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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Also only Hillary could have lost in 2016 vs Trump. Literally anyone else would have won. lincoln chafee
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Accretionist posted:Trump would've had trouble playing the strongman to Jim "Killed A Man" Webb he had trouble playing the strongman to hillary "grey sludge" clinton remember the 2nd or 3rd debate where he was trying to intimidate her by walking around and loving a chair
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Nonsense posted:roll that beautiful bean footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q1jJ0DsGSo
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The Muppets On PCP posted:lincoln chafee Lincoln Chafee had a campaign message - 'Metric good' - which automatically makes him better than Hillary 'Trump Bad' Clinton. But seriously how can someone not think access to legal representation isn't a key component of reducing police abuse? Cops target minorities because theyre pretty sure they can get away with it, and frequently theyre proven right when the kid they hassle has no way to afford a decent lawyer and is forced into taking some lovely plea bargain. If everyone had better access to competent representation cops would get away with harassment less often, which would make them less likely to target minorities in the first place. Making people less racist is a generational project with uncertain outcomes. Tuning up the system to give racists less opportunity to exercise racism without penalty is a real and achievable goal within our lifetimes. The ACLU doesn't make progress by screaming at people to be less racist. They offer competent pro bono legal representation to victims of racism in order to generate case law and create real penalties for discriminatory behavior.
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Dec 26, 2016 09:12
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Concerned Citizen posted:webb would have won
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i do not understand the distinction being made between social and economic justice. the examples of white-on-black racial discrimination which cannot be solved through progressive taxation and redistribution are examples of people using the free market and their individual liberties to protect their wealth and exploit others. you won't have to worry about the free market and individual liberty after the revolution!
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Also only Hillary could have lost in 2016 vs Trump. Literally anyone else would have won. The fact that Sanders is either an agnostic or an atheist gives me pause. Atheists are haaaated in this country. That's not to diminish how bad of a candidate Clinton was for this election.
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https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/813127061011308545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Not a Step posted:Lincoln Chafee had a campaign message - 'Metric good' - which automatically makes him better than Hillary 'Trump Bad' Clinton. well we were going there at roughly the slowest pace imaginable but then trump happened and welp time to start over see you all in another couple millenia
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Majorian posted:The fact that Sanders is either an agnostic or an atheist gives me pause. Atheists are haaaated in this country. Sanders is not an out-and-proud atheist any more than Trump was. He would have bullshitted his way through it and nobody who might vote (D) would care.
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it's not about individually racist cops. there are loads of non-racist cops, but they all serve the systemic domination of nonwhites. the institution of policing is racist to the bone. time to start over.
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Bolton Hairy-Bore posted:it's not about individually racist cops. there are loads of non-racist cops, but they all serve the systemic domination of nonwhites. the police aren't particularly keen on this idea, unfortunately
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Dec 26, 2016 15:07
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Wow that sounds really hosed up, can you cite the case you are talking about? in which powercrazy unironically makes the argument that the justice system isn't racist, wow.
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Concerned Citizen posted:in which powercrazy unironically makes the argument that the justice system isn't racist, wow. ""socialist" who cannot talk about anything regarding race without jamming his boot straight in his god drat mouth" is kind of his deal yes
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Yinlock posted:""socialist" who cannot talk about anything regarding race without jamming his boot straight in his god drat mouth" is kind of his deal yes uh for that to be true hed have to regret his terrible opinions, which he doesnt. hes earned a grudging respect from me for his commitment to them
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Al! posted:uh for that to be true hed have to regret his terrible opinions, which he doesnt. hes earned a grudging respect from me for his commitment to them well yes then he proceeds to chew on and eat the boot while talking about how insanely good it is there's something admirable about that kind of dedication i'll admit
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Yinlock posted:the police aren't particularly keen on this idea, unfortunately yeah, the struggle for police abolition has a variety of challenges to overcome. probably the hardest is the 1 million cops.
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lmao Washington Post had a negative review of the show Incorporated because it depicts a dystopian future in which corporations run everything https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...3976_story.html quote:Taken with a post-Nov. 8 tilt, “Incorporated” feels like a needless dig at the wrong target. When a boisterously aggressive fan of the president-elect insulted and berated a Delta Air Lines plane full of passengers last week, using foul language and epithets, the authority that stepped in and stood for common values and civility was the airline itself, which has said it has banned the passenger for life. Imagine a world where corporations are the ones who stand up to bullies and champion human rights. The sooner someone can come up with a futuristic TV show about that, the better.
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etalian posted:lmao Washington Post had a negative review of the show Incorporated because it depicts a dystopian future in which corporations run everything hank stuever is always v. upset that conservatives are not treated fairly by tv and movies. i don't even think he's conservative, i think he just has a misguided sense of fairness.
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The Kingfish posted:Sanders is not an out-and-proud atheist any more than Trump was. He would have bullshitted his way through it and nobody who might vote (D) would care. Sanders could have pointed out he agrees with the Pope on every issue except 2 and that Trump agrees with the Pope on only 2 issues. In some ways, Sanders is a social Catholic.
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etalian posted:lmao Washington Post had a negative review of the show Incorporated because it depicts a dystopian future in which corporations run everything thats cool, im a cyberpunk dystopia accelerationist too
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tadashi posted:Sanders could have pointed out he agrees with the Pope on every issue except 2 and that Trump agrees with the Pope on only 2 issues. In some ways, Sanders is a social Catholic. Bernie Sanders is Jewish. That's what makes all the grumbling about how he stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back offensive.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Bernie Sanders is Jewish. That's what makes all the grumbling about how he stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back offensive. It's funny how bad dems are still angry over him even though he endorsed Hillary and campaigned for her. Is it Bernie's fault that she ran a GE campaign that had a laundry list of strategic errors such as overlooking midwest states?
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etalian posted:Is it Bernie's fault that she ran a GE campaign that had a laundry list of strategic errors such as overlooking midwest states? Yes. 
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Yinlock posted:what if we use both brushes
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Clinton did lose, O'Malley would have lost more, Chafee would have lost most, Webb would have barely won, Sanders would have won a lot, that is all thank you for listening Also Bernie's failure to communicate with minorities is largely overblown, his problem was that old people hate him and early voters didn't know who or what he was because he started campaigning too late and those demographics had a disproportionate representation in early primaries. Also Southerners are just plain more conservative than Northerners regardless of race. He could overcome these issues by campaigning more in states he needed to win and did not campaign enough in the South, but his campaign did not have an intrinsic white slant and especially did not represent an insidious undercurrent of white supremacy like hillarymen have been insinuating.
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pls give me examples and evidence of sanders being bad on social issues
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loquacius posted:Clinton did lose, O'Malley would have lost more, Chafee would have lost most, Webb would have barely won, Sanders would have won a lot, that is all thank you for listening Also it's not like the dems even have a chance in deep south states in a GE fight. Bernie could easily have won by holding onto Midwest states, NE and west coast.
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lmao if Bernie had won the primary but lost the general election somehow can you even imagine the toldyouso-ist ravings from the clinton camp
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etalian posted:It's funny how bad dems are still angry over him even though he endorsed Hillary and campaigned for her. OWLS! posted:Yes.
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crazy cloud posted:lmao if Bernie had won the primary but lost the general election somehow can you even imagine the toldyouso-ist ravings from the clinton camp They're already being insufferably smug in response to THEIR candidate losing
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crazy cloud posted:lmao if Bernie had won the primary but lost the general election somehow can you even imagine the toldyouso-ist ravings from the clinton camp Yes but only because I didn't drink hard enough during the primaries and can remember their ravings from then
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Pollyanna posted:pls give me examples and evidence of sanders being bad on social issues They'll probably say the guns thing, they certainly hammered on that as best they could
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crazy cloud posted:lmao if Bernie had won the primary but lost the general election somehow can you even imagine the toldyouso-ist ravings from the clinton camp Well on the bright side we can laugh at Hill Folk trying to explain away her losing record for contested elections or how she lost despite having double the campaign budget of Trump.
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loquacius posted:They'll probably say the guns thing, they certainly hammered on that as best they could bernie-winging, bitter-clinging, proud clingers of our guns, and our primary salt.
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Like Hillary would have ever ended up getting gun control legislation through Congress I legit think that if Obama couldn't do that right after Sandy Hook, no one could. You'd need a Dem supermajority for that poo poo.
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