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docbeard posted:Hmm. Bernie as a cool and good advocate for justice with a few really dipshit followers this is my Real Opinion on mr. sanders which i'm sure everyone desperately wanted to know
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the only moral salt is logikv9's salt
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Just before three-thirty on the east coast, time for an update: have you considered taking bernie sanders into your life
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Yinlock posted:this is my Real Opinion on mr. sanders which i'm sure everyone desperately wanted to know
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the true berniebro was inside my heart all along
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i wasn't surprise that bernie lost the primary, i am not confident that he would have won the general, and even if he had i question if the dems in congress would have worked with him to accomplish much, let alone the GOP
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docbeard posted:Hmm. Bernie as a cool and good advocate for justice with a few really dipshit followers, some of whom turn against him when things get hot and he turns out not to be the precise sort of savior they were looking for? Checks out! Well Jesus did win and Bernie was crucified but like any badass socialist messiah he came back from the dead to be the spiritual leader of a powerfull movement.and im guessing the romans in this analogy are the Hilary suporters or something
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"actually, hrrm, exercise and dieting is extremely bourgoise" /  this motherfucker looks like the goon from the whomp comic irl Fallen Hamprince has issued a correction as of 13:33 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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deadgoon posted:i wasn't surprise that bernie lost the primary, i am not confident that he would have won the general, and even if he had i question if the dems in congress would have worked with him to accomplish much, let alone the GOP had he somehow managed to win the primary it would've meant the clinton wing and therefore the dnc's organization was even worse than it turned out to be in the general which in turn likely would've meant their ability to do gotv for sanders would've been dogshit, and that's with being generous and assuming the party would've actively supported him on the other hand how much that would've mattered is up for debate since he likely would've kept at least some of the otherwise reliable dem votes trump poached, and maybe have attracted otherwise disinterested voters The Muppets On PCP has issued a correction as of 13:40 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:which in turn likely would've meant their ability to do gotv for sanders would've been dogshit, and that's with being generous and assuming the party would've actively supported him gotv is irrelevant at the national general level. Obama didn't beat his polls because he had some secret weapon; he won because polls were using lovely lv screens that excluded his energized base of low-propensity black voters. there's not a huge portion of the population who will tell a pollster for whom they're voting, pass the screen, and then not show up to vote unless they get four phone calls three door knocks and six texts to remind them. gotv is a pretty good tool in the primaries tho, where you can laser-focus soft delegates and where you have a lot more room to grow the primary voter base as well as remind them when and where the primary is and when and where to register for it
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docbeard posted:Hmm. Bernie as a cool and good advocate for justice with a few really dipshit followers, some of whom turn against him when things get hot and he turns out not to be the precise sort of savior they were looking for? Checks out! Hey man, did you ever notice that Jesus Christ and Bernie Sanders were BOTH JEWS! Have you heard the good word about Bernie Sanders?
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Thoguh posted:
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theflyingexecutive posted:gotv is irrelevant at the national general level. whatever you say, mr. mook
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hillary had decent-to-good gotv, trump had 0 gotv (excluding hearts) she underperformed her polls in almost every state with gotv ops
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theflyingexecutive posted:hillary had decent-to-good gotv, trump had 0 gotv (excluding hearts) her turnout operation was a complete joke
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theflyingexecutive posted:hillary had decent-to-good gotv, trump had 0 gotv (excluding hearts) then why didn't she get out the vote
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Ace of Baes posted:I hope one of Keith's first acts as DNC Chair is to force the state parties to make all primaries completely open. somewhat ironic that peopleare like pro-open primaries while extolling the DSA, which is so closed that you get kicked out for wrongthink (which is a good thing)
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2017 exmarx posted:then why didn't she get out the vote She did, but it turned out that you need to get out more than just the one vote. Easy mistake to make.
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People do it for you if they like you. I texted a billion people then called and knocked a few hundo more, nobody really cared
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:somewhat ironic that peopleare like pro-open primaries while extolling the DSA, which is so closed that you get kicked out for wrongthink (which is a good thing) they're only hyping the dsa because it's the only political organization less relevant than the democratic party
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Also in non drunkposting news I assume that the mods get more complaints from Bernie posters but that's probably because Trumpers don't really post in here and a lot of the Hillary supporters have remained insufferable but this is a D&D subforum so for whatever reason being a smug shithead is encouraged and rewarded.
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theflyingexecutive posted:People do it for you if they like you. I texted a billion people then called and knocked a few hundo more, nobody really cared you need both policies people can get excited about and a strong gotv game, and clinton had neither
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Thoguh posted:Also in non drunkposting news I assume that the mods get more complaints from Bernie posters but that's probably because Trumpers don't really post in here and a lot of the Hillary supporters have remained insufferable but this is a D&D subforum so for whatever reason being a smug shithead is encouraged and rewarded. Wait so they're encouraging and rewarding Hillpeople?
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LmaoTheKid posted:Wait so they're encouraging and rewarding Hillpeople? No I think he meant the Bernie people
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our true lord and Savior is Donald Jesus Trump do not speak of false prophets
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theflyingexecutive posted:People do it for you if they like you. I texted a billion people then called and knocked a few hundo more, nobody really cared
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fits my needs posted:No I think he meant the Bernie people Your honor, I submit exhibit A.
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i think part of the problem is the sort of 'death' of politics, or rather its transformation from a conflict of ideas into a kind of game played by people with money there's no vision to it, it's just endless focus groups, 'GOTV' campaigns, marketing ploys and brand management it's the commodification of politics
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rudatron posted:i think part of the problem is the sort of 'death' of politics, or rather its transformation from a conflict of ideas into a kind of game played by people with money i'm pretty sure like a day after the first democracy was established there was someone trying to buy someone else's vote for a shiny rock or w/e
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When I find myself in times of trouble Mother Mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom "Bernie would've won"
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:somewhat ironic that peopleare like pro-open primaries while extolling the DSA, which is so closed that you get kicked out for wrongthink (which is a good thing) I don't support "open" primaries, but I do support "register as you enter" style primaries. But then again I have some decidedly unpopular views on ideal democratic processes like prefering specific caucus variants over doing primaries at all.
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Condiv posted:the father No women of color or transpeople? 
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fits my needs posted:No I think he meant the Bernie people  you do this every time. every time. rudatron posted:i think part of the problem is the sort of 'death' of politics, or rather its transformation from a conflict of ideas into a kind of game played by people with money campaigning on a national scale has always been about branding. We are consumerists. It's just become so egregiously and blatantly obvious these days. Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 17:56 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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GlyphGryph posted:I don't support "open" primaries, but I do support "register as you enter" style primaries. I mean you don't even register as a member of the party with the party itself but rather with the state. Weird system we got.
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Majorian posted:No women of color or transpeople? Hellen Keller and MLK and Eugene Debsas the Ghosts Of Socialism past, present, future
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