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baquerd posted:No biotruths here, just the regular truths. I don't believe anyone of any "race" is categorically better than any other human, I only mean to mock those who believe the color of our skin means something absent ignorant societal judgements. I am not ignoring racial divides, merely pointing out that such divides are not helpful, and a simple consideration of relative student accomplishment (via typical standardized testing or similar) is perhaps the best metric of where we should be spending public funds (those furthest away from standards typically have the most to gain). "I don't care if you're white or black or purple!" is useless because it severely misunderstands the reason why racism exists. Do you think people literally hate skin color and nothing else? That their hang-up is about melanin content? They hate the race. They believe that the different races of humanity are sufficiently different from one another on a physical and mental level that they don't function the same when put in the same environment. "Purple people" don't exist, so of course you can talk about how you don't care if someone's purple. The point is that the skin color doesn't matter to them, just the perception that they're different in every other way. baquerd posted:I'm done here on this topic as Samizdata suggests, but I would be very happy to continue this discussion through PM's with anyone currently involved (or not involved) in this discussion. I want to learn, but I haven't heard any logical arguments or information! That's because your brain is rejecting anything that isn't coldly logical and deciding that subtleties can't exist if you can't perceive them. If you're going to admit to being autistic, at least acknowledge that your brain isn't parsing things the same as other people's and that maybe the problem with understanding is you.
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baquerd posted:I want to learn, but I haven't heard any logical arguments or information! Now THAT'S some poo poo that didn't happen. *everyone laughs, freeze frame, roll credits*
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Dec 27, 2016 21:01
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Why do people always qualify statements like this with ridiculous colors? It's like the technicolor version of "I'm not racist, but..." 
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chitoryu12 posted:That's because your brain is rejecting anything that isn't coldly logical and deciding that subtleties can't exist if you can't perceive them. If you're going to admit to being autistic, at least acknowledge that your brain isn't parsing things the same as other people's and that maybe the problem with understanding is you. Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people. Whether this is a helpful viewpoint in societal progress or not, it is mine, and I will not apologize for it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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So is that like a picture of a monitor with that on the screen or did someone just shop the original to try and make it look like a lovely phone pick and less photoshopped? Also it being rotated slightly.
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Dec 27, 2016 21:22
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baquerd posted:Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people. you're entitled to your lovely opinions but you're not entitled to wave them around in public without being called a shithead, hth
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Man I always figured having an autistic kid would be hard for so many reasons but one of them I never thought about is that they'd be so autistic they wouldn't be able to understand racism and then spend all day arguing about it on the internet. Real eye opening stuff here.
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Garrand posted:So is that like a picture of a monitor with that on the screen or did someone just shop the original to try and make it look like a lovely phone pick and less photoshopped? Also it being rotated slightly. The poster is from a Cracked Photoshop contest to create counterproductive PSAs. Someone took the original and further shopped it for the reasons you mentioned.
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baquerd posted:Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people.  How long can a red text be?
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baquerd posted:Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people. The problem is that it's not just an "unfavorable" viewpoint: it's outright wrong. Most people aren't rational actors, behaving purely with cold logic. If you try to use logic to argue against a racist, you'll probably lose because their beliefs aren't logical. They may even think they're the logical ones and use logical fallacies that they think are brilliant to justify it. Smart people are often the ones who fall hardest for scams because once they believe it, they're very good at convincing themselves that they're not morons for believing it. So yeah, the problem here is you. I'm sorry if that's a harsh way to put it, but the problem is that you're literally not thinking the same way as the people you're trying to talk about and you're dismissing other people's explanations as being illogical. Not everyone is Data, and there's a good reason for that.
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Everybody thinks logically. The problem is nobody can agree on fundamental axioms. And people are reasoning from multiple self-contradictory beliefs which they treat as fundamental axioms. Yes, even you. Back to the STDH 
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And that doctor was Albert Einstein, a doctor in physics and most deffo not an MD you should actually trust.
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"Let's go through all these studies showing no correlation between weight and health" (Flips through book that is very obviously nothing but blank pages while making quizzical noises and staring wide eyed at patient and also shrugs confusedly like how Jon Stewart did all the time back on the daily show)
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oldpainless posted:"Let's go through all these studies showing no correlation between weight and health" The missing variable is height! Edit: I mean race.
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oldpainless posted:"Let's go through all these studies showing no correlation between weight and health" More like oldpeerless. Did I do it right?
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baquerd posted:Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people. I get you think you are really smart and "logical" and stuff, but you aren't. It's really easy to dismiss someone you don't agree with by calling them "morons", shuts the discussion down real easy!
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Also I'm surprised it didn't occur to such a Grandmaster of Logic such as yourself, that in a situation like this where it's clear you don't know what the gently caress you're talking about, the most LOGIC! thing to do would actually be to shut the gently caress up about it. You have a literal brain deficiency and still have the loving gall to call other people names? Lmao.
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My grandfather ran a camp for disadvantaged boys from NYC. Tough kids, most from troubled families or who had been in trouble themselves. But they all had one thing in common, no matter their race or ethnicity: Once they set foot on something other than concrete, and were surrounded by trees instead of buildings, they all changed their attitudes, going from rough and mouthy to quiet and a bit scared. They'd spend a week or so, getting fed decent food, learning, the usual camp things, before going home. He said it helped a few of them turn their lives around. Granted, this was the 40s, but I suspect some of the basics still hold true. In any event, Ghetto Hikes is full of poo poo.
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baquerd posted:Regretfully, I do have to respond to this - it's absolutely possible! If I can't make a logical connection to objective truth for a certain statement, that statement is not true to me, and I don't understand (in many cases) the vast majority of people telling me otherwise. I want the world to be logical, and I disregard those who say the truth is that the world is not logical. On some level, I understand that many people do not behave this way, but I tend to dismiss them as morons, even people who are otherwise accomplished and intelligent. On yet another level, I understand that this is not a favorable viewpoint for my ideas, but I can't help myself when espousing logical viewpoints. I refused to "compromise" by letting illogical arguments win, even if those arguments are technically logical based on the overwhelming response of the people. LOTS OF DRIED FROG PILLS (I figure it's worth a shot)
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pc lithman posted:Hey guy, listen. literally everyone i've known who farts on about logic and reason have been completely unreasonable people because despite claiming to be logical they base their opinions on false premises. If you miss that fundamental point then everything you deduce using your logic is going to be a bunch of complete bullshit. Garbage In, Garbage Out to put it in terms a computer person would understand.
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oldpainless posted:"Let's go through all these studies showing no correlation between weight and health" Diets don't work, exercise is too hard, I'm in a food desert, etc
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Slime posted:literally everyone i've known who farts on about logic and reason have been completely unreasonable people because despite claiming to be logical they base their opinions on false premises. Yeah, and the very first false premise they wrap themselves around is the idea that talking about logic and reason means they are logical and reasonable. They take a tool and turn it into a totem, and then are surprised when nobody else respects their totem when they wave it in their face. I speak with experience here, because I was one of these goobs in High School, and thankfully I've grown out of it for the most part.
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quote:• My yearbook photo was a picture of some random baby off of Google I photoshopped my 17 year-old self’s head onto. It made it in.
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quote:Was voted Most Unique This is what all true fake bullshit writers really want in their lives
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PARKER LEWIS CAN'T LOSE also he wore no shirt but also wore a dead kennedys t-shirt. are the dead kennedy's like the band people default to in order to appear edgy
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I, too, think I'm smart, edgy and hilarious. Except that I'd probably write into my stdh that other people laughed too or that anyone else besides myself thought I was as great as I'm trying to make myself sound
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Oh my god I remember reading this one before but it still makes me so so mad I really want to punch that nerd.
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Pride"I totally stuck the landing" posted:Last weekend I was frolicking in my parents' pool with eight children and three adults. Being the cool grown-up I am, I was the only one participating in "Diving Board Games" as they are called at the Ray household. Basically, those in the pool challenge the daredevil kids (and one full-grown) to answer a question mid-jump. 
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psutify posted:Pride Are you just pissed there are bible verses in it? Yeah it's reaching for some pats on the back, ok. But is this stdh really different from what you'd hear in church?
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Re: high school kid I can buy that most of those things happened, just not that anyone besides the writer was amused/impressed/entertained. Also, the concept of "sneaking" anything into a school yearbook is hilarious. When has any yearbook had quality control? Antivehicular has a new favorite as of 01:46 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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life is killing me posted:Are you just pissed there are bible verses in it? Yeah it's reaching for some pats on the back, ok. But is this stdh really different from what you'd hear in church? It seemed like a really convuluted way to brag about a sick back flip you landed
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I really liked that one stdh that was just a kid bragging about how his dad beat the poo poo out of someone. My dad is strong too.
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Darth Windu posted:I really liked that one stdh that was just a kid bragging about how his dad beat the poo poo out of someone. My dad is strong too. "My dad can beat up your dad!"
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I'm not surprised that high school smuggo fantasy spawned on Tumblr.
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http://imgur.com/gallery/yi92V Take your pick.
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Fathis Munk posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/yi92V At least a number of these provably happened.
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Fathis Munk posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/yi92V "Linebacker with two amazing dads" is pick of the litter box.
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gschmidl posted:At least a number of these provably happened. The Australian guy saving suicidal people was also a real guy. Unfortunately he died in 2012 at the age of 86, though he saved between 160 and 400 people (the latter is his family's claim) from suicide. There's also this guy at the Golden Gate Bridge and this guy in Japan.
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Antivehicular posted:Re: high school kid I worked at a yearbook publisher and part of my job was to go through pages and pages of yearbooks, on the computer, and flag anything that was wrong like pictures out of place or kids flipping off the camera. It would then go to another department where it would be fixed or they would contact the school to ask about it.
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I'm not saying none of those happened, I'm just saying some of them didn't.
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