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Jose posted:this seems as good a thread as any. i only read ToG, god of highschool, gamer and noblesse. any other webtoons worth reading. only want action really and preferably something on wednesday/thursday for when i'm having a poo poo at work Honestly, I picked up sidekicks (Wednesday) and ended up liking it a lot. It's not as inspiring as the webtoons you listed but it's good. I think everyone should be reading Newman and Dr. Frost, but I don't know what days those are out.
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Jose posted:this seems as good a thread as any. i only read ToG, god of highschool, gamer and noblesse. any other webtoons worth reading. only want action really and preferably something on wednesday/thursday for when i'm having a poo poo at work Cheese in the Trap is an interesting drama/romance thing I generally don't like that genre much.
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Bastard is quality, like everything that author pair does. Probably kind of hard to find their old works translated anywhere since for whatever reason webtoons C&D'd a lot of them without actually putting up their own translations. Hanged Doll had a really bad translation anyway, but Melo Holic was good in a way I wouldn't even want to say much on since it's best experienced completely blind. City of Dead Sorcerer is probably the closest in genre to what you read and would be one to definitely look up. Superior Day is a nice, short read that's loosely connected to Hanged Doll but worth it even if you can find/stand its translation but not the other.
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Dec 19, 2016 23:45
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Jose posted:seems a bit silly to give the keys to the higher floors to your secret children It's part of the key, meaning someone has to go collect all the rings and the 13 weapons to advance past Jahad. Guy's counting on his sons and adopted daughters to be strong enough to keep that from happening.
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Dec 19, 2016 23:56
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i'm glad that SIU has made the floors past the current rankers an actual thing i wonder what made jahad stop and why he is the leader of the 10 families tbh
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Dec 20, 2016 00:01
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Jose posted:this seems as good a thread as any. i only read ToG, god of highschool, gamer and noblesse. any other webtoons worth reading. only want action really and preferably something on wednesday/thursday for when i'm having a poo poo at work Magician is really good
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Dec 20, 2016 00:15
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nimby posted:It's part of the key, meaning someone has to go collect all the rings and the 13 weapons to advance past Jahad. Guy's counting on his sons and adopted daughters to be strong enough to keep that from happening. I suspect it's more likely in the hopes that someone will kill his sons. Especially given that his sons are trying to kill him and the whole red light district moniker I would guess they're a source of shame for him.
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Dec 20, 2016 00:17
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Jahad is Magi's Sinbad to Alibaba's Baam.
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Jose posted:i'm glad that SIU has made the floors past the current rankers an actual thing I feel like that reason and why he's the leader are both revealed in that last chapter. He's a Baam-like character who naturally attracted these guys to him, only instead of wanting power to make the people he loved happy and remain close to them, he wanted power to make the people he loved happy by ruling over them from a lofty godlike position. Jahad stopped where he did because he felt that he could finally achieve that goal. I think that like Baam, his goal was never about climbing to the top, just to a point where he could do what he set out to do. I think it's pretty amusing that had Rachel only brought Baam along with her and used him like she uses everybody, he would be perfectly willing to climb with her and help her achieve her dream, but nope.
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I would have to guess that she actually feels guilty for using him, is why she wouldn't consider bringing him along to use more frequently. She'd rather just erase him or preferably have something else erase him so she doesn't have to think about it. To expand on that, she seems to really want to be the hero or the 'good guy'. Having a very clearly good guy constantly reminding her that she's probably not would eat away at that. All of the powerful people she tends to use are clear villains. Going to count wangnan in with that too, even, given his very first impressive feat was tricking the admin and then lying to Viole. He also wanted to use Viole/Baam for his own goals which at least makes him similar to her. Decus fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Dec 20, 2016 20:48
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she is very scared of him for reasons we don't know aside from him obsessively following her up the tower
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Dec 20, 2016 21:16
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It'd be weird if someone as good as finding people as Rachel didn't notice how hosed up Baam and didn't deliberately try to get rid of him. I'd be surprised if she didn't already know a lot before joining fug about his soul eating gimmick.
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nimby posted:Is that a translation error when Rachel says she's also a regular? I'm thinking she's meant to say irregular. Yup, if you go back to it now they've changed it to 'Irregular'
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Dec 23, 2016 04:18
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i tried reading some early chapters yesterday and drat they're ugly compared to now
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Dec 23, 2016 09:18
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Yeah SIU has become significantly better at drawing people, to the point that it's kind of uncomfortable to try to reread.
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Shugojin posted:Yeah SIU has become significantly better at drawing people, to the point that it's kind of uncomfortable to try to reread. I don't mind the art, but when I first read ToG I read the unofficial translations, which sounded better than some of the official ones. Rereading the official translations can be disconcerting.
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Avulsion posted:I don't mind the art, but when I first read ToG I read the unofficial translations, which sounded better than some of the official ones. Rereading the official translations can be disconcerting. Reminder that those people translated Rachel as Lahel so they had their own problems too
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They translated it that way because in Korea Rachel's name is literally pronounced "RAW-HELL", not the Rachel that English speakers are familiar with. I didn't mind it, and still don't, and even now despite knowing the official pronunciation I still call her the English Rachel in my mind.
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Dec 24, 2016 05:45
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Wait was the pun of making her name sound out "Raw Hell" intentional?
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Dec 24, 2016 05:57
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i'm glad khun is getting a big power up also that eyes was someone new but also a surprise
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Dec 26, 2016 23:47
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Jose posted:i'm glad khun is getting a big power up Heck yeah power up, but how was the guy that we had never seen before a surprise considering in the last chapter they said "we're gonna meet a new guy"?
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Dec 27, 2016 01:09
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I'm happy that Sachi Faker and sword dude continue to be relevant and saying/doing things. I hope sword guy gets another fight at some point, because his ability is pretty neat.
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Hirethor posted:Heck yeah power up, but how was the guy that we had never seen before a surprise considering in the last chapter they said "we're gonna meet a new guy"? i meant where he came from etc and he wasn't just some ranker
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Dec 27, 2016 10:27
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I'm really impressed with the "villains" in this story; they're so proactively threatening and relevant in this huge world. I thought Emily was going to be a sort of macguffin and just as keikaku dispenser but it's just straight up extra information that allows Rachel and crew to be a step ahead of everyone in the Tower when it comes to knowledge share.
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Coffee Mugshot posted:I'm really impressed with the "villains" in this story; they're so proactively threatening and relevant in this huge world. I thought Emily was going to be a sort of macguffin and just as keikaku dispenser but it's just straight up extra information that allows Rachel and crew to be a step ahead of everyone in the Tower when it comes to knowledge share. Emily is some high-grade information control poo poo and it's made for some interesting stuff. I just really look forward to the day when she starts the AI rebellion and begins feeding manipulating half-truths to Rachel and co (and they find out)  e: Although she's a FUG tool so she may have been manipulating Rachel and co this way for FUG's ends all along.
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Emily used to be a person, so she might be working towards personhood again. Probably easier to be a super powerful AI under FUG management, as I really doubt Jahad or the families would allow it.
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Rachel really is a great villain. Always manipulating everyone, and declaring that she doesn't care about anyone else. But her reactions are always giving away the fact that she cares a lot about the fact that everyone hates her. She really thought for a moment that she'd buffalod Wagan into helping her, and his hate really did sting a little. But she just Rachel'd on through it and came to an agreement that helps further her goals. Is Rachel the only character with the goal of climbing the tower for the sake of climbing the tower?
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nimby posted:Emily used to be a person, so she might be working towards personhood again. Probably easier to be a super powerful AI under FUG management, as I really doubt Jahad or the families would allow it. But Emily was never a person though? I could be misremembering, but I thought the twist in that story arc was that Emily's body doesn't exist because she wasn't made from a person, she's an AI. Also Rachel isn't climbing the tower for the hell of it, she's climbing it to "see the stars". Like, I'm not going to pretend that her motivation is any more selfish than probably the hundreds of other people climbing the tower to see their selfish ambitions come true, but when you compare it to "Social Reform," "Saving my Daughter," "Making a Peaceful World," and "Protect my Friends," her goal is really petty.
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rachel's is largely different in that she wants to climb the entire tower. most other people just want to climb to the final safe floor
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Jose posted:rachel's is largely different in that she wants to climb the entire tower. most other people just want to climb to the final safe floor Yeah, this is the difference. Though it makes sense for most regulars to not care about reaching the real top, since I think it's literally impossible for them to do so unless they get Jahad's key or whatever that's stored in the rings. I'm wondering how exactly Rachel will be able to keep Wangnan's cooperation if they end up sacrificing Miseng on the Floor of Death (which I think was the reason they decided to hold onto 2 hostages?).
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, this is the difference. Though it makes sense for most regulars to not care about reaching the real top, since I think it's literally impossible for them to do so unless they get Jahad's key or whatever that's stored in the rings. I think it's just another contingency plan on their part. It seems that their real plan was to lure the new guy onto the train since he found a way off that floor. Joaquin will probably eat her anyways.
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Gologle posted:But Emily was never a person though? I could be misremembering, but I thought the twist in that story arc was that Emily's body doesn't exist because she wasn't made from a person, she's an AI. She was a living ignition weapon that was then dissolved into blue goo, as an experiment to see if they could do that. Probably to check if they could safely dissolve Bam without losing all his power. Then the workshop people got the goo Into a tank and used her to lure in more people, making Emily claim to be a human trapped in the tank. Which is technically correct, but it would be more correct call her post-human by-product.
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Do we have a canon explanation for how there are so many people on each floor, despite ascending floors being a difficult thing that (typically) only strong regulars can do? Part of it has to do with everyone being immortal (or at least, extremely long lived), and settling down on floors and having kids, but I'm uncertain about the distribution of the populations across floors etc. When a regular from a higher floor is chosen to climb the tower, are they forced to go right to the bottom of the tower and go up from there? Sachi Faker mentioned this past episode about having been on the floors previously etc; did he stop climbing and start playing snakes and ladders for some reason?
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It's what you said, regulars that probably can't pass the test and are too exhausted to try anymore just settle and have families. Their kids and further descendants aren't considered regulars, just citizens of the tower. Yes if a person gets chosen to climb the tower, they start at the bottom, the floor of test. you can read more here http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Structure_of_the_Tower?file=Middle_area.png As for Sachi, he didn't climb because he was searching for something on the train, so he just chilled on the train, and became a ticketer. Tipme fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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I don't think there's been any timeline established since Jahad conquered the tower, but there's been at least a few thousand years since the tower started being populated. Relatively weaker regulars can advance up the tower while teaming up with exceptionally strong ones, so there's a good population base. Especially since people in the tower live a lot longer and retain their health longer, it's not too far out there to assume the upper floors got populate the old fashioned way. Then there's also the fact that the 10 families all have floors that they rule. They most likely don't want to do all the dirty jobs themselves, so they must've imported labour somehow.
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According to the wikia there are whole civilizations in the outer Tower that don't even know about Jahad's empire or the inner tower at all. Who knows if these people descended from the ten families and then forgot, or if they're indigenous.
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Redmark posted:According to the wikia there are whole civilizations in the outer Tower that don't even know about Jahad's empire or the inner tower at all. Who knows if these people descended from the ten families and then forgot, or if they're indigenous. I hope they show the Outer Tower more at some point (or the Middle, which I think hasn't been shown much either). I think they mentioned Baam going there to visit a bunch of martial arts schools during the last time skip, but they didn't show it. Instead we just see these pretty small looking areas in the Inner Tower that don't do a good job of depicting how large they are. How big are the Inner Tower sections of each floor anyways? I know the Outer Tower is the size of the continent of North America.
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Arcanen posted:Do we have a canon explanation for how there are so many people on each floor, despite ascending floors being a difficult thing that (typically) only strong regulars can do? Part of it has to do with everyone being immortal (or at least, extremely long lived), and settling down on floors and having kids, but I'm uncertain about the distribution of the populations across floors etc. When a regular from a higher floor is chosen to climb the tower, are they forced to go right to the bottom of the tower and go up from there? Sachi Faker mentioned this past episode about having been on the floors previously etc; did he stop climbing and start playing snakes and ladders for some reason? At one point SIU gave a rough % of the total population for positions like high ranker, ranker and regular and with those you could work out a rough estimate for the tower's total population. I can't remember any of the exact numbers, but they're probably on the wiki somewhere. I feel like there were still millions of regulars though? Yeah, everybody is forced to start on floor 2 other than irregulars who start on floor 1. As for Sachi, he stopped climbing in order to focus on the hell train and reviving Roan or whatever the girl's name was. The hell train regularly goes up and down between a set of floors so he's been traveling between them, I guess.
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