted:Eh, I'd say they were half comedy, half 'oh jesus this is hosed up guys'. You know, a bit of bathos to underline how outlandish the situation currently is. Yeah, I think I reacted pretty strongly because I've had experience with seeing people lose body function like that despite remaining mentally intact so my gut response to the scene was "holy poo poo at least give him some agency and dignity back". The Hush and Atra/Kudelia scenes were pretty clearly intended for chuckles at least on some levels, especially how Hush is so completely blase about it to the point where Atra mentions that Mika periodically just goes missing, like he calls Hush and says "yeah we're going to wander the base as man and potato bag".
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Dec 26, 2016 05:56
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"well I can't be a farmer anymore, so I'll just fight until I loving die" loving hell this show can be bleak. Great episode though. It's just shows how messed up Mika is if he's still not having any reservations about getting back in the gundam.
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Dec 26, 2016 06:24
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paragon1 posted:Mika not being able to stand somehow manages to make an already small person seem even smaller. Yeah I noticed that too, especially when he was talking to Orga and had to practically break his neck to look up at him; it added an extra layer of 'wrong' and really made him look like the child he's supposed to be. IBO is so good at making you feel uncomfortable about things you should be uncomfortable about. Overlord K posted:I bet they do but Mika just lets Hush carry him cause it's faster and easier. If I were in his position I'd do the same, if you can't travel in barbatos might as well use the hushpuppy.
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Dec 26, 2016 06:37
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One other thing is that up until now Mika has been the executioner for whoever Orga needs murked. As of now we wont see any more scenes of Mika shooting dudes straight in the head, and instead his kill count will be solely from combat kills.
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Dec 26, 2016 07:50
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He's still got one arm.
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So bit of an interesting note that my more obsessive friend brought up with me today. Gundam eye color in this series tends to match the use/level of use of AV by the pilot: The Guison and Kimaris both have yellow eyes, as do all of the Graze variants seen throughout the first season, and none of those have an AV system installed. When the Guison is upgraded it now has the same green eyes as the Barbatos, the Asteroth, and the newest Ryusei Go (Flauros). The Garbage Can Ein had a red eye when it got serious and opened its visor, unlike the yellow eye of your typical graze, which would match what we saw from Barbatos when it similarly went all out. Likely just a cute artistic touch at best, since the simplest answer is that the Guison still had the green eyes under the visor they'd jammed over it, and that the Kimaris had simply been remodeled, but it is a pretty nifty touch all the same. It also lends a little credence to the idea of Einborg as the purple eyes on the Vidar are fairly unique. Edit: Also, while going back through the first season, I have to reiterate how satisfying it is to see Ein just get stabbed through the cockpit like a bitch in the middle of his crazed rant. God he is such a trash character. Caros fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Dec 26, 2016 08:07
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Caros posted:Edit: Also, while going back through the first season, I have to reiterate how satisfying it is to see Ein just get stabbed through the cockpit like a bitch in the middle of his crazed rant. God he is such a trash character. I love the dub's Ein because he really nails being an unhinged sack of crazy once he's Einborg'd.
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Dec 26, 2016 08:21
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So, I gave up on watching the second season after a friend of mine told me it has the same flaws as S1-Naze being treated as the Second loving Coming,the villains being lovely and unthreatening while the "heroes" barely break a sweat,etc. But,I've been thinking lately-should I give it a shot,or was my friend right?
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Dec 26, 2016 08:51
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VolticSurge posted:So, I gave up on watching the second season after a friend of mine told me it has the same flaws as S1-Naze being treated as the Second loving Coming,the villains being lovely and unthreatening while the "heroes" barely break a sweat,etc. But,I've been thinking lately-should I give it a shot,or was my friend right?
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Dec 26, 2016 09:11
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The thing about the villains is twofold. First, the main antagonists are more dangerous, either through competence or weapons-grade incompetence, and do make Tekkadan bleed. Second, they're not the true villains, although they do bad things. This season is about exploring the darker aspects of Tekkadan that were touched upon in the first season. They're now allied with the big bad, and it's wearing them down and bringing their worst, most culty elements to the fore as they slowly burn through members, alternative options, and their own humanity. Naze's still a good guy, but he's being indirectly criticised through Orga, and has done one very foolish thing that will probably be his downfall. The tension doesn't come from the antagonists winning - at that point, that might be a small, weird kind of mercy. It comes from what they're pushing Tekkadan to, and from whether they'll be able to stop what they've awoken.
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Ka0 posted:Atra yelling at Kudelia and Mika being mancarried were both comedy moments guys. They're only comedy moments on the surface. Taken at face value, yeah, it's funny, but the intent behind the scenes are really depressing and just highlight how hosed Mika is. Atra is painfully aware that they're going to lose Mika and it either hasn't occurred to her or she believes she is incapable of stopping him. So she's thinking ahead to how she can keep at least a part of Mika around and to her, the only answer she can think of is a baby to carry his legacy. It's interesting that she asked Kudelia instead of, uh, offering herself. Hush carrying Mika around just highlights how helpless he is outside of barbatos and how much he's lost because of his piloting. Before he could get around and there was still hope of being a farmer, but now? And everyone knows it's only going to get worse. A lot of characters, Mika included, seem to have accepted that he is going to die fighting and that it'll probably be soon, and no one is really doing anything to try to change his fate. I doubt they could as long as Mika believes it's the only way for him to move forward, but it would be nice for someone to at least try. The most likely candidate is Kudelia, but I think if Orga pulled back on his ambitions (hahahahaha mr. king of mars or bust) it would give Mika the breathing room to consider that it's ok for him to live.
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Adel posted:They're only comedy moments on the surface. Taken at face value, yeah, it's funny, but the intent behind the scenes are really depressing and just highlight how hosed Mika is. I don't think Atra's given up on Mika, I think she's trying to baby-trap him. You know, counting on a new kid to bring some joy and stability into his life and a responsibility he can't run away from. It's a horrible idea, but a pretty common desperation move for people in failing relationships. You know, just to add a little realism to all this grimness.
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Dec 26, 2016 19:06
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Apparently Ride has some uh, "interesting" politics
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I'm not surprised, just disappointed.VolticSurge posted:So, I gave up on watching the second season after a friend of mine told me it has the same flaws as S1-Naze being treated as the Second loving Coming,the villains being lovely and unthreatening while the "heroes" barely break a sweat,etc. But,I've been thinking lately-should I give it a shot,or was my friend right? Your friend was wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX-pQAZDXI0 Walk Hush, walk! Enter the room!
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Guy Goodbody posted:Apparently Ride has some uh, "interesting" politics I thought it was a play on words on his name and certain thunder god but the imagery is still unfortunate.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I thought it was a play on words on his name and certain thunder god but the imagery is still unfortunate. 'Raiden' is the Japanese word for lightning. The guy from Mortal Kombat just has a very... uhh... descriptive name.
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Dec 27, 2016 02:57
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VolticSurge posted:So, I gave up on watching the second season after a friend of mine told me it has the same flaws as S1-Naze being treated as the Second loving Coming,the villains being lovely and unthreatening while the "heroes" barely break a sweat,etc. Your friend's a huge idiot.
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Darth Walrus posted:'Raiden' is the Japanese word for lightning. The guy from Mortal Kombat just has a very... uhh... descriptive name. I'm pretty sure raijin has like 5 loving names and one of them is raiden.
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Dec 27, 2016 03:06
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I'm pretty sure raijin has like 5 loving names and one of them is raiden. Kind of, but only in that it literally translates as Lord Lightning. It's a job description more than his actual name.
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Dec 27, 2016 03:13
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Your friend's a huge idiot. Though if you didn't like the first season then the second probably won't do it for you either
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Setting the ground work for McGillis's Neo Gjallahorn imagery. Looks rad.
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