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Daler Mehndi posted:Running into a shonen protagonist is the worst. I've actually become significantly less interested in VS for the immediate future because these kinds of characters are tedious as gently caress. If we're lucky he's going to have an unfortunate end very soon.
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Aint he just another murderer in a world of them? I guess he's a little livelier
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Aint he just another murderer in a world of them? I guess he's a little livelier I dunno he just pushes some dangerous shonen trope buttons for me; Rediculously skinny build Prettyboy as gently caress Wears no armour and makes a point out of how dumb and bad wearing armour is because it makes you "slow" Singlemindedly wants to fight ~strong people~ (and yeah I know Thorkell does this as well but he at least looks like a crazy pissed off viking and is entertaining) Part of the fun of VS is that it at least has a decent sense of verisimilitude and this guy feels like a character from a different series who came over explicitly to poo poo on it.
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RabidWeasel posted:Part of the fun of VS is that it at least has a decent sense of verisimilitude 
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Dec 26, 2016 06:36
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remember the 4-5 volumes Thorfin spent as a ninja who dual wields daggers
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I thought vikings actually did that though. Well, probably not that dramatic and photogenically, but the general idea.
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GodFish posted:I thought vikings actually did that though. Well, probably not that dramatic and photogenically, but the general idea. Me too?
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Dec 26, 2016 07:29
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Yes, that's a thing vikings really did. Turns out moving longboats across the country is actually easiest if you go in a straight line with 16 people carrying it. Plus it's sometimes faster to switch rivers rather than going to the place where the river flows and then walking the rest of the way.
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Dec 26, 2016 07:46
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Within the world of Vinland Saga, there simply exist men with a preternatural talent for killing, like Thors, or Thorfinn, or Thorkell, or even Askeladd. This is a class of character seen in other stories, like Leone or Kurosawa films. In that case, Garm is a dark mirror of Thorfinn, who ever went any kind of emotional journey to rise above this calling.
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Dec 26, 2016 08:51
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Or maybe he did and his calling is killing? Kinda seems like thorkell did that too.
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Dec 26, 2016 09:06
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Not just in VS, dudes who can kill scores of other dudes just because they were born under an auspicious moon or whatever are super common everywhere in the old tales
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Dec 26, 2016 09:39
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To be honest, fighting and killing are skills like any other, you can get better with training and practice but there have always been people who are naturally gifted at it.
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New Otoyomegatari - http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Otoyomegatari/Vol-009-Ch-061--What-Comes-Next?id=340489 In which Pariya masters Unlimited Blush Works and makes a new friend, and Grandma is the coolest wing-woman.
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JosephWongKS posted:New Otoyomegatari  
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Dec 27, 2016 07:04
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 Got my hopes up for more Shirley. I ... don't think we'll ever see more.
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Dec 27, 2016 07:11
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Pariya is powerful. Three months though......
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Angry Lobster posted:To be honest, fighting and killing are skills like any other, you can get better with training and practice but there have always been people who are naturally gifted at it. Yeah, though not to nearly the sort of extreme we see in myths, fiction, etc. There's a strict limit to a person's reflexes, etc and it's doubtful that anyone can reach the point where they can consistently and easily dispatch whole groups of trained opponents (heck, groups of untrained opponents probably wouldn't even work).
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Vinland Saga's depiction of combat has been larger than life since the very beginning, though that's something that wasn't very apparent during the farmer/slave arc.
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Rereading Vagabond I gotta say the farming arc is my favorite and imo even better than the one in Vinland. I've never seen a manga convey the dreary starvation of peasant life so poignantly and effectively
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, though not to nearly the sort of extreme we see in myths, fiction, etc. There's a strict limit to a person's reflexes, etc and it's doubtful that anyone can reach the point where they can consistently and easily dispatch whole groups of trained opponents (heck, groups of untrained opponents probably wouldn't even work). Indeed, it's clearly an artistic license to make the characters appear as more heroic/legendary. Especially Thorkell, he is a loving beast. On the other hand, now that I think about it, in this manga combat is only realistic (somewhat) when it only involves random nameless mooks on both sides.
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so vinland saga is basically dota.
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[ALLIES] Askeladd: who the gently caress fed Troll
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Dec 28, 2016 20:12
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Thorkell's feats in particular feel like something out of folklore or a tall tale to me. "Let me tell ya. That man Thorkell was so strong that one time..."
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Dec 28, 2016 20:29
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Just like how "Thorkell the Tall" doesn't mean he was actually 8 feet tall.
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Dec 28, 2016 21:47
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Thorkell had a 30-40 year military career and people from Scandanavia are generally pretty tall so his epithet must mean something. I think he was pretty exemplary IRL too.
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Dec 28, 2016 21:59
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Today I learned Thorkell was a real person. As, apparently, was our "Canute", really Cnut.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Today I learned Thorkell was a real person. they even reenacted the famous story of cnut/canute going down to the sea and commanding the tide to stop crashing on the shore
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Today I learned Thorkell was a real person. Thorfinn Karlsefni was a real person too
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Dec 28, 2016 23:29
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The Vikings were a real historical group.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The Vikings were a real historical group. Nuh-uh 
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historical theorists even postulate the existence of a land mass known as "england" that existed for centuries in the middle ages, but no certifiable proof has ever been found
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Dec 28, 2016 23:44
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i found out just now that this manga is a total loving ripoff of these things called the vinland sagas
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I only follow historically accurate series like Helck or Dragonball.
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Begemot posted:Just like how "Thorkell the Tall" doesn't mean he was actually 8 feet tall. It's a reverse Ivar the Boneless.
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I'm pretty sure the Vikings were shorter than modern Europeans. Thorkell the Tall could have been 6'2". Not an edit: A quick googling reveals they were about the same height as modern europeans (5'10"). quote:"The average height of men in Norway in the Viking era, based on skeletal measurements, was 176cm (5ft 9in), with a range from 170-181cm (5ft 7in to 5ft 11in), which was taller than other Europeans during this time." So, maybe Thorkell was the size of Hafthor Bjornsson.
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I mean, if I saw The Mountain run someone through with a sword, I'd write about it.
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People here should read Egil's Saga if they want to see some of the extremes a saga protagonist (man, typing that feels weird) can get up to.
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Say Nothing posted:I'm pretty sure the Vikings were shorter than modern Europeans. Thorkell the Tall could have been 6'2". I generally put him roughly in the same height bracket as Grutte Pier, who was provably 7'1". People absolutely could be that height back then, it was just rarer than it is today.
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Most historical true giants probably suffered from acromegaly or something... there was a roman emperor who probably had that. And many known historical figures were nobles, who usually had superior diets than their contemporaries... which probably affects height more than anything else.
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Last volume of Wolfsmund is here. I guess all the stupid crap on the first volume was redeemed by this one where the swiss kill a hundred billion german knights
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